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I'm of the view that it's difficult for us to get assistant coaches with no ties to SA because there are 4-5 assistant roles at every club which because of the soft cap presumably pay pretty similar salaries - so if you've got any profile at all why would you uproot from your home state just to make a sideways financial and career move at a club like Port?
The senior coach discussion is entirely different though. There are only 18 opportunities and you never know if or when your chance will come. There's no reason why we wouldn't be able to attain pretty well any untried coach we like and even a decent number of the experienced coaches.
Any aspiring coach worth their salt wants success too.
Being able to take over at Port should be so much more appealing to take over at somewhere like norf for that reason alone.
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I think taking Port over now compared to 2012 is a different story. Nail in head about assistants however.
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Yeah why would you want to be an assistant at Port when you get thrown under the bus to save Stinkley's ass
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Adelaide isn’t far behind North Melbourne for last finals appearance, that is ungodly bad for the proclaimed no.1 team in the state.
The players can’t run because their full to the brim in their own bath water.
The players can’t run because their full to the brim in their own bath water.
Not Victorian or from WA for Jones. Quaynor was never really available.
See the fact that they tried bidding on Blakely as well. And they probably thought that Jackson Hately would still be available at the McHenry pick.
‘No one gets 7 years in football’
Everyone nods.
But wtaf does that mean? It’s a meaningless comment.
Clubs get 7 years and more waiting for success all the time. St Kilda’s been waiting almost 60 years ffs.
Someone said earlier that Five AA is Adelaide’s top footy station. If the sort of empty whiny ranting that KG, Rowe, Goodings and their other morons deliver every week is the best on offer then no wonder our AFL teams have zero respect and F-All to show in the past two decades.
Everyone nods.
But wtaf does that mean? It’s a meaningless comment.
Clubs get 7 years and more waiting for success all the time. St Kilda’s been waiting almost 60 years ffs.
Someone said earlier that Five AA is Adelaide’s top footy station. If the sort of empty whiny ranting that KG, Rowe, Goodings and their other morons deliver every week is the best on offer then no wonder our AFL teams have zero respect and F-All to show in the past two decades.
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I felt Adelaide's 2023 was a massive overachievement and they're just back in line with where their list dictates they should be now.
Not sure it's worth sacking Nicks over. You're not winning games with the next coach either.
Not sure it's worth sacking Nicks over. You're not winning games with the next coach either.
Your first paragraph is the exact reason GWS and Sydney want a COLA in their soft cap.
How many assistant coaches relocate to Adelaide after their playing career? There aren’t many who don’t have existing ties to SA.
I heard on SEN the average salary for a first year assistant coach is about $120k. Would you up route your family for that? To live under the Adelaide microscope?
I think they are meaning no head coach gets 7 years without making finals.
Which is pretty reasonable honestly.
7 years without making finals, 9 at an absolute maximum without winning a flag. Its a decent rule of thumb.
We've almost doubled no finals for 7 years?
Crows CEO will in 5AA sports show today. Pretty keen to get on the front foot.
Meantime, Matthew "who is" Richardson, crickets
Meantime, Matthew "who is" Richardson, crickets
Jumped on board the year after a Grand Final appearance and haven't seen September football for the time of the membership...
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Because sometimes you have to go sideways to go up. If you’re stuck where you are then maybe you’d look at another club where the head coach is under pressure.
So yeah, not Port.
I’m not saying that SA’s location isn’t a factor at all but I think we have bigger problems.
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And Ken wouldn't change a thing.
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Fair enough.
Although Nicks has only been there since 2020 - and was appointed AFTER the full ''External Review' that was undertaken in 2019 that was supposed to have set the Crows back on the path to a Premiership after the post 2017 GF loss and camp debacle. A review that was set up by Football Director Mark Ricciuto and undertaken by his media mates including Dunstall.
Ricciuto is still at the Crows and still wearing the double hat of Football Dicrtetor and media personality.
The problem in my view is not Nicks but the culture and structure of the Crows and their cosy relationship with the Adelaide and national footy media - especially NewsCorp outlets and their Fox partners. This is not a new thing of course but goes to the very heart of the Crows existence.
Dare I say it but there is truth in Rowe's 'Boys' Club comments. The irony is that Rowe and his employer has been very much a part of the protection racket that has allowed the Crow 'boys club' to thrive.
A boys' club culture that many think is also undermining hard edged criticism and success at Alberton.
LOL, all that'd happen is Carr would be gone, we still have Ken and they promote Cornes, Hartlett or Sutcliffe to senior assistant.
I wonder why Dunstall, in his media role, has had so much praise for the Crows after the last couple of years?
Attracting assistant coaches is such an overrated concern this is a heartland state full of ex players/experienced state league coaches etc. that would be as good as anyone if given opportunity.
Our biggest problem is giving jobs to people like Chad Cornes & Hamish Hartlett on the back of little to no coaching experience, you could've had people like Gotch running the SANFL program & a guy like Campo working with midfielders etc. we are so myopic on this I'd give plenty of state league coaches a look at line coaching before worrying about who won't move out of Victoria.
Our biggest problem is giving jobs to people like Chad Cornes & Hamish Hartlett on the back of little to no coaching experience, you could've had people like Gotch running the SANFL program & a guy like Campo working with midfielders etc. we are so myopic on this I'd give plenty of state league coaches a look at line coaching before worrying about who won't move out of Victoria.
This story from 2019 on the Crows' external review has proven prophetic...
'Geelong created the blueprint, and Collingwood and Richmond followed when faced with the arduous task of turning around the fortunes of their respective clubs.'
'But the Crows have departed from that methodology — and it could set the club back for years.'
Paul Roos told On The Couch the Crows were going about rectifying their problems the wrong way, labelling the external review as “alarming”.
AFL 2019: The ‘flawed methodology’ behind Adelaide Crows’ external review
The Crows are soul searching — and it could set them back years
www.foxsports.com.au
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