Mega Thread Possible trades in 2015 for the Crows

[TexForPM]

Barrett. Tweeting big news about to drop.

"Managed to clear 4 days of build up. Thanks metamucil."

 

[Squiba]

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If that's the case we may as well do a blanket policy of never drafting another Victorian again

Well, Jarman did say Adelaide has a no dickheads policy...

 

[TexForPM]

Stevie J geez. slow day...

 

[TexForPM]

I think we can kill off the dream of picking up Anderson and Talia.

The lastest contract signings mean that Wright and Kerridge are the only players still uncontracted. With 3 live draft selections we need to delist Wright. Kerridge out, Hampton in, means that the list position maths doesn't change. There are no positions left for Anderson and Talia on our senior list.

Kelly to rookie list
Anderson in.
Edit: Talia in
upgrade picks get 1 gun?

 

[footy4ever]

I must have missed that.

Please be Bennell

Ha ha same, but it won't be.

I wan't a Bennell or a Yarran, not these might-be-good-even-though-they-can't-get-a-game-with-their-current-club players.

I want the one with leather and reversing camera and a decent bloody motor not some tinny 4 pot underpowered screaming….oh wait, forgive me, I've been arguing cars with a mate recently. But you get what I mean yeah?

 

[baldandbroke]

I think we can kill off the dream of picking up Anderson and Talia.

The lastest contract signings mean that Wright and Kerridge are the only players still uncontracted. With 3 live draft selections we need to delist Wright. Kerridge out, Hampton in, means that the list position maths doesn't change. There are no positions left for Anderson and Talia on our senior list.

Who would we rather? Anderson or Talia?

I'd personally prefer Yarran over both of them.

 

[Vader]

Who would we rather? Anderson or Talia?

I'd personally prefer Yarran over both of them.

Of the 3, I'd prefer Anderson, as I think he has the most potential. Not interested in Yarran at all.

That said, the list mathematics says that we won't be getting any of them.

 

[1990crow]

Who would we rather? Anderson or Talia?

I'd personally prefer Yarran over both of them.

Anderson > Talia > Yarran

 

[displacedaussie]

Lowden is the back up to JJ and provides a left handed ruckman option. How much of JJ's form this year might have been created by the perceived pressure of us bringing Lowden in? When did JJ's form really start to take off? When Lowden started playing games in the SANFL...

Didn't JJ credit Podsiadly's support and guidance for his improved form? Surely that's more likely than perceived pressure from Lowden?

 

[baldandbroke]

Of the 3, I'd prefer Anderson, as I think he has the most potential. Not interested in Yarran at all.

Anderson > Talia > Yarran

Okely dokely. No love for Yarran? He is a young, tough, fast, skilled player in my eyes. I don't know jack about Anderson beyond the chit chat, and Talia I reckon might be a bit like Selwood to Geelong. Is he actually a decent AFL level player?

 

[Croweater23]

For heaven's sake someone give me a rumor or SOMETHING?!

Trade radio is permanently in between a rambling of bias 'expert' commentary on Victorian trades that may or may not happening and absolutely nothingness.

Someone give me some light, I don't care if it's made up. Are we talking to Yarran? Are we a shot at landing Jed to team up with Jet in the forward 50? Have we swapped our third rounder of 2016 for someone's fourth of 2015 ... Anything?!

 

[dogs105]

Of course we can do that trade. It's no different to the pick swap we did with Geelong last year. The AFL would sign off on that deal in a heartbeat.

Yes, so there is an arbitrage opportunity:
28 and 32 is worth more than 14 to Sydney
14 is worth more than 28 and 32 to us

The AFL system has created value.

 

[oldcrowgirl]

Must have grown since Knigtmare's draft profile.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Shit! Another 40 pages just to catch up. At this rate by the time I get to page 1044 there would have been another 40 pages added.

 

[SydCrow]

13-9=4, or is that the joke?

it's Rowie so no

 

[baldandbroke]

For heaven's sake someone give me a rumor or SOMETHING?!

Trade radio is permanently in between a rambling of bias 'expert' commentary on Victorian trades that may or may not happening and absolutely nothingness.

Someone give me some light, I don't care if it's made up. Are we talking to Yarran? Are we a shot at landing Jed to team up with Jet in the forward 50? Have we swapped our third rounder of 2016 for someone's fourth of 2015 ... Anything?!

I'd go with trying to figure out which player we need to target - whether they are openly available to us or not.

Menzel
Yarran
Anderson
Talia
Mayes
Bennell (not done yet)

If we aren't using all our picks, we need to either upgrade the ones we are going to use or get something for the 2016 draft.

If we don't do any more trades, then at least get pick 14 from Sydney and do a swap of 13 and 14 for a lower pick - so we go in to the draft with something like 5 and 9

 

[dogs105]

I'd go with trying to figure out which player we need to target - whether they are openly available to us or not.

Menzel
Yarran
Anderson
Talia
Mayes
Bennell (not done yet)

If we aren't using all our picks, we need to either upgrade the ones we are going to use or get something for the 2016 draft.

If we don't do any more trades, then at least get pick 14 from Sydney and do a swap of 13 and 14 for a lower pick - so we go in to the draft with something like 5 and 9

I am slightly amused by the fact that we want to chase pick 14 hard, after we have spent a month saying "pick 14 is crap, send him to the draft". Just has nice symmetry!

 

[TexForPM]

I'd go with trying to figure out which player we need to target - whether they are openly available to us or not.

Menzel
Yarran
Anderson
Talia
Mayes
Bennell (not done yet)

If we aren't using all our picks, we need to either upgrade the ones we are going to use or get something for the 2016 draft.

If we don't do any more trades, then at least get pick 14 from Sydney and do a swap of 13 and 14 for a lower pick - so we go in to the draft with something like 5 and 9

Totally forgot about getting more 2016 picks. No brainer if we don't need this years.
Looks like we need to fill 3:
1 must be a gun (so either 9 or upgrade to high position)
Talia probably a good idea to sure up both brother for long term.
Anderson must be close (would be annoyed if we don't get him)
if we want 4 push a rookie back and get another gun top 10 or Menzel Bennell or whoever as high profile

 

[Modra4PM]

I'd go with trying to figure out which player we need to target - whether they are openly available to us or not.

Menzel
Yarran
Anderson
Talia
Mayes
Bennell (not done yet)

If we aren't using all our picks, we need to either upgrade the ones we are going to use or get something for the 2016 draft.

If we don't do any more trades, then at least get pick 14 from Sydney and do a swap of 13 and 14 for a lower pick - so we go in to the draft with something like 5 and 9

I hear you, I need something ! After the recent adversity the club has faced : tiprat gate, losing players, losing coaches tragically, the BS from the afl around fixturng, allowing teams to rest players, the rediculous AA team etc ive about had a gutfull and had been considering taking a step back from footy. I only recently joined bigfooty so I could assess the damage post danger leaving and try find some hope for this trade period. Seems like we are missing targets.

 

[arsene wenger1]

Just got slightly excited in the pants I must admit.......misread the heading on afl website, "Prestia interest grows" as "Prestia interest crows"

 

[Cleric]

Where did Graeme Wright say that?

Trade Radio said Gary Buckenara was the head recuiter. Obviously not.
Anyway Gary said it is the worst draft in over a decade.

 

[Squiba]

Shit! Another 40 pages just to catch up. At this rate by the time I get to page 1044 there would have been another 40 pages added.

Don't bother, I'll fill you in

Kerridge to Carlton possibly with a pick for anything from pick 20 to menzel or nothing at all.

Mayes might be moving

Carlton chasing everybody with a pulse

Andersen a possibility for either a late first rounder (if excess) to pick 28

Pick swaps possible with both Sydney and St. Kilda. Sydney pick swap would see us get 14 for 28+32

That's about it really

 

[Danoz]

Okay, so there's shuffling, it's not like everyone loses a spot in the line. Sweet.

Here's some detail if it helps, with some examples thrown in.

Draft order right now, let's say this is how it begins on draft night. Draft pick value to the left. The bastards didn't include Suckling and Selwood compo, I'll add that in the next one.
ROUND ONE
3000 CARL 1 Carlton
2517 BL 2 Brisbane Lions
2234 GCFC 3 Gold Coast
2034 ESS 4 Essendon
1878 STK 5 St Kilda
1751 MELB 6 Melbourne
1644 COLL 7 Collingwood
1551 GWS 8 Greater Western Sydney
1469 ADEL 9 Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
1395 PORT 10 Port Adelaide
1329 WB 11 Western Bulldogs
1268 RICH 12 Richmond
1212 ADEL 13 Adelaide
1161 SYD 14 Sydney Swans
1112 NMFC 15 North Melbourne
1067 FRE 16 Fremantle
1025 BL 17 Brisbane Lions (received from West Coast via a trade for Jack Redden)
985 HAW 18 Hawthorn
END OF ROUND ONE
948 GCFC 19 Gold Coast (received from Greater Western Sydney via a trade in 2012; traded to the Giants by Fremantle in 2011; originally received by the Dockers as compensation for Rhys Palmer)
ROUND TWO
912 CARL 20 Carlton
878 BL 21 Brisbane Lions
845 GCFC 22 Gold Coast
815 ESS 23 Essendon
785 STK 24 St Kilda
756 MELB 25 Melbourne
729 COLL 26 Collingwood
703 GWS 27 Greater Western Sydney
677 ADEL 28 Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
653 PORT 29 Port Adelaide
629 WB 30 Western Bulldogs
606 RICH 31 Richmond
584 ADEL 32 Adelaide
563 SYD 33 Sydney Swans
542 NMFC 34 North Melbourne
522 FRE 35 Fremantle
502 WCE 36 West Coast
483 HAW 37 Hawthorn
ROUND THREE
465 CARL 38 Carlton
446 BL 39 Brisbane Lions
429 GCFC 40 Gold Coast
412 ESS 41 Essendon
395 STK 42 St Kilda
378 MELB 43 Melbourne
362 COLL 44 Collingwood
347 GWS 45 Greater Western Sydney
331 GEEL 46 Geelong
316 PORT 47 Port Adelaide
302 WB 48 Western Bulldogs
287 RICH 49 Richmond
273 GEEL 50 Geelong (received from Adelaide as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
259 SYD 51 Sydney Swans
246 NMFC 52 North Melbourne
233 FRE 53 Fremantle
220 WCE 54 West Coast
207 HAW 55 Hawthorn
ROUND FOUR
194 CARL 56 Carlton
182 BL 57 Brisbane Lions
170 GCFC 58 Gold Coast
158 ESS 59 Essendon
146 STK 60 St Kilda
135 MELB 61 Melbourne
123 COLL 62 Collingwood
112 GWS 63 Greater Western Sydney
101 GEEL 64 Geelong
90 PORT 65 Port Adelaide
80 WB 66 Western Bulldogs
69 RICH 67 Richmond
59 ADEL 68 Adelaide
49 SYD 69 Sydney Swans
39 NMFC 70 North Melbourne
29 FRE 71 Fremantle
19 WCE 72 West Coast
9 HAW 73 Hawthorn

Carlton take Weitering and BL take Schache. Let's say GC bid pick 3 on Mills and Sydney match, therefore their picks all move around, shown below. GC then take Francis (for example only). This all happens automatically. Their pick 14 becomes pick 3, pick 33 becomes pick 74 and pick 51 becomes pick 56.

ROUND ONE
3000 CARL 1 Carlton Weitering
2517 BL 2 Brisbane Lions Schache
2234 SYD 3 Sydney Swans Mills
2034 GCFC 4 Gold Coast Francis
1878 ESS 5 Essendon
1751 STK 6 St Kilda
1644 MELB 7 Melbourne
1551 COLL 8 Collingwood
1469 GWS 9 Greater Western Sydney
1395 ADEL 10 Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
1329 PORT 11 Port Adelaide
1268 WB 12 Western Bulldogs
1212 RICH 13 Richmond
1161 ADEL 14 Adelaide
1112 NMFC 15 North Melbourne
1067 FRE 16 Fremantle
1025 BL 17 Brisbane Lions (received from West Coast via a trade for Jack Redden)
985 HAW 18 Hawthorn
END OF ROUND ONE
948 GCFC 19 Gold Coast (received from Greater Western Sydney via a trade in 2012; traded to the Giants by Fremantle in 2011; originally received by the Dockers as compensation for Rhys Palmer)
ROUND TWO
912 CARL 20 Carlton
878 BL 21 Brisbane Lions
845 GCFC 22 Gold Coast
815 ESS 23 Essendon
785 STK 24 St Kilda
756 MELB 25 Melbourne
729 COLL 26 Collingwood
703 GWS 27 Greater Western Sydney
677 ADEL 28 Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
653 PORT 29 Port Adelaide
629 WB 30 Western Bulldogs
606 RICH 31 Richmond
584 ADEL 32 Adelaide
563 NMFC 33 North Melbourne
542 FRE 34 Fremantle
522 WCE 35 West Coast
502 WCE 36 West Coast (Scott Selwood Compensation)
483 HAW 37 Hawthorn
465 HAW 38 Hawthorn (Matt Suckling Compensation)
ROUND THREE
446 CARL 39 Carlton
429 BL 40 Brisbane Lions
412 GCFC 41 Gold Coast
395 ESS 42 Essendon
378 STK 43 St Kilda
362 MELB 44 Melbourne
347 COLL 45 Collingwood
331 GWS 46 Greater Western Sydney
316 GEEL 47 Geelong
302 PORT 48 Port Adelaide
287 WB 49 Western Bulldogs
273 RICH 50 Richmond
259 GEEL 51 Geelong (received from Adelaide as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
246 NMFC 52 North Melbourne
233 FRE 53 Fremantle
220 WCE 54 West Coast
207 HAW 55 Hawthorn
194 SYD 56 Sydney Swans
ROUND FOUR
182 CARL 57 Carlton
170 BL 58 Brisbane Lions
158 GCFC 59 Gold Coast
146 ESS 60 Essendon
135 STK 61 St Kilda
123 MELB 62 Melbourne
112 COLL 63 Collingwood
101 GWS 64 Greater Western Sydney
90 GEEL 65 Geelong
80 PORT 66 Port Adelaide
69 WB 67 Western Bulldogs
59 RICH 68 Richmond
49 ADEL 69 Adelaide
39 SYD 70 Sydney Swans
29 NMFC 71 North Melbourne
19 FRE 72 Fremantle
9 WCE 73 West Coast
0 SYD 74 Sydney Swans
0 HAW 75 Hawthorn

Then Essendon take Parish. Then Saints bid pick 6 on Hopper (GWS academy), GWS match so all their picks shuffle. 9 becomes 6, 27 moves down to 34.

ROUND ONE
3000 CARL 1 Carlton Weitering
2517 BL 2 Brisbane Lions Schache
2234 SYD 3 Sydney Swans Mills
2034 GCFC 4 Gold Coast Francis
1878 ESS 5 Essendon Parish
1751 GWS 6 Greater Western Sydney Hopper
1644 STK 7 St Kilda
1551 MELB 8 Melbourne
1469 COLL 9 Collingwood
1395 ADEL 10 Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
1329 PORT 11 Port Adelaide
1268 WB 12 Western Bulldogs
1212 RICH 13 Richmond
1161 ADEL 14 Adelaide
1112 NMFC 15 North Melbourne
1067 FRE 16 Fremantle
1025 BL 17 Brisbane Lions (received from West Coast via a trade for Jack Redden)
985 HAW 18 Hawthorn
END OF ROUND ONE
948 GCFC 19 Gold Coast (received from Greater Western Sydney via a trade in 2012; traded to the Giants by Fremantle in 2011; originally received by the Dockers as compensation for Rhys Palmer)
ROUND TWO
912 CARL 20 Carlton
878 BL 21 Brisbane Lions
845 GCFC 22 Gold Coast
815 ESS 23 Essendon
785 STK 24 St Kilda
756 MELB 25 Melbourne
729 COLL 26 Collingwood
703 ADEL 27 Adelaide (received from Geelong as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
677 PORT 28 Port Adelaide
653 WB 29 Western Bulldogs
629 RICH 30 Richmond
606 ADEL 31 Adelaide
584 NMFC 32 North Melbourne
563 FRE 33 Fremantle
542 GWS 34 Greater Western Sydney
522 WCE 35 West Coast
502 WCE 36 West Coast (Scott Selwood Compensation)
483 HAW 37 Hawthorn
465 HAW 38 Hawthorn (Matt Suckling Compensation)
ROUND THREE
446 CARL 39 Carlton
429 BL 40 Brisbane Lions
412 GCFC 41 Gold Coast
395 ESS 42 Essendon
378 STK 43 St Kilda
362 MELB 44 Melbourne
347 COLL 45 Collingwood
331 GWS 46 Greater Western Sydney
316 GEEL 47 Geelong
302 PORT 48 Port Adelaide
287 WB 49 Western Bulldogs
273 RICH 50 Richmond
259 GEEL 51 Geelong (received from Adelaide as part of the trade for Patrick Dangerfield)
246 NMFC 52 North Melbourne
233 FRE 53 Fremantle
220 WCE 54 West Coast
207 HAW 55 Hawthorn
194 SYD 56 Sydney Swans
ROUND FOUR
182 CARL 57 Carlton
170 BL 58 Brisbane Lions
158 GCFC 59 Gold Coast
146 ESS 60 Essendon
135 STK 61 St Kilda
123 MELB 62 Melbourne
112 COLL 63 Collingwood
101 GWS 64 Greater Western Sydney
90 GEEL 65 Geelong
80 PORT 66 Port Adelaide
69 WB 67 Western Bulldogs
59 RICH 68 Richmond
49 ADEL 69 Adelaide
39 SYD 70 Sydney Swans
29 NMFC 71 North Melbourne
19 FRE 72 Fremantle
9 WCE 73 West Coast
0 SYD 74 Sydney Swans
0 HAW 75 Hawthorn

 

[dogs105]

Trade Radio said Gary Buckenara was the head recuiter. Obviously not.
Anyway Gary said it is the worst draft in over a decade.

Well, he had a bucking beauty last year

 

[NikkiNoo]

Didn't JJ credit Podsiadly's support and guidance for his improved form? Surely that's more likely than perceived pressure from Lowden?

Why does it have to be just one thing? After years of coaching I know the answer of improvement etc was never just on one thing and sometimes they would improve or go backwards and it took a while before I figured out what the whole picture was.