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[Stromageddon]

It's a bit deeper than that. Free agency has allowed players to in effect opt out of their contracts early by saying 'trade me this year or lose me to free agency for less'. It allows players to effectively break contracts early with the threat of free agency around the corner.

You know how the AFL will attempt to rectify this, right?
"OK new rule. Nobody can be traded if they are a FA the year after"
So then players start demanding trades two years before. And so on and so forth until finally the AFL abandons trades altogether and all players are free agents after their initial contract with the club.

 

[The Smaller Warrior]

Giles picks the Bombers over the Crows

 

[jonasshirtfront]

I've heard this mentioned a bit this year, how would it work?

Hypothetically, would we be able to offer Essendon our first round pick in 2015 for Ryder as well as this year's? (as an example only, not saying we can or should do that)

Yep, so it needs a bit of extra thought from the players involved too, since if you trade a player to a team for a future first rounder and he makes them better, then you get less back than otherwise since their draft position is worse. Also it leads to situations like the Ted Stepien run Cleveland Cavaliers of the early 80s, who traded away so many future first round picks and were so awful because of it that the NBA ended up making a rule that stopped you from trading away consecutive first rounders. It's pretty funny unless you're a Cleveland fan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Stepien

 

[finbarr]

Giles picks the Bombers over the Crows

lol

 

[wilbur_15]

Nathan Brown trying to explain grievance tribunal process:

"ummm, *inarticulate blunder, blunder, blah, blah, then he'll be released and can enter pre-season draft.... Ryder has ARTICULATED IT!"

Amateur flog. Take out earphones in disgust.

10 mins later, bored again so earphones back in. Nathan Brown:

"I have often thought with the Bulldogs making those 3 prelims in a row but not the grand final, if they had another good player in their team like me, would it have been different? Should I have left?"

Arrogant, amateur flog. Earphones out in further disgust and shaking head.

When is this idiot off? At least Terry Wallace occasionally makes reasonable points!

 

[LFC2010]

J Giles nominated Essendon as his preferred club.

hahahahahaha Adelaide and stoopid.

Probably opens up a 3 way deal with Port/GWS/Essendon now.

 

[Adz2332]

id rather Adelaide got Giles then Lowden to be honest

 

[Trewth]

You know your rabble status is confirmed when players would rather play for Essendon.

 

[BornPort]

Giles picks the Bombers over the Crows

Cue Crows supporters and cRowie saying they never wanted him anyway.

 

[finbarr]

Ruthless.

 

[scottjr]

Giles picks the Bombers over the Crows

Was it a culture issue?

 

[Doctor Feel]

Hahaha fantastic.

 

[Portress Hill]

Jesus. That means GWS have to start negotiating with Essendon. Poor buggas

Let me guess, pick 100 will get it done?

 

[I Dont Care]

There may be a legal document forcing that..

Legal document like a 2 year contract?

 

[finbarr]

You know your rabble status is confirmed when players would rather play for Essendon.

And a South Australian no less. Oh boy.

Viva la Roo-volution!

 

[TheRoo32]

You know your rabble status is confirmed when players would rather play for Essendon.

Yeah. Why would a player want to go somewhere where he'll actually get games, prolong his career and can better set himself up financially in the last few years of his career. Don't worry about logic.

 

[LFC2010]

Yeah. Why would a player want to go somewhere where he'll actually get games, prolong his career and can better set himself up financially in the last few years of his career. Don't worry about logic.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[finbarr]

Yeah. Why would a player want to go somewhere where he'll actually get games, prolong his career and can better set himself up financially in the last few years of his career. Don't worry about logic.

You have one ruckman.

 

[Trewth]

Yeah. Why would a player want to go somewhere where he'll actually get games, prolong his career and can better set himself up financially in the last few years of his career. Don't worry about logic.

You have one ruckman, no back ups and would have paid him his market worth. Logic indeed.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Oh dearie me TheRoo32 is mad. Giles would instantly get a game ahead of J-Plod. No less effective as a forward but also offers Jacobs a chop-out as a ruckman and allows Jenkins to spend the whole game in his best position as a forward.

Second year in a row that a player has picked the Bombers over the Crows, with Shaun Edwards doing the same last year. Players would rather go to a drug den which could lose half its playing list to suspension any day now than go to the Crows.

Brisbane: Beams, Christensen
Carlton: Jaksch, maybe Whiley
Collingwood: Greenwood, Crisp, maybe Varcoe
Essendon: Giles
Geelong: Clark
Gold Coast: Malceski
GWS: Griffen
Hawthorn: Frawley, O'Rourke
Melbourne: Garlett, Frost, Hurtier Mybumba
Norf: Waite, Higgins
Port: Ryder, Gorringe
Richmond: Initially attracted Winderlich and Trengove, although the deals fell through
St Kilda: Membrey
Western Bulldogs: Boyd

Every team in the AFL apart from Sydney who have been barred from trading and the two WA teams who don't seem to have really tried to chase anyone has managed to attract at least one player this off-season. The bottom 4 teams have attracted players. The teams without a coach have attracted players. The drug den has attracted players. The Crows have not attracted players. So the question has to be asked, is the AFC the least attractive destination in the AFL right now?

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Wow Michael Voss as midfield manager

 

[Dentshop]

Wow Michael Voss as midfield manager

Wowie wow indeed. Just heard that on SEN

Massive appointment

 

[Powerage]

Wowie wow indeed. Just heard that on SEN

Massive appointment

Great get. Wasn't sure about some of his recruitments at Brisbane, but if anyone should be able to coach a midfield it would be Vossy.

 

[Nelso]

Yeah. Why would a player want to go somewhere where he'll actually get games, prolong his career and can better set himself up financially in the last few years of his career. Don't worry about logic.

Someone is mad

 

[Jonts]

What Club voss at

hypothetical
J ttengove for our third rounder?
Was never pick 2"value
a good sanfl finals campaign heavily inflated his price IMo before that we were looking at him sliding IRRC

Would you do it?