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I'm not sure it's we're soft I think we are just too slow to impact the play. Shuey isn't soft and tries his heart out but he's the only one with a bit of speed and size about him.

Nah, we are soft. Too many players who expect the ball spoonfed to them rather than going in and getting their hands dirty.
 
At risk of a card but wondering whether theres an argument at investing time in developing and selecting an away team. Identify certain players who forever reason are limited away and pick them only for home. The 38 list restricts options no doubt but its a possible way to deal with things
Trouble is there's not much in the cupboard, our recruiting has been beyond terrible the last 5 years, the worst in the league I believe.
 
Masten with the classic con artist act. Shit when the game was on the line but decent when result was decided. Then again, he wasnt alone there.
I was so nervous at the start of the game i couldnt even type on my phone so I can understand nerves early . But by qtr time I was feeling the mongrel set in and i was touchscreen animal . Why cant the Eagles do that
 

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At risk of a card but wondering whether theres an argument at investing time in developing and selecting an away team. Identify certain players who forever reason are limited away and pick them only for home. The 38 list restricts options no doubt but its a possible way to deal with things

You know things are ****ed when I briefly consider this idea

Don't stress about a card, as long as it's not a blatant troll we're all pretty chill
 
I agree with everything you said but the bolded part was just crap, Nic Nat has never been soft and has never shirked a contest.

Fair enough and probably worded it wrong but we are no better in big games when he plays and there is more than enough evidence to show that.
But more importantly I am sick of hearing after a loss that's it's because Nic is not out there.
 
I want to vent. I really do but Im too flat to care so Ill just keep drinking.

Can someone put me onto the West Coast official I need to talk to in order to receive compensation for my liver :drunk:
 
You know things are ****** when I briefly consider this idea

Don't stress about a card, as long as it's not a blatant troll we're all pretty chill
Not entirely stupid. The away team possibly has a different game plan that would probably be more defensive. Worst thing is to do.more of the same
 

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I wont sledge you guys, jeez, my team the Pies aren't exactly setting the world on fire at present. I cant fathom how you have a pretty good team on paper, great wins at home, but you simply cannot handle the MCG, its very puzzling. The Hawks were ripe for the picking, just cant figure out how you go missing on the G, every single game, very strange indeed.!
We are mentally soft mate that is it no ferosity, as soon as the heats on we panic. Time to play the kids
 

Ahh yes, they'll solve our problems! :drunk:

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I wont sledge you guys, jeez, my team the Pies aren't exactly setting the world on fire at present. I cant fathom how you have a pretty good team on paper, great wins at home, but you simply cannot handle the MCG, its very puzzling. The Hawks were ripe for the picking, just cant figure out how you go missing on the G, every single game, very strange indeed.!
Must be a mental thing. Who knows. We went okay against Richmond but bottled it at the end. Against the hawks its like dipping your **** in ice water. Shrinkage.
 
Convinced its the game plan and not the cattle. Simpson surrounds himself with meh coaching staff and it shows.
Agreed, but would add 'development' to that statement. No doubt we have a very talented list of players and you can see the potential, but Simpson and his mates haven't been able to get the best out of the talent we have.
 

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Ok, better get the usual stuff to melt about out of the way:
* Sack Simmo (Moose1414 will provide a 500 word essay on why).
* Drop Masten, LeCras, Redden, Sheed, Priddis, JK, Butler, Nelson e.g. to the WAFL and replace them with youth who certainly aren't ready.
* Take the captaincy away from Shannon Hurn.
* Sack the entire coaching and recruitment stuff for this loss.
* We won't win the premiership, are too soft, won't make the top 8 e.g.
* Pessimstic attitude for the next decade.
* Ask ndot to pick our next coach.

That should be about it, now to the real stuff.

****ing Hawthorn always getting favoured by those campaigners for umpires, ****ity **** ****.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to smashing Freo next week, hopefully it'll be a good game.
 
Fair enough and probably worded it wrong but we are no better in big games when he plays and there is more than enough evidence to show that.
But more importantly I am sick of hearing after a loss that's it's because Nic is not out there.
He's gotten us over the line in plenty of big games.
But I agree with you on all other points, the team is soft, the team is pathetic and we have far too many passengers who put about as much effort in as your average d grade country footballer
 
At risk of a card but wondering whether theres an argument at investing time in developing and selecting an away team. Identify certain players who forever reason are limited away and pick them only for home. The 38 list restricts options no doubt but its a possible way to deal with things

We aren't like certain other team boards, we're fairly welcoming as long as you aren't a dick.

Stupid idea but I guess if this continues you should raise it with Simmo.
 
Psotives:

Nelson - Some poor disposal, but it was happening to Shuey and Hurn as well. Looked to run, has some aggression in him (might be the only one who does) and can lay a decent tackle.

Barrass - Seemed to be getting smashed with balls coming in, was in a huge amount of contests and did ok

Darling - I guess he got some goals, but wasn't great

Masten - Actually hit some targets by foot and laid tackles, ran all day


Negatives:

JK - Had to kick those set shots, inexcusable in a game like that

Vardy - Absolutely useless, would have preferred we played no ruckmen and just went for the oppositions tap. What a liability.

Duggan - Shit disposal, absolutely shit, side step didn't fool anyone and he neevr has any idea what his goal is

Priddis - Shit game, just shit and slow and had zero impact while we got smashed

Shuey - Couldn't hold the ball, great last quarter but it was too late, poor disposal early on ruined a lot of plays

Delivery forward - 2 on 1s ... 3 on 1s ... it didn't matter, they went for it. The amount of leads that were ruined by the ball coming in requiring small players to stop and prop and have to go up and get it was pathetic

Butler - Nope, great last week and pathetic today, no run created, ever. Wasn't as good defensively.

Sheed - Needs to be in the WAFL, he's not fast enough in the brain or the legs
Masten?????? The dud absolutely pied 3 inside 50s in the first quarter - 1 out on the bloody full and then gave away a stupid free kick in front of goal being reckless. So thats 9 points right there. No positives for him at all.
 

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