QFA Div 2 North

[Thommo 42]

Could easily go with a Div 1 North & Div 1 South.

Even if QAFL stays as is then it could be 2 x 8 team comps.

Springwood, Alex Hills, Kenmore & Yeronga meet up with the top 4 in Div 2 South, Cooly, Bond, Burleigh, Carrara.

Hinterland, Caloundra, Moreton Bay, Mayne, Sandgate, UQ, Redcliffe, Kedron.

Then balance Div 2 North & South comps

pretty much the setup from 2014/2015?

minus Coorparoo, Noosa and Maroochydore

 

[Gone Akers]

pretty much the setup from 2014/2015?

minus Coorparoo, Noosa and Maroochydore

Didn’t they get rid of this due to no team wanting to play in the north comp? Went down to 6 teams. History repeating.

 

[LaggingBehind]

Didn’t they get rid of this due to no team wanting to play in the north comp? Went down to 6 teams. History repeating.

Fair point but not completely the same. A few things have changed in the footy landscape since then. At that time Maroochydore, Noosa & Mayne were a massive step up on all others. 2 of those now up into QAFL.

 

[smy1305]

Good analysis.
My summary is
(1) too many in QAFL,
(2) not enough in Division 1,
(3) probably too many in Division 2 North.
(4) the perennial top 4 in Division 2 South arent spoken about with Div 1 because they’d be adding a heap of travel.

Agree

 

[smy1305]

Redcliffe will be fine travel wise. Won both ressies and seniors and multiple previous prelims. Coach has connections at Grange, Coops and Redcliffe. Fresh new facilities.

Needs to go up for the sake of the north comp as most likely 13 or 14 teams next year is a ludicrous number in any comp.

Redcliffe plus 2 GC go up will help the issue of no GC teams in Div 1. Also would make 10. Which would help mitigate the issue of the last GC team in Div 1 with Travel. No Maroocy or Noosa but Caloundra and Hinterland take their place (just not in terms of the old domination the other two had) and a bit closer.

But in the end it’s left up to the clubs on whether they want to move up or not. Definitely need GC presence in Div 1 at the very least.

Only Hinterland would have been added since the last time GC sides were in Div 1 - Caloundra has always been there.

 

[smy1305]

What’s the incentive to move to division 1? The GC clubs will never move they love there little comp where bond,Burleigh and Cooly only ever win.

Yea can understand Cooly as they are getting back on their feet but especially Bond - I mean wtf? If they still have PTSD from their time in 2017-2019 then it's a bit sad.

 

[sportsfan123]

Didn’t they get rid of this due to no team wanting to play in the north comp? Went down to 6 teams. History repeating.

You’ve been quiet on here for a bit. What’s happening down at Rob Akers?

Another successful year back in Div 2. Well done

How is 2026 shaping up?

 

[Gone Akers]

You’ve been quiet on here for a bit. What’s happening down at Rob Akers?

Another successful year back in Div 2. Well done

How is 2026 shaping up?

Yeah I forgot my password. Was a good year down at the pond. Made finals 2 years in a row now, just need to take the next step. I think we punch above our own weight. It’s a tough gig to recruit with so many clubs in the area. But we’re starting to get players from down the road that aren’t up to QAFL level. Also had a U17 team this year. So let’s bring on 2026

 

[stilloutandabout]

I think if aflq don't get 10 teams in div one a complete reshape of three comps into two might happen. I know they want 10.
Ipswich Moorooka would make 28.
That's 14 in each comp with only 16 games so it's just two you play twice.
Not ideal but make it a local draw for those games.
Eight home games a few close to home but some travel every now and then.
Top 8 in each to give everyone a chance at finals.
Just not sure how long they are willing to have a reduced div one.

 

[freddyfudrucker]

They’d need to grow a spine first

 

[Toucan Soup]

stilloutandabout Sounds like they're pushing for North/South competitions.
This is just my own personal view - but I think geographically-based competitions are lousy options.
I can see it being an appropriate arrangement for Div 2 and 3. However, if the aim is to establish a competitive division that can underpin the QAFL comp, whilst preparing participating clubs for the prospect of potential promotion later, then I feel Div 1 needs to be structured on ability rather than location.

Generally, I agree with what others have said earlier:

• 13 clubs in QAFL is too many
• 10 in Div 1 is ideal
• Its difficult to persuade clubs to take the step up (Sandgate deserves credit for making the move)
• Moving up to Div 1 is not automatically more attractive (or viable) than remaining in Div 2 for some/many clubs
• Automatic promotion/relegation is not necessarily a genuine solution
• If no-one makes the move voluntarily, or cannot be convinced, perhaps all clubs get lumped in together in some manner

 

[LaggingBehind]

stilloutandabout Sounds like they're pushing for North/South competitions.
This is just my own personal view - but I think geographically-based competitions are lousy options.
I can see it being an appropriate arrangement for Div 2 and 3. However, if the aim is to establish a competitive division that can underpin the QAFL comp, whilst preparing participating clubs for the prospect of potential promotion later, then I feel Div 1 needs to be structured on ability rather than location.

Generally, I agree with what others have said earlier:

• 13 clubs in QAFL is too many
• 10 in Div 1 is ideal
• Its difficult to persuade clubs to take the step up (Sandgate deserves credit for making the move)
• Moving up to Div 1 is not automatically more attractive (or viable) than remaining in Div 2 for some/many clubs
• Automatic promotion/relegation is not necessarily a genuine solution
• If no-one makes the move voluntarily, or cannot be convinced, perhaps all clubs get lumped in together in some manner

Good thoughts as usual Toucan.

However with the state league proposition diluted by 3 too many QAFL clubs right now the importance of Div 1 providing the next QAFL proposition is not necessarily a priority. I’d be interested if the 2 Grand Finalists, Mayne & Springwood have any interest at all in QAFL entry.

Having 13 QAFL clubs and then 7 in Div 1 is purely a competition structure issue and that surely has to sit with the governing body to address and provide solutions with some collaboration but also with some leadership and decisive strategies and pathways. The problem they have is that they’ve let it run its course and it’s becoming difficult to address.

 

[smy1305]

Good thoughts as usual Toucan.

However with the state league proposition diluted by 3 too many QAFL clubs right now the importance of Div 1 providing the next QAFL proposition is not necessarily a priority. I’d be interested if the 2 Grand Finalists, Mayne & Springwood have any interest at all in QAFL entry.

Having 13 QAFL clubs and then 7 in Div 1 is purely a competition structure issue and that surely has to sit with the governing body to address and provide solutions with some collaboration but also with some leadership and decisive strategies and pathways. The problem they have is that they’ve let it run its course and it’s becoming difficult to address.

Agree - bizarrely MB probably have the greatest aspirations of any Div 1 club - imo they are miles off and the last thing QAFL needs is another club no matter what part of SEQ they come from.
No way should Div 1 be geographical - it needs to underpin QAFL football. if there was a way of reducing back to 10 tomorrow I think the powers would do so but their hands are tied now unless they just suddenly become autocratic in their decision making.
I've always like promotion / relegation systems despite the fact it isn't a perfect solution to competitiveness but at least it does away with leaving very subjective decisions to administrators who may not even be present 2 years later...

 

[smy1305]

stilloutandabout Sounds like they're pushing for North/South competitions.
This is just my own personal view - but I think geographically-based competitions are lousy options.
I can see it being an appropriate arrangement for Div 2 and 3. However, if the aim is to establish a competitive division that can underpin the QAFL comp, whilst preparing participating clubs for the prospect of potential promotion later, then I feel Div 1 needs to be structured on ability rather than location.

Generally, I agree with what others have said earlier:

• 13 clubs in QAFL is too many
• 10 in Div 1 is ideal
• Its difficult to persuade clubs to take the step up (Sandgate deserves credit for making the move)
• Moving up to Div 1 is not automatically more attractive (or viable) than remaining in Div 2 for some/many clubs
• Automatic promotion/relegation is not necessarily a genuine solution
• If no-one makes the move voluntarily, or cannot be convinced, perhaps all clubs get lumped in together in some manner

Good article on your good self (pretty sure I know your alias... ) a few weeks back too mate regarding the Lions journey. Enjoyed reading it..

 

[freddyfudrucker]

Promotion and relegation is complete dog sht

 

[HasBeen69]

Promotion and relegation is complete dog sht

Agreed
More chance of promotion and relegation actually crippling clubs as opposed to helping them - step up from each division is huge and if you force a club to go up it may drive players/coaches away And could end up like beenleigh or wynumm
Cooparoo wanted to go QAFL and planned it for years before doing it

I believe that a promotion relegation would see many more players constantly changing teams

 

[LaggingBehind]

Agreed
More chance of promotion and relegation actually crippling clubs as opposed to helping them - step up from each division is huge and if you force a club to go up it may drive players/coaches away And could end up like beenleigh or wynumm
Cooparoo wanted to go QAFL and planned it for years before doing it

I believe that a promotion relegation would see many more players constantly changing teams

Fair points. What’s the best way to arrange the divisional split?

 

[smy1305]

Agreed
More chance of promotion and relegation actually crippling clubs as opposed to helping them - step up from each division is huge and if you force a club to go up it may drive players/coaches away And could end up like beenleigh or wynumm
Cooparoo wanted to go QAFL and planned it for years before doing it

I believe that a promotion relegation would see many more players constantly changing teams

Possibly the teams that go up and down, agree but it works very well in many other competitions in Australia. Much better than just saying yes to clubs that request a promotion. Coops would have ended up in QAFL in any case with this system and we wouldn't be discussing whether Mt Gravatt should / should not remain in QAFL based upon some historical element...
So would Maroochydore and Noosa but at the expense of whoever was the weakest club at that point in time.
Bond dropping back to Div 2 didn't hurt their stocks nor has it Burleigh.
Beenleigh made a GF in Div1 2 years ago.. going up wasn't the reason they have regressed I'd suggest

 

[Footyboy2020]

Good thoughts as usual Toucan.

However with the state league proposition diluted by 3 too many QAFL clubs right now the importance of Div 1 providing the next QAFL proposition is not necessarily a priority. I’d be interested if the 2 Grand Finalists, Mayne & Springwood have any interest at all in QAFL entry.

Having 13 QAFL clubs and then 7 in Div 1 is purely a competition structure issue and that surely has to sit with the governing body to address and provide solutions with some collaboration but also with some leadership and decisive strategies and pathways. The problem they have is that they’ve let it run its course and it’s becoming difficult to address.

I could almost guarantee that neither Springwood or Mayne would have any QAFL interest. Funnily enough I think the only QAFL interest you would find in Div 1 would probably be Moreton bay as they would be the most ready everywhere excluding on field performance.

 

[Gone Akers]

This north/south division’s have run its course. If they keep it the same. We will be travelling from Gympie to yarabilba. Where ever the hell that is. Time for change.

 

[Footyboy2020]

I think part of the problem for the Gold Coast teams as well not coming up to Div 1 is if you look at the performances of recent state it’s been the same 3 that have been at the top for a while now in Bond, Burleigh & Cooly now with Carrara getting better also. If you move 2 of those teams into Div 1 along with Redcliffe you probably just lock the grand final in for the south comp with the 2 teams as above and that probably turns into a 6 team comp also.

 

[Footyboy2020]

This north/south division’s have run its course. If they keep it the same. We will be travelling from Gympie to yarabilba. Where ever the hell that is. Time for change.

You’d think surely with “Logan city” now being in yarrabilba they have to go south comp surely, it’s another 20 mins south of park ridge

 

[Footyboy2020]

Possibly the teams that go up and down, agree but it works very well in many other competitions in Australia. Much better than just saying yes to clubs that request a promotion. Coops would have ended up in QAFL in any case with this system and we wouldn't be discussing whether Mt Gravatt should / should not remain in QAFL based upon some historical element...
So would Maroochydore and Noosa but at the expense of whoever was the weakest club at that point in time.
Bond dropping back to Div 2 didn't hurt their stocks nor has it Burleigh.
Beenleigh made a GF in Div1 2 years ago.. going up wasn't the reason they have regressed I'd suggest

It almost already seems locked in that mt Gravatt will be QAFL again next year which just seems unfathomable to me considering that situation there. You’d think that Maroochydore and Noosa have to be in the same comp just cause of the rivalry and revenue the two make when they play each other.

 

[freddyfudrucker]

The only reason we have the problems we have is a lack of leadership. Don’t let clubs decide if they’re north or south. It’s not like Gympie gets a choice so why should others?

Get rid of names too. Div 2 South becomes the GC and dare I say Logan Community Footy Comp or the like.

Div 2 North is the Greater Brisbane Community Comp but ffs apply some common sense in groupings of clubs.

Div 1 someone more creative than me I’m sure can find a name. Doesn’t need GC clubs in it. Wouldn’t be popular for existing clubs to travel or for GC clubs to come in.

 

[Wardy09]

The North/South split has always perplexed me. I played for Redcliffe and over the years we played in different divisions playing Surfers, Carrara, Coomera, Beenleigh, Logan, Robina, Caloundra, Gympie. As with most clubs, we travelled well, 2 teams.
My question is "are we pandering to clubs for travel over competitiveness?" Or is it a League push?
QAFL - Best 10 or 12 teams
QFA Div 1 - next 10 best teams
QFA Div 2 - next 10 best teams
And so on
Edit: this includes MB, Hinterland, Yeronga , Coorparoo, Wynnum, Toowoomba, Calamvale, Park Ridge, Yeronga, UQ, RAAF, Ipswich, Pine Rivers, Kedron, Alex Hills etc...