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Of course any player in the AFL can get a serious injury, but I don't understand why you are mentioning Darren Jolly regarding that. Is it just a ridiculous hypothetical example based on nothing at all whatsoever?You're unbelievable. What on earth has even made you think of the possibility of Darren Jolly suffering either a season or career ending injury? What sort of person would even think such a thing? It's ridiculous. I can understand the discussion of a potential injury to a player that has a history of injuries in their past, but it seems you're actually talking about the possibility of an unfortunate on field occurrence which could happen to any club and ruin their chances.For the first and last time, don't put words into my mouth because I have never said or suggested that it could not happen at Collingwood. My point is clearly that it is ridiculous to discuss such a hypothetical situation that would severely effect the chances of any team equally. It seems to me that you're only prepared to discuss the possibility of such an injury occurring to an important Collingwood player, and that is ridiculous.Your obsession regarding the fitness of Darren Jolly is morbid. It seems to me that you're actually hoping that something like that happens to him, otherwise why would you even think to bring it up? It also seems to me that you believe that such an injury can only happen to Jolly, but not any other irreplaceable player from another club, including your own. If you're going to mention the possibility of such a ridiculous hypothetical, then why aren't you discussing the other players that would equally effect their teams chances of any sort of success? It's stupid.Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! You're only prepared to discuss the possibility of such a serious injury occurring to him because you're obsessed by it.What is wrong with you? Every team would be in the same situation if they lost one of their most important players, but you're only talking about what that would do to Collingwood. The possibility of such an injury occurring to Lance Franklin, or Nick Riewoldt or Adam Cooney or Ryan Griffen wouldn't be any different.

If the Western Bulldogs lost Ben Hudson (6th in the 2010 best and fairest and 1st in the 2010 Brad Johnson award), then they don't have an adequate replacement either. It's ridiculous to talk about such a thing that is far more unlikely to occur because it is the vast minority of players that suffer such serious injuries.Well there is nothing that I have said that is inaccurate, and your biased obsession regarding the fitness of only Darren Jolly is weird, so what did you expect?

Thank you KS for proving the futility of discussion with yourself.
 
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KissStephanie is a master troll.

Ha ha ha! What a hypocrite! Can there possibly be any more troll like behaviour than this post?

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Irritates the hell out of everyone.

Considering that you've already shown yourself to be a hypocrite and that you don't know me at all, then I think it's fair to assume you're projecting the view that you have of yourself toward me. I can understand that you find yourself irritating though.

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Including her own clubs supporters.

I've met some of them and I have plenty of friends that barrack for Collingwood and other teams too, but BigFooty is not real life. I've heard you're a painter in real life though, and not a very good one at that, and nobody wants to work with you, and that your neighbours throw eggs at you when they see you.
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I expect this to be quoted and dissected.

I've actually never read a previous post of yours, and I won't be reading another in the future because you clearly have nothing to say. I'm obviously not going to miss much.

Bolded parts for the obvious trolling.

A quote from the 'sure they support the same club as me, but I wish they would **** off" thread

Athiest -
The Panther - Gigantic ****head.
KissStephanie - Posts walls of text yet still can't make a valid point.
The Distributer - Embarrassingly biased.

RoB 48 -
Got to agree with you there, I just had a look at the Demons board and she's hijacked a thread about the Bulldogs and turned it in to a lovefest for the Pies.
She has typed the longest response to another post I've ever seen, it nearly took up a page and it was all shit.

Lol.
 
In my teams point of view... freo will be lucky to repeat getting a home final in 2011. Facts are certain that some players are out for a long period. Morabito is out for 2011 and I dont know when barlow is coming back. Im hoping freo finish 7th or 8th to have the kids to gain extra finals experience.

Im 90% certain collingwood will win the flag. Only 3 teams I see stopping the magpies are Hawks, cats and saints. Im not taking away anthing from collingwood since they had a super season in 2010.

Only way I see collingwood make the grand final is that either geeling or most likey hawthorn play them in the prelim. Yes i am aware that geelong got thumped in the 2010 prelim. Dont be suprised if cats do bounce back and win the flag.

To be realistic any team can win the flag within 4-5 years, even both west coast and brisbane who have had shocking seasons. even gold coast can win it in 5 years.
 
It's not about having the last word "sonny", I just simply disagree with you, and think the "they still fear us" attitude that so many Hawks supporters hang on to (whether it be towards by own club or any other, but mainly seems to be directed at Collingwood) is far worse than any perceived arrogance the Pies supporters have shown in recent years.

What I meant with the punter thing was this - Sure, some people do rate the Hawks and want to put money on them, but it doesn't actually mean they are the third best team in the league, just because the bookie's odds say so. I seem to recall Carlton being strongly backed into the top 4 in the 2009 pre-season, and the Dogs were "Premiership favourites" with the bookies before the Pies beat them by 6 goals in Round 1 last year too. Punters overrate a team or two every year. The odds aren't a true form guide, they really do just show who the punters have put money on. That being said, straight up opinion (either from experts or the average bloke in the street/on BigFooty) can be wrong too - I seem to recall every man and his dog pegging the Eagles as a "smokey" for the 8 this time last year, and pre-season 2009, the Crows were genrally predicted to come 12th-13th.

None of us know exactly what's going to happen this season. The AFL throws up surprises all the time. But IMO, the Hawks haven't got enough this year to rise above the lower half of the 8, and have definitely been surpassed by Collingwood.
you disagree with me?what are you disagreeing with?i simply implied that others do rate hawthorn......i have not said that i rate hawthorn or don't rate hawthorn,have i?like i said earlier,try reading the posts before replying.your putting words in my mouth.i live in hope.i don't bother to rate at the beginning of the the season.i'll rate hawthorn at the end of the year,and i hope it's better than the last 2.....did i say i wouldn't reply again?as for collingwood surpassing hawthorn,you surpassed everyone,and deservedly won the flag,but that was 2010.back to back flags don't happen very often.alot can go wrong very quickly in this game,be it injuries,better game plans,and most important,lack of hunger and being satisfied with a flag.humans are generally predictable,teams with 22 humans generally are not.there are alot of teams i wouldn't be writing off at this stage.where did adelaide finish up last year?who knows this year?i don't.everyone is hunting you this year,lets hope all those young guns of yours didn't hit the piss hard and chase skirt to much.i know i would.having said all this,the pies are favourites,and rightly so.i just want it to start.
 

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Has anyone's opinion changed from the earlier opinions in this thread?

Reading over this thread, I couldn't help but laugh at most of the posts... especially the ones regarding Geelong considering it was prior to the 2011 season... my my, how things change.
 
Looks bleak for colligwoods if any of five other contenders wins this year.

This is quite likely
Why is that? Collingwood despite having a lot of injuries, and with the exception of Gold Coast or GWS has a very young list going around and yet are top 4 material. Their window is open for the next 3 years minimum
 
The Swans have managed to buck the trend, but everyone else has followed the pattern.

The Saints aren't challengers IMO, neither are Geelong. The Bulldogs certainly aren't.
 
The Swans have managed to buck the trend, but everyone else has followed the pattern.

The Saints aren't challengers IMO, neither are Geelong. The Bulldogs certainly aren't.

Rubbish, we're clearly at 11.59..... :p
 
I reckon the premiership window is a load of rubbish.

Who would have thought that Adelaide would be a contender. Last year their list looked to lack talent, lack class, and they looked years away.

After one pre-season they are a contender.

Next year, someone will make a similar leap. It always happens. It will be someone unexpected.
 

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