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Indeed. And we should have won it in a canter. But we fluffed it.
Where do you think it went wrong in 2014 out of interest? Do you think it was the soft run leading into and throughout finals that didn't prepare the team well for a high intensity and physical game?
 
Where do you think it went wrong in 2014 out of interest? Do you think it was the soft run leading into and throughout finals that didn't prepare the team well for a high intensity and physical game?
Soft run in for sure. Hawks had to fight in each game whereas the Swans had it pretty easy leading into the finals and comfortable wins against Fremantle and North. It was a concern on our board that North didn't even challenge us.
 
Soft run in for sure. Hawks had to fight in each game whereas the Swans had it pretty easy leading into the finals and comfortable wins against Fremantle and North. It was a concern on our board that North didn't even challenge us.
Are you concerned then that should GWS not put up a big fight that you'll go into a PF late September having played only one tough game (North in Tassie) since July and having only played 1 game at all since August? Far from even adequate preparation should you meet Hawthorn or Geelong in that PF.
 
Are you concerned then that should GWS not put up a big fight that you'll go into a PF late September having played only one tough game (North in Tassie) since July and having only played 1 game at all since August? Far from even adequate preparation should you meet Hawthorn or Geelong in that PF.

Not really. St Kilda challenged and while Richmond were awful, Sydney utterly dominated them. It's a tough game this weekend so I don't think that we'll see the Swans getting anther soft run these finals
 

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Are Brisbane one of the worst squiggle teams to not win the spoon?
Good question. Firstly, Brisbane clearly have the 2nd-weakest defence of all teams since 1995, which is as far back as I can be bothered looking, pipped only by GWS 2013. The Giants went 1-21 at 51.0% that year, letting through 2,990 Points Against, compared to Brisbane this year 3-19 at 61.6%, letting through 2,872 Points Against.

But GWS 2013 won the spoon. My mind immediately went to Melbourne 2013, who are far and away the most horrendously bad team not to win the spoon of the modern era. And sure enough, while Brisbane has a better attack, Melbourne 2013 were all-around worse. And it's not even close. Melbourne 2013 get far too little credit for badness. They went 2-20 at 54.1%.

Brisbane are also better than wooden spooners GWS 2012, Melbourne 2008, and Fitzroy 1996. But those are the only teams since 1995.

So the Lions are the 2nd-worst team not to win the spoon in the last two decades.

Edit: Wait! I tell a lie. Brisbane are ever-so-slightly better than Port Adelaide 2011, who went 3-19 at 64.5% and finished second-bottom, above Gold Coast in their first year.

The Lions are also a little ahead of wooden spooners Fitzroy 1995, Carlton 2006, Melbourne 2008, and Gold Coast 2011.

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FAO Final Siren

Apologies for my ignorance, I only check in on this thread from time to time so am not completely au fait with the mechanics behind it.

In respect to the squiggle flagpole, it appears after round 23 West Coast have risen above Hawthorn, however your finals projections have Hawthorn defeating West Coast in week 2. Can you perhaps breakdown how this is possible? Does the squiggle flagpole run independent of finals match-ups?
 
Boring Squiggle predictions.

1 beats 4; 2 beats 3; 5 beats 8; 6 beats 7
4 beats 5; 3 beats 6
1 beats 3; 2 beats 4
1 beats 2

I, with no hidden agenda, call for a few upsets to shake the season up.
Recipe for success: Pick all the favourites and predict a few upsets without saying which they'll be!

Your challenge for this finals series is to beat HOMER, the algorithm that always picks home teams.
 

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Final siren - what are the probabilities for the finals results? It's not necessary to count partial wins any more, but it's still interesting to see what the squiggle thinks chances of an upset are.
Sydney by 10 over GWS: 61.5% win likelihood
Geelong by 20 over Hawthorn: 70.2%
Adelaide by 32 over North: 79.4%
West Coast by 27 over Bulldogs: 76.1%

These are a fair bit more emphatic than you usually see in finals week 1.
 
Recipe for success: Pick all the favourites and predict a few upsets without saying which they'll be!

Your challenge for this finals series is to beat HOMER, the algorithm that always picks home teams.

My challenge for the final series is the same as most years, to not cry or break things.
 
Sydney by 10 over GWS: 61.5% win likelihood
Geelong by 20 over Hawthorn: 70.2%
Adelaide by 32 over North: 79.4%
West Coast by 27 over Bulldogs: 76.1%

These are a fair bit more emphatic than you usually see in finals week 1.
Surprised that the Swans are only 9 point favourites considering their form, scores, attacking position and defensive position are all (in some ways vastly) superior to GWS.

I'd like to know what the form predictor says rather than ISTATE-92 which you've said before can be a better predictor in finals.
 

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