Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 10

[Byrons Firen]

Yeah Brissy will be fine. Genuine finals smokey next year, especially if they get Neale.

We'll probably fill their rear vision mirrors.

 

[Grave Danger]

Ditts on MMM stating no priority picks for GC or Carlton, instead both clubs will get priority access to 3 state league players ahead of the draft.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-24/afl-gives-blues-suns-special-access-to-state-league-players


If the AFL think that this form of assistance is appropriate then Carlton and Suns should have to take these players on, NOT be able to trade them for draft picks

 

[OneGreatClub]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-24/afl-gives-blues-suns-special-access-to-state-league-players


If the AFL think that this form of assistance is appropriate then Carlton and Suns should have to take these players on, NOT be able to trade them for draft picks

Yes the trading for picks bit I don’t like. Both clubs have had heaps of picks in previous drafts to get young players in. Surely some more mature players for free is of more benefit.

 

[LFC2010]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-24/afl-gives-blues-suns-special-access-to-state-league-players


If the AFL think that this form of assistance is appropriate then Carlton and Suns should have to take these players on, NOT be able to trade them for draft picks

M Grigg to Carlton confirmed.

 

[mic59]

Yes the trading for picks bit I don’t like. Both clubs have had heaps of picks in previous drafts to get young players in. Surely some more mature players for free is of more benefit.

Yes, they've been fooled by what GWS did initially when they traded players for draft picks. The difference was they already had a huge access to players and early draft picks and knew they would be non-competitive for 2 or 3 years. So extra picks made sense in setting up a totally new team as the amount of talent they could get would gel into a top team in a few years. Carlton and GCS need help with their current list and that will come only with ready-made players and development.

 

[240volt]

The AFL/VFL are desperately trying to revive Carlton to there former glory days.
Problem is Carlton only had success when they could poach players from interstate clubs on the cheap.
They deserve bugger all.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

 

[OneGreatClub]

Yes!!!!

 

[chiwigi]

Yeah, thought they weren’t going to ask.

I used to like them, but they are doing all the shit I hate a club to do.

 

[Grave Danger]

Ha ha - that's funny. For ages Carlton were saying "we don't want no handouts!"; everyone else in the industry was telling them "you need help, you must ask for a PP"; AFL says "all they have to do is ask"; finally Carlton say "oh alright, gis a pick then"; AFL says "nope!"

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

So it Carlton 1, GC 2+3, suck it up crowies no McGovern for Lukosius type trade with Carlton.

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[Alyx]

 

[Ishikawa]

I still dont reckon people have picked up on Ch 7 dumped Saturday arvo AFL because it doesn't rate and replaced that with local league footy.

In the 2017-22 TV deal Ch 7 cover 77 home and away games a year not 88 like they did in the 2007-11 deal and 2012-16 deal.

Ch 7 produce the Friday night game, a Saturday night game and the Sunday 3.20pm EST game, 22 editions of each of these 3 time slots for the home and away season. They also produce Easter Monday + ANZAC day + Queens Birthday holiday games and the scheduled 8 Thursday night games. That gives them 77 games.

In WA, SA, NSW and Qld, if their home state teams play Saturday arvos, that is a Fox Footy produced game which under the AFL TV agreement says have to be shown on free TV in their home state, but as we saw this year, a few are shown in delay and the rest live.

Koch and Cos Cardone - who is (Eddie) McGuire Media's CEO worked out the deal between Ch 7 and SANFL as part of allowing Port to reunify at the end of 2013 and let the crows enter a team into SANFL. In 2014 covering the SANFL, Ch 7 found the ratings were so good the whole of the 7 Network looked at the next TV deal and for the 2015 season they decided to cover the WAFL, the VFL and the Rugby Union Sydney Shute Shield comp.

The 2017-22 AFL TV rights deal was announced in August 2015 so given these things take about a year to negotiate, 7 obviously made the decision to kick off Saturday arvo AFL broadcast games from their schedule, after the 2014 SANFL experience - where the SANFL ratings were as good as some Saturday arvo AFL games for a few games, and they stayed with local comp sports for that low rating Saturday arvo time slot.

Ok they have to juggle Saturday local vs compulsory Saturday arvo home state AFL games and use 7mate or broadcast 5-7 of the 18 games on a Sunday, but it works well.

IIRC for 2014 season, Koch+Cardone+SANFL had to raise $1m of sponsorship/advertising to cover the 7 production costs for the whole SANFL season. Over the 2017-22 TV deal period for which the TV rights component is a $2.208bil of the total $2.5bil media rights deal, it probably would have cost 7 Network $20m a year for just the rights to produce and broadcast 22 Saturday arvo games. Then there are the production costs on top of that, probably $500k+ a game given you have to travel all round the country.

So if the 4 local comps cost $1m each to produce, even if its $2m each, and as there are no TV rights costs, and the leagues have to help find the sponsors to advertise during the broadcast, and the ratings aren't that much less than the AFL game in that timeslot, then its a no brainer for 7 to get behind it and promote it as hard as they can, because if they can crank up advertising rates then they get the cream from any advertising sales profits after covering production costs.

At the ABC they had a decade plus long of cuts to their budget and centralizing so much production into Sydney HQ in Ultimo and a smaller but still significant chunk of production and management $$$ in Melbourne. So every year the regional leagues were under threat that the ABC wouldn't cover their league as the ABC Sydney management team wanted to cut "unnecessary costs."

The QRL/Queensland Cup finally got pissed off with it and left the ABC for Ch 9 at the end of 2011 season. So given ABC HQ's attitude there wasn't a lot of upside for the local ABC's to crank up production or local leagues. They couldn't get a commercial return from sponsorship to cover production costs or make a profit from growing the coverage.

There is plenty of financial incentive for 7 to keep the local leagues coverage going strong. And they have been smart enough to so. Plus in WA, 7 Perth have Dennis Cometti calling the game - the best broadcaster in the game's history, helps with the quality and he would make sure that production standards don't drop.

Yeah while I like many get caught up in the nostalgia of hoping for more Saturday afternoon footy, the reality is that even back then I would rarely be able to watch an entire game.

Commetti has been outstanding for the profile of the WAFL, regularly plugs it in his news columns. State league footy can find itself in no-mans land not being as elite nor as accessable competition as the AFL and doesn't quite possess the charm/connection of an amateur or country club. Kind of like domestic cricket though, it's health and wellbeing is pretty crucial function to the sport in the overall scheme of things.

 

[Doctor Feel]

#heritageshitpost

 

[LFC2010]

LOL, not so funny when a rumour starts up about a crows player is it!!!.

 

[Magus]

Is Bad Couch really looking like getting out? Would be pretty rude. They've been very patient with him.

 

[tribey]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-24/afl-gives-blues-suns-special-access-to-state-league-players

If the AFL think that this form of assistance is appropriate then Carlton and Suns should have to take these players on, NOT be able to trade them for draft picks

Gee, this would've been handy in order to snaffle Simon Phillips for free, rather than trade our Krakouer compensation for him.

 

[dav3]

Is Bad Couch really looking like getting out? Would be pretty rude. They've been very patient with him.

Probably not, unless he's on the injury mismanagement bandwagon with McGovern. Given how close the Crouch brothers are I hope it's true

 

[Doctor Feel]

Gee, this would've been handy in order to snaffle Simon Phillips for free, rather than trade our Krakouer compensation for him.

*shudder*

 

[Magus]

Probably not, unless he's on the injury mismanagement bandwagon with McGovern. Given how close the Crouch brothers are I hope it's true

He's also very close with Taylor.

 

[BettyEggsRocket]

He's also very close with Taylor.

His brother definitely is

 

[tribey]

unless he's on the injury mismanagement bandwagon

*sale of the century correct answer chime*

 

[DaTBird187]

Is Bad Couch really looking like getting out? Would be pretty rude. They've been very patient with him.

He has every right to want out. Their fitness staff have cooked him.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Matthew Wright has retired and gone back to Adelaide as a development coach.