Training Pre-season Training 2017

[DanWCE]

Butler. Much as I love him.

Back seven of Gov, Barrass, EMAc/Schoey, Hurn, Shep, Wellers and Yeo.

Butler had a really good 2016 I reckon. However 2017 could be a changing of the guard as we have a lot of youngsters vying for that position. Sadly he is one medium term injury away from retirement you'd think. Amazing how durable he was last season given his history and age.

 

[SpaceClef]

Note holders - a special membership class that's a throwback to the formation of the Eagles and the company Indian Pacific that was formed to raise money for the license fee. They get priority access to finals tickets and some other benefits I think

Something like that anyway.

As in the cross-continental former luxury sleeper train service, the Indian-Pacific?

 

[matt_bas]

Note holders - a special membership class that's a throwback to the formation of the Eagles and the company Indian Pacific that was formed to raise money for the license fee. They get priority access to finals tickets and some other benefits I think

Something like that anyway.

Spot on. Priority access to finals. Have sat behind interchange bench at most finals. Guaranteed seats at GF. Gave them to a friend to use and they got awsome GF seats. And we get first options of seats at perth oval before other members.

 

[SpaceClef]

Spot on. Priority access to finals. Have sat behind interchange bench at most finals. Guaranteed seats at GF. Gave them to a friend to use and they got awsome GF seats. And we get first options of seats at perth oval before other members.

How many 'likes' did you give out to get your note?

 

[Keys]

As in the cross-continental former luxury sleeper train service, the Indian-Pacific?

Nothing to do with the train at all as far as I know although they share the same name

The company was a bust anyway and the WAFC took over the license in 1989 and Indian pacific was shutdown it long after.

 

[matt_bas]

How many 'likes' did you give out to get your note?

I got them before likes were invented

 

[SpaceClef]

Nothing to do with the train at all as far as I know although they share the same name

The company was a bust anyway and the WAFC took over the license in 1989 and Indian pacific was shutdown it long after.

Fair enough. Thought they might have tried to promote it as a way of going to interstate matches back when flight prices were outrageous

 

[Mickey Rae]

Note holders - a special membership class that's a throwback to the formation of the Eagles and the company Indian Pacific that was formed to raise money for the license fee. They get priority access to finals tickets and some other benefits I think

Something like that anyway.

I may be wrong here but I believe that any transfer in ownership of the club's licence to the AFL (which has been mooted) might also mean that the AFL will also have to buy back the "notes" from the "holders". That may be why McHenry etc... were buying them up a few years ago.

 

[Mickey Rae]

Yea I spoke to them this week about getting mine reprinted as I lost them. Asked what they were worth and was told $3500 each

Yeah .... that price is what is being bandied around at the moment. A 52% return on a 3 year investment ...... I will take that!

 

[bl4ke]

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/fo...e/news-story/2ba4dad9fcadb78d1a7ee52dbf1600d8

Gee they throw the word 'star' around loosely these days

 

[WCE_phil]

Who does he replace? Shep too does his best work back there. Wellingham maybe the only one with the ability to rotate further up the ground.

If Yeo had the tank to play on a wing his aerial prowess would come in handy. He has pace and offers a great target for the outlet kick. He would need better endurance and understanding of where to run.

FB Hurn Emac Sheppard
HB Yeo Barrass Mitchell
C Gaff Priddis Sheed
HF Darling Mcgovern Cripps
FF Rioli Kennedy Lecras
R Lycett Priddis Shuey
I Wellingham Redden Jetta Hutchings/Duggan/Parto/Masten whoever is performing better.

Slyce rucks, gov gives backup. When gov goes to ruck darling CHF, if gov has to go back again Darling CHF.

 

[former lurker]

Who seriously doesn't understand why rucking Gov is a bad idea ? And seriously, Barrass had a few good games and one blinder and most on here think he is ready to be our No 1 key defender? The boy obviously has heaps of talent, but slowly slowly eh ? And DONT ruck Gov!

 

[Mickey Rae]

Who seriously doesn't understand why rucking Gov is a bad idea ? And seriously, Barrass had a few good games and one blinder and most on here think he is ready to be our No 1 key defender? The boy obviously has heaps of talent, but slowly slowly eh ? And DONT ruck Gov!

With our No. 1 and No. 2 ruckmen both down with knee injuries, incurred while playing on the ball ... why not play Gov in the ruck? It's not like he's injury prone or anything!

 

[KamakazeSalami]

With our No. 1 and No. 2 ruckmen both down with knee injuries, incurred while playing on the ball ... why not play Gov in the ruck? It's not like he's injury prone or anything!

Or that he has been pretty ineffectual on the few occasions he has been thrown in there?

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[Mickey Rae]

Or that he has been pretty ineffectual on the few occasions he has been thrown in there?

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Yep .... that too!

 

[former lurker]

With our No. 1 and No. 2 ruckmen both down with knee injuries, incurred while playing on the ball ... why not play Gov in the ruck? It's not like he's injury prone or anything!

Fair point.

 

[Biggie]

And seriously, Barrass had a few good games and one blinder and most on here think he is ready to be our No 1 key defender? The boy obviously has heaps of talent, but slowly slowly eh ?

Clearly #1 defender now.

 

[SpaceClef]

Who seriously doesn't understand why rucking Gov is a bad idea ? And seriously, Barrass had a few good games and one blinder and most on here think he is ready to be our No 1 key defender? The boy obviously has heaps of talent, but slowly slowly eh ? And DONT ruck Gov!

The problem is we are prone to getting ****ed up the ass by ground-level contested footy oriented teams. If we want to play Barrass, Mackenzie (or Schofield), McGovern, Kennedy and Darling plus a second ruckman on the field at the same time, then we become far too vulnerable to smaller sides that play a less aerial gameplan.

Especially since a lot of our smalls (Sheppard, Le Cras, Hill, and Yeo to an extent) also play tall.

 

[matt_bas]

Clearly #1 defender now.

Clearly he's just a fan and hasn't watched Barrass play.

 

[Chris_6678]

Love Barras but there is a massive chance he has a second year blues kind of year. In saying that i thought the same of Gov and has backed it up each year. Lucky we have Emac to keep Barrass honest.

 

[WCE_phil]

Then in my scenario schofield replaces barrass. It's pretty simple, you play 2 genuine tall defenders, both yeo and sheppard are exceptional above their head for their size. Thats plenty of tall coverage down back. Hurn for the power and kick outs, mitchell for the release and class. Gov becomes a true swingman. If we're against GWS then potentially an extra tall down back, but we need to get it into our thick skulls as a football club 6-7 talls is plenty. Most would say 7 is too many

 

[KamakazeSalami]

The problem is we are prone to getting stuffed up the ass by ground-level contested footy oriented teams. If we want to play Barrass, Mackenzie (or Schofield), McGovern, Kennedy and Darling plus a second ruckman on the field at the same time, then we become far too vulnerable to smaller sides that play a less aerial gameplan.

Especially since a lot of our smalls (Sheppard, Le Cras, Hill, and Yeo to an extent) also play tall.

Agree with this too, but Gov in the ruck (or forward) is not the answer.

I'm so sick of this Land of the Giants game plan we have been seduced into for the last 10 years. As you say, we have players who play much taller than their height suggests. I'd add Hill (if he gets a look in) and LeCras too.

Ideally our big boys are 6 of:

- Ruck (Giles/Lycett)
- Fwd/Ruck (Vardy/Petrie/Lycett)
- FF (Kennedy)
- HF (Darling)
- HB (Gov)
- FB (Barrass/Emac/Schofield)

There's plenty of rucking depth in this team now to ensure we have adequate coverage for whoever is rucking the majority of the game.

I reckon at a pinch Darling would be a better option than Gov. He actually showed more in the few contests he was thrown in than Gov did. He halved contests and actually won a few too IRC.

Edit: Apologies, missed your inclusion of Hill and LeCras.

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[boondy]

Who seriously doesn't understand why rucking Gov is a bad idea ? And seriously, Barrass had a few good games and one blinder and most on here think he is ready to be our No 1 key defender? The boy obviously has heaps of talent, but slowly slowly eh ? And DONT ruck Gov!

Rucking Gov is rucking stupid . What if he gets a Rucking knee injury .

 

[SpaceClef]

Agree with this too, but Gov in the ruck (or forward) is not the answer.

I'm so sick of this Land of the Giants game plan we have been seduced into for the last 10 years. As you say, we have players who play much taller than their height suggests. I'd add Hill (if he gets a look in) and LeCras too.

Ideally our big boys are 6 of:

- Ruck (Giles/Lycett)
- Fwd/Ruck (Vardy/Petrie/Lycett)
- FF (Kennedy)
- HF (Darling)
- HB (Gov)
- FB (Barrass/Emac/Schofield)

There's plenty of rucking depth in this team now to ensure we have adequate coverage for whoever is rucking the majority of the game.

I reckon at a pinch Darling would be a better option than Gov. He actually showed more in the few contests he was thrown in than Gov did. He halved contests and actually won a few too IRC.

Edit: Apologies, missed your inclusion of Hill and LeCras.

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But there's no chance in hell that both Schofield and Mackenzie don't play, so we end up with one too many talls, unless Gov moves forward and replaces Vardy/Petrie/Lycett as second ruck.

 

[KamakazeSalami]

But there's no chance in hell that both Schofield and Mackenzie don't play, so we end up with one too many talls, unless Gov moves forward and replaces Vardy/Petrie/Lycett as second ruck.

Man, if they continue with that shit we are going to get found out big time. If, God forbid, they think 2 of Barrass, Emac, Schofield are a better combo than having Gov in the backline and throw him forward instead of Vardy/Petrie etc then I honestly think we'd be better with Darling in that forward/ruck role.

As much as he keeps going on about how it's his fave position etc, Gov has shown jack shit when thrown in there.

Ugh. I've just broken out in a cold sweat thinking about this scenario.

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