Plan to increase GF ticket allocation

[MarkT2]

I'd like to see less MCC seats and more public seats but ultimately it's their ground and they deserve to have as much room as they like.

Not quite. They might like the whole ground but they wouldn't have the game then. There has to be a negotiated position. Given the TV money I'd like to see the AFL effectively buy back seats in a renegotiated contract.

 

[THRILLHO]

The taxpayer funds have paid for next to nothing throughout the history of the ground.

Not that I agree with the premise of the post you're responding to, but who's paying the majority of the upgrade of the GSS? Taxpayers or MCC?

 

[savagelunchbox]

The AFL/MCC members allocation is too high - the AFL types who join the AFL rejecting club membership are a blight on Grand Final day, club members of competing clubs should come first.

The MCC are receiving another $25 mil from the taxpayer this year to improve the facility - the ordinary taxpayer, not the privileged few MCC members. The taxpayer should be demanding a reduction in the MCC seating come Grand Final day. Its not as if the MCC really pay rent on the ground, the fee is returned to them every year by the ground owner the MCG Trust as a grant.

5000 seats from these people returned to the people, the taxpayers, the members of the competing clubs.

The most ignorant, stupid, nonsensical post I've seen in some time.

Kwality has got a point in his 1st paragraph. If an AFL member can't nominate a club in which they support, they don't get an GF ticket. Even if they don't support a specific team, it's not that hard to pick a random team as the team you 'support'. If you play it smart (and don't pick Richmond) you will still see quite a few GF's in your time.

I know they pay a lot for their AFL memberships, but so do club members who sometimes can't afford AFL memberships. Or there are interstate members who don't want to pay the high amount for AFL membership for little return. For example, when i was living in Adelaide an AFL membership was a waste of money. I despise the crows and wouldn't go to one of their games, and Port games are nothing special to go to so the extra i'd be paying would be far to great to warrant upgrading from a club membership to an AFL membership.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Kwality has got a point in his 1st paragraph. If an AFL member can't nominate a club in which they support, they don't get an GF ticket. Even if they don't support a specific team, it's not that hard to pick a random team as the team you 'support'. If you play it smart (and don't pick Richmond) you will still see quite a few GF's in your time.

I know they pay a lot for their AFL memberships, but so do club members who sometimes can't afford AFL memberships. Or there are interstate members who don't want to pay the high amount for AFL membership for little return. For example, when i was living in Adelaide an AFL membership was a waste of money. I despise the crows and wouldn't go to one of their games, and Port games are nothing special to go to so the extra i'd be paying would be far to great to warrant upgrading from a club membership to an AFL membership.

Ummm....

All AFL Members nominate their club. They then count as a member of that club, part of their membership fee goes to the club and they get a club membership pack. They also count as part of the clubs finals ticket allocations in addition to the AFL Membership allocation.

 

[doodlefeatures]

Ummm....

All AFL Members nominate their club. They then count as a member of that club, part of their membership fee goes to the club and they get a club membership pack. They also count as part of the clubs finals ticket allocations in addition to the AFL Membership allocation.

No, they don't, you can choose to be a 'competition member' (or something like that)

 

[Blueboys11]

For the Hawks v Cats game in week one the AFL area was basically sold out and the MCC was 3/4 full - the rest of the ground was half empty, the top deck of the Southern Stand was almost completely empty

I noticed this too. MCC area was nearly full while those 'devoted' club members couldnt even be bothered turning up.

Medallion club members are also entitled to G.F tickets. They pay 5-10K per year of which a large chunk would go to the AFL, so they have earnt it.

At the end of the day if you want to go to a grand final as a club member, you need to reach into your pocket and buy a top membership package and thus help finance the game.

11 game $200 home memberships might be all that some can afford, but the way of the world is money talks, so dont expect to get into the showpiece game of the year over those who have tipped thosands of dollars into it.

 

[Dundalis]

I find it humourous that some are saying MCC members should be getting less room. It's our ground, our house. You don't walk into someone's house as a guest and tell them to stay out of the living room. You take whats given to you. End of.

 

[PortBrillance]

I find it humourous that some are saying MCC members should be getting less room. It's our ground, our house. You don't walk into someone's house as a guest and tell them to stay out of the living room. You take whats given to you. End of.

It's not your home, did you build it yourself?

You're just another member and one day you will die and your membership will go to some other punk kid and they will say the same thing.

MCC members are a bunch of ****s, get rid of them.

 

[Furn]

Another point to consider is how much would the clubs lose if there was a huge allocation to club members.

I have a gold membership which is $200+ more than a GA yet i stand at every game have never even been to my seat. I have it purely for the GF ticket it guarantees. Now if each club got 25k then i wouldn't bother with a gold membership.

Remember too that the clubs get this extra money whether they make it or not. So having only a few gf tickets allows club to sell these expensive memberships

 

[Donakebab]

No, they don't, you can choose to be a 'competition member' (or something like that)

The figure that do not nominate a club would be lucky to be 1%, so the point is still valid.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

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The AFL players are upset at the proposal to reduce their ticket allocation from two, to one each.[/I]

I can't see why players should get a ticket, especially when many don't go. I bought a ticket from a player a few years back, he made a tidy few extra $$$.

Players of competing teams should be given two or three each for family, the other teams should be bad luck.

 

[Blueboys11]

I noticed Carlton have a membership add on option that allows you to gain guaranteed access to a grand final ticket. Its basically a $200 add on fee purely for the right to buy a ticket. No actual other benefit is gained by that $200.

They cap it at $3,000, but in essence they have made $600,000 this year for nothing. Great marketing idea

Im only a restriced MCC member at the moment and have a 6 game Telstra Dome membership with Carlton, so ill be seriously looking at this option over the next 4-5 years as obviously the Blues chances are better chance than what they have been

If worse comes to worse, the money goes to the club anyway....

 

[Chasing the Dream]

I noticed Carlton have a membership add on option that allows you to gain guaranteed access to a grand final ticket. Its basically a $200 add on fee purely for the right to buy a ticket. No actual other benefit is gained by that $200.

They cap it at $3,000, but in essence they have made $600,000 this year for nothing. Great marketing idea

Im only a restriced MCC member at the moment and have a 6 game Telstra Dome membership with Carlton, so ill be seriously looking at this option over the next 4-5 years as obviously the Blues chances are better chance than what they have been

If worse comes to worse, the money goes to the club anyway....

The other great marketing effort is taking $4 or whatever it is from members to go into the ballot for a GF ticket from the last four teams. Fair few $$ there for someone .

 

[doodlefeatures]

The figure that do not nominate a club would be lucky to be 1%, so the point is still valid.

Approx 8000 out of 56000 don't nominate a club according to this table
http://www.aflmembership.com.au/news/latest-news/2011-afl-club-support-numbers/

 

[finders]

I'd like to see less MCC seats and more public seats but ultimately it's their ground and they deserve to have as much room as they like.

Its not THEIR"Ground - the MCG Trust is the authority thats controls the ground and the MCC is the ground manager who sub lets it to the AFL and others.

 

[Kwality]

The most ignorant, stupid, nonsensical post I've seen in some time.

You disagree with me with such a persuasive reasoned argument.

There are 300k odd club members & only competing clubs get a real allocation for members to attend. All members hope to get a seat if their team gets thru to the GF.

I'm not saying no seats for GF day for MCC/AFL members but I'd certainly like to see their allocations reduced, say annually, and the competing clubs members allocation increased.

The Government should tie any taxpayers funds pumped into the MCG include a GF dividend to the ordinary bloke, the taxpayer/club member, thru a reduced seating allocation to MCC/AFL members. No problem with keeping the current areas for every other day of the footy & cricket.

 

[ManWithNoName]

The AFL/MCC members allocation is too high - the AFL types who join the AFL rejecting club membership are a blight on Grand Final day, club members of competing clubs should come first..

Factually incorrect. AFL Members are club members. Part of their fee goes to their club. They have the same right as any club member.

The MCC are receiving another $25 mil from the taxpayer this year to improve the facility - the ordinary taxpayer, not the privileged few MCC members. The taxpayer should be demanding a reduction in the MCC seating come Grand Final day. Its not as if the MCC really pay rent on the ground, the fee is returned to them every year by the ground owner the MCG Trust as a grant.

Are you talking about the Southern Stand redevelopment? If so then that's not the MCC facilities at all. That's the general publics area. And also, the MCC are contributing $30M to redevelop facilities they don't even use.

What bastards.

 

[Blueboys11]

Factually incorrect. AFL Members are club members. Part of their fee goes to their club. They have the same right as any club member.

Are you talking about the Southern Stand redevelopment? If so then that's not the MCC facilities at all. That's the general publics area. And also, the MCC are contributing $30M to redevelop facilities they don't even use.

What bastards.

We should be increasing the MCC allocation if anything to account for that $25M (or roughly $250 per member) that we are sending to the 'outer' to have it renovated!!

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I'm guaranteed one if Essendon ever make it... amazing how that relaxes you and lets you look at the whole situation a bit more clearly.

No real problem with AFL members getting a ticket. It's only ever full members anyway, the waiting list for that is now almost the same as MCC. Some people are just jealous whingers. If you don't like it, join up.

MCC members are just a fact of life at the MCG. The G is the perfect stadium in the perfect location for an event like the GF. If you wanna hold it there then there'll be MCC members there. Always has been, always will be.

Medallion Club are the ones that just totally jumped the queue. But at $5k they're putting in $25m a year which goes a long way toward funding the AFL's new baby at Docklands. People shouldn't worry though, their allocation was quietly taken out of the AFL members, who seem to be public enemy #1 anyway! But yeah... $25m a year... money talks. They won't be getting rid of that little slush fund anytime soon.

People just need to deal with the fact that the major offenders rorting the whole system are their own clubs... pigs at the trough. I'm sure if all the clubs got together and said "Give our 17k tickets to the competing clubs every year and we'll have the benefit of that when we make it" then Andy D and co would have no issue with it. Don't hold your breath, they were angry enough when it got reduced from 1500 to 1000.

 

[Kwality]

Factually incorrect. AFL Members are club members. Part of their fee goes to their club. They have the same right as any club member.

Are you talking about the Southern Stand redevelopment? If so then that's not the MCC facilities at all. That's the general publics area. And also, the MCC are contributing $30M to redevelop facilities they don't even use.

What bastards.

Remember when you chose to pay the AFL not Essendon ?

The MCC are contributing to the upgrade along with the taxpayer, not the AFL.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Remember when you chose to pay the AFL not Essendon ?

The MCC are contributing to the upgrade along with the taxpayer, not the AFL.

Well a) about $150 of my AFL Membership fee goes to Essendon. And b) I have two additional Essendon club memberships. So your holier-than-thou attitude could not possibly look more stupid.

 

[Kwality]

Well a) about $150 of my AFL Membership fee goes to Essendon. And b) I have two additional Essendon club memberships. So your holier-than-thou attitude could not possibly look more stupid.

Its your guilt, guilt for rejecting the Bombers & joining the AFL - I'm not suggesting you checked out the Pies for a better deal (did you? ).

Going back to the main game, more seats for members of the competing clubs at the expense of AFL / MCC members.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Its your guilt, guilt for rejecting the Bombers & joining the AFL - I'm not suggesting you checked out the Pies for a better deal (did you? ).

Going back to the main game, more seats for members of the competing clubs at the expense of AFL / MCC members.

You've clearly got no idea how AFL Membership works do you?

 

[SHAKESPEARE]

You've clearly got no idea how AFL Membership works do you?

Arguing on the Internet is like the special olympics...

 

[ManWithNoName]

Arguing on the Internet is like the special olympics...

Well I'm bored. Plus I occasionally like to educate the children.