Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 5 - Cont. in Part 6

[Andre]

$200k a year, that after manager cut and taxes is $100k. Add in he'd get more endorsements etc, both during and after his career as a Richmond player, then one associated with North and it's not surprising. To shift a big club player, unless they are chasing premiership success needs more of a gap in payments. And North aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[SureBuddy]

18/20

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-01/friday-footy-quiz-how-well-do-you-remember-season-2017

19/20
Only got the last time Richmond were top 4 one wrong.

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

19/20
Only got the last time Richmond were top 4 one wrong.

You can be forgiven for getting that one wrong.

'Richmond' and 'Top 4' can rarely be put in the same sentence.

 

[Forzaport]

Why would you believe media reports that the contracts are a fixed amount for 7 years, ie that there would no variation year to year and there wouldn't be guaranteed and non guaranteed amounts in there along with incentives, bonuses etc? Offered $1.5m a year and the offered $1.3mil a year are simple ball park figures to feed the chooks. The figure of "Dusty gave up over $2million to stay" from Ralph Carr is calculated from the whole 7 years not a simple flat no increase yearly figure.

Do you reckon Carr would have a)said it and the b)media would accurately have reported it, if Carr said the contract is $1.2m in the first year followed by a 7.35% increase to reflect the CBA increase in that year and then a 3.378% in year 3 followed by 2.26% in years 4 and 5 and then CPI in years 6 and 7. The reported yearly figures are simple ballpark figures to feed the chooks.

I'm saying I don't see the $2million that Martin supposedly gave up to stay at Richmond. In other words, I'm calling bullshit on Carr's statement. He was grandstanding IMO.

It really doesn't matter how the contracts are structured between the North and Richmond offers as both clubs would have variability in how they organise their TPPs. I don't doubt that overall North offered more but I do doubt that it was $2million more. If I had to guess, I reckon the difference would have worked out to be under $1million.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I'm saying I don't see the $2million that Martin supposedly gave up to stay at Richmond. In other words, I'm calling bullshit on Carr's statement. He was grandstanding IMO.

It really doesn't matter how the contracts are structured between the North and Richmond offers as both clubs would have variability in how they organise their TPPs. I don't doubt that overall North offered more but I do doubt that it was $2million more. If I had to guess, I reckon the difference would have worked out to be under $1million.

Over $2 mil difference could well mean Richmond absolute guaranteed amount vs North Melbourne maximum all incentives, bonuses and variable amounts paid in full.

 

[Contested Marx]

SPP and Burton tied on the Rising Star after 4 judges votes

 

[OneGreatClub]

SPP and Burton tied on the Rising Star after 4 judges votes

I'm guessing Ling hasn't voted yet then

 

[Contested Marx]

surely it shouldn't take a whole day to name the rising star.

and why do we need 3 separate events for AA, RS, and Brownlow.

How about bye weekend have the AFL Awards night and do all three at once.

Stagger the AA names throughout the Brownlow count, count the rising votes along the progression through the rounds

 

[tribey]

LOL SPP third.

 

[tribey]

McGrath the obvious winner.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[Doctor Feel]

Literally half of that side are not even close to spuds. Some even have decorated careers. "Down on form/retirement age" does not equal spud.

Motlop, Gibson, Scott Thompson, Lindsay Thomas, Cloke, Tippett, Stanton, Monfries and probably even Ballantyne.

Nuffie material that shit.

Daw, Anderson, Vickery. Now those are spuds.

Why do they even have Yarran in there?

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

Josh Gibson has 2 B&Fs in premiership years ffs!

 

[Doctor Feel]

Josh Gibson has 2 B&Fs in premiership years ffs!

Spud.

 

[edgie]

Josh Gibson has 3 flags, 2 of them in premiership years ffs!

FTFY

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Good article on the top 5 goal kickers this year, contrasting their styles and it has an analysis of each player including an individual graphic of all 5 players scoring shots.

http://figuringfooty.com/2017/08/31/the-contrasting-styles-of-the-afls-big-men/

 

[Andre]

Literally half of that side are not even close to spuds. Some even have decorated careers. "Down on form/retirement age" does not equal spud.

Motlop, Gibson, Scott Thompson, Lindsay Thomas, Cloke, Tippett, Stanton, Monfries and probably even Ballantyne.

Nuffie material that shit.

Daw, Anderson, Vickery. Now those are spuds.

Why do they even have Yarran in there?

Also spuds should still have a qualification of at least 5games. It should be spuds that somehow are still picked week after week.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Does Finals experience matter? The Arc mattsea takes a look.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...sics-statistics-does-finals-experience-matter
With September looming, we're about to start hearing a lot more about finals experience. According to conventional wisdom, teams with the most finals under their belts will have a big advantage when it comes to the intense, high-profile September stage. But the stats suggest conventional wisdom is wrong, and fans of clubs without a lot of finals experience shouldn't panic.
..........

DATA: AFLTABLES.COM. THESE FIGURES ARE BASED ON THE TEAMS THAT PLAYED IN ROUND 23. MATT COWGILL

DATA: AFLTABLES.COM. EACH SEASON HAD A TOTAL OF NINE FINALS. EXCLUDES DRAWN FINALS. MATT COWGILL

........
If the conventional wisdom was true, and finals experience played a big role in determining September success, then you'd expect the teams with more experience should win their finals most of the time, but they don't. You'd expect finals experience would be useful in tipping games, or tipping margins, but it's not.

Richmond and Port fans shouldn't worry about their teams' lack of finals experience. The 2016 Bulldogs showed that a young side without finals under their belt could win it all, and the stats say that shouldn't be a surprise - finals experience doesn't determine success in September.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...sics-statistics-does-finals-experience-matter

Missing from Port's Rd 23 team and players with finals experience, Gus 7, Jacko, Broadie, Jonas and Lobbe all 5, White and Hombsch 3 and Young 2.

 

[philthy05]

Does Finals experience matter? The Arc mattsea takes a look.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...sics-statistics-does-finals-experience-matter
With September looming, we're about to start hearing a lot more about finals experience. According to conventional wisdom, teams with the most finals under their belts will have a big advantage when it comes to the intense, high-profile September stage. But the stats suggest conventional wisdom is wrong, and fans of clubs without a lot of finals experience shouldn't panic.
..........

DATA: AFLTABLES.COM. THESE FIGURES ARE BASED ON THE TEAMS THAT PLAYED IN ROUND 23. MATT COWGILL

DATA: AFLTABLES.COM. EACH SEASON HAD A TOTAL OF NINE FINALS. EXCLUDES DRAWN FINALS. MATT COWGILL

........
If the conventional wisdom was true, and finals experience played a big role in determining September success, then you'd expect the teams with more experience should win their finals most of the time, but they don't. You'd expect finals experience would be useful in tipping games, or tipping margins, but it's not.

Richmond and Port fans shouldn't worry about their teams' lack of finals experience. The 2016 Bulldogs showed that a young side without finals under their belt could win it all, and the stats say that shouldn't be a surprise - finals experience doesn't determine success in September.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...sics-statistics-does-finals-experience-matter

Missing from Port's Rd 23 team and players with finals experience, Gus 7, Jacko, Broadie, Jonas and Lobbe all 5, White and Hombsch 3 and Young 2.

Lol. I'm guessing that richmonds 13 players that have played finals is the 13 players who didn't show up to Adelaide oval and got pantsed. I'm not sure I would count that as finals experience.

 

[charcolechaddy]

Yes.

Crows, Giants plan scratch match

Surly we will ask if Krak can play.

 

[Forzaport]

Lol. I'm guessing that richmonds 13 players that have played finals is the 13 players who didn't show up to Adelaide oval and got pantsed. I'm not sure I would count that as finals experience.

Also, our R23 team had 6 first year players, 4 with under 10 games. Oh year, and Lobbe technically counts as a finals player but he won't be selected.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This one is for tribey. 545 games played there.

 

[PowerLil]

Dustin Martin "I'm quite sick of hearing about it really".
Nekminit accepts $50k for announcing it on The Footy Show

 

[edgie]

Subiaco Oval free kick history:

Umpires favour the local team until it becomes an issue of public interest. In an effort to make it look like the they haven't been getting swayed, nothing changes and their interpretations remain the same for consistency.

Adelaide Oval free kick history:

First game - A showdown. Umpires not swayed either way.
Second game - Crows home game. Umps give a few to the Crows.
Third game - Ports. Umpires make more effort to not be swayed by the home crowd like they have been at Subiaco.

 

[El Zorro]

This bye week sucks.