Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 7

[StuMan]

Austin getting his first game for St. Kilda this week.

 

[Peck]

Seems silly until you realise this is a city which already has an Electoral District called Batman.

Melbourne could’ve been Batmania.

If only...

 

[Lagooner]

Melbourne could’ve been Batmania.

If only...

Great name for Doctor Feel’s collection of housemate anecdotes.

 

[PepeSilvia]

From a mate in regards to Emptyhad: View attachment 501617

I don’t get it.

 

[Lagooner]

I don’t get it.

They could’ve at least tried to tie in some tenuous links between the old and new names e.g. Lockett End into the Little Pigs End I dunno just something!

 

[Schulzenfest]

Austin getting his first game for St. Kilda this week.

Meh. I’ve got plenty of time for the other blokes who found new homes last year but the way Austin left still rankles me.

 

[PatientMental]

Austin getting his first game for St. Kilda this week.

Should be interesting to see if he doesn't lose his feet and panic at every opportunity this time.

 

[Forzaport]

Meh. I’ve got plenty of time for the other blokes who found new homes last year but the way Austin left still rankles me.

Doing everything last minute is not a strategy for success and look, St. Kilda is 16th.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

Fcuk off Jake

 

[manureid]

Fcuk off Jake

Can someone tell me, have Carlton been hamstrung in recent years by something to stop them getting better? I am sure the penalties for salary cap rorting was a long time ago now? Even the Crows have been able to overcome draft pick losses to not bottom out like Carlton have for a decade. I dont get why they deserve a priority pick now?

 

[Killer Power]

Fcuk off Jake

How about **** the **** off

 

[dav3]

Can someone tell me, have Carlton been hamstrung in recent years by something to stop them getting better? I am sure the penalties for salary cap rorting was a long time ago now? Even the Crows have been able to overcome draft pick losses to not bottom out like Carlton have for a decade. I dont get why they deserve a priority pick now?

Because the Exers need to top up their talent in a couple of years?

 

[LFC2010]

Fcuk off Jake

You watch them get it as well in a loaded draft.

 

[OneGreatClub]

You watch them get it as well in a loaded draft.

Haven’t they already had one of these priority things in recent years?

 

[LFC2010]

Can someone tell me, have Carlton been hamstrung in recent years by something to stop them getting better? I am sure the penalties for salary cap rorting was a long time ago now? Even the Crows have been able to overcome draft pick losses to not bottom out like Carlton have for a decade. I dont get why they deserve a priority pick now?

Because they're Carlton and they think they deserve everything. Prime Time fixtures being at the top of the list.

 

[_VXV]

The league talks a lot about equalisation but watch the bloosers get a priority in the loaded draft.
Maybe they should get the other 17 presidents to vote on this?

 

[LFC2010]

The league talks a lot about equalisation but watch the bloosers get a priority in the loaded draft.
Maybe they should get the other 17 presidents to vote on this?

Gillon to set up another committee to make the call!.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Fcuk off Jake

Dont agree with him but at least he said pick 19. I was expecting the dopey prick to say pick 1.

How many GWS 1st and 2nd rounders are on their list? I just had a quick look at their list on draftguru.com.au and they have 19 first rounders of which it includes Dale Thomas, Lobbe and Jeb Lamb who was pick 21 in 2010 when the first round finished at pick 25. The other 16 are under pick 20. They have the players they dont do a good job with development and coaching. Pick 19 will do SFA to fix that up.

 

[_VXV]

Dont agree with him but at least he said pick 19. I was expecting the dopey prick to say pick 1.

How many GWS 1st and 2nd rounders are on their list? I just had a quick look at their list on draftguru.com.au and they have 19 first rounders of which it includes Dale Thomas, Lobbe and Jeb Lamb who was pick 21 in 2010 when the first round finished at pick 25. The other 16 are under pick 20. They have the players they dont do a good job with development and coaching. Pick 19 will do SFA to fix that up.

All it’ll do is condemn some poor talented kid to a career in mediocrity.

 

[edgie]

All it’ll do is condemn some poor talented kid to a career in mediocrity.

Does it pay well?

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[Portology]

Can someone tell me, have Carlton been hamstrung in recent years by something to stop them getting better? I am sure the penalties for salary cap rorting was a long time ago now? Even the Crows have been able to overcome draft pick losses to not bottom out like Carlton have for a decade. I dont get why they deserve a priority pick now?

They won 6 games last year, same as North, and one less than Richmond in 2016. Last in 2015, just above the Dogs with 7.5W in 2014, and “suffered” 6 years of middly 10W-14W seasons before that. 5 years of 2002 triggered total shite before that.

The current slump has *nothing* to do with 2002 draft sanctions. This is just the tail of one failed rebuild, where the need for the *next* rebuild was again wilfully ignored.

They’ve been here before, you see.

Carlton won the 2002 spoon *before* sanctions hit. That self inflicted wound, a much needed but much delayed rebuild, and Elliott-inspired financial straits all hit at the same time.

Three big differences then to our 2011-12 slump:

1. Non-diluted draft pools for years
2. 3x PP: 2003, 2005, 2007, (one lost 2002)
3. Unashamed entitlement mentality

They rebuilt, traded “big”... rose a tad, but it failed. This isn’t a club on the edge of survival. This is a bunch of folks allowing entitlement to compound incompetence and instability. And so it continues: <insert Trigg reference here>.

This time around with the draft no longer quite as diluted as it was for us, there’s free agency having opened trade floodgates, open bidding on other clubs’ potential “priority” draftees, Cat B pathways for alternative talents, and they’re about to get their own zone of sorts to pillage and to populate with brown paper bag immigrants from their their zones. There’s never been a more open market. Rebuilds to at least “competitiveness” have never been possible faster than today - and it will get faster IMO.

**** me. How much more of a leg up do they think they’re entitled to over decades?

If I was Gil I’d tell them to STFU and go watch Brisbane v Hawks. No, perhaps it would be more effective if Jeff Kennett stepped out and slapped their faces with it in public


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[Grave Danger]

It won't be called a priority pick, but they'll be gifted Motlop tier compensation for some lucky bugger who escapes to another club via free agency.

 

[pastmyprimus]

Carlton have blown a lot of of their early draft picks and made poor trade decisions in recent years. They shouldn't get rewarded for self-inflicted wounds.

 

[Killer Power]

Dont agree with him but at least he said pick 19. I was expecting the dopey prick to say pick 1.

How many GWS 1st and 2nd rounders are on their list? I just had a quick look at their list on draftguru.com.au and they have 19 first rounders of which it includes Dale Thomas, Lobbe and Jeb Lamb who was pick 21 in 2010 when the first round finished at pick 25. The other 16 are under pick 20. They have the players they dont do a good job with development and coaching. Pick 19 will do SFA to fix that up.

Amazing isn't it. SOS went all in when he came over from GWS and dragged a stack of juniors with him.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

If Carlton get a priority pick they can pick the young SA gun that Adelaide has their eye on with their early second from the Blues and we can start the whole Bryce Gibbs saga all over again.

I'd be OK with that.

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