Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[Snake_Baker]

I'm no Trump fan but I certainly wouldn't be betting against him this November. To do so would be to underestimate the stupidity of Americans. A dangerous strategy at the best of times.

Stupidity wins either way.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Wait K4E is gone??
thats bullshit, wealth of knowledge that guy.

Probably got sick of all the woke hysterics dumbing down the forum to kindergarten level.

..............or Chadwiko successfully snitched him out to admin.

 

[DesertRoo]

if true, this is as sick about as it gets..

Federal authorities in New York on Wednesday seized a shipment of weaves and other beauty accessories suspected to be made out of human hair taken from people locked inside a Chinese internment camp.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials told The Associated Press that 13 tons (11.8 metric tonnes) of hair products worth an estimated $800,000 were in the shipment.

“The production of these goods constitutes a very serious human rights violation, and the detention order is intended to send a clear and direct message to all entities seeking to do business with the United States that illicit and inhumane practices will not be tolerated in U.S. supply chains,” said Brenda Smith, executive assistant commissioner of CBP’s Office of Trade.
This is the second time this year that CBP has slapped one of its rare detention orders on shipments of hair weaves from China, based on suspicions that people making them face human rights abuses. The orders are used to hold shipping containers at the U.S. ports of entry until the agency can investigate claims of wrongdoing.
Rushan Abbas, a Uighur American activist whose sister, a medical doctor, went missing in China almost two years ago and is believed to be locked in a detention camp, said women who use hair weaves should think about who might be making them.

“This is so heartbreaking for us,” she said. “I want people to think about the slavery people are experiencing today. My sister is sitting somewhere being forced to make what, hair pieces?”


Wednesday’s shipment was made by Lop County Meixin Hair Product Co. Ltd. In May, a similar detention was placed on Hetian Haolin Hair Accessories Co. Ltd., although those weaves were synthetic, not human, the agency said. Hetian Haolin’s products were imported by Os Hair in Duluth, Georgia, and I & I Hair, headquartered in Dallas. I & I’s weaves are sold under the Innocence brand to salons and individuals around the U.S.

Both of the exporters are in China’s far west Xinjiang region, where, over the past four years, the government has detained an estimated 1 million or more ethnic Turkic minorities.

The ethnic minorities are held in internment camps and prisons where they are subjected to ideological discipline, forced to denounce their religion and language and physically abused. China has long suspected the Uighurs, who are mostly Muslim, of harboring separatist tendencies because of their distinct culture, language and religion.
Reports by the AP and other news organizations have repeatedly found that people inside the internment camps and prisons, which activists call “black factories,” are making sportswear and other apparel for popular U.S. brands.

The AP tried to visit Hetian Haolin Hair Accessories Co. more than a year ago during an investigation into forced labor inside the camps. But police called the cab driver taking AP journalists to the area, ordering the driver to turn back and warning that the cab’s coordinates were being tracked.

From the road, it was clear the factory — topped with “Haolin Hair Accessories” in big red letters — was ringed with barbed wire fencing and surveillance cameras, and the entrance was blocked by helmeted police. Across the street, what appeared to be an educational facility was topped with political slogans declaring “the country has power” and urging people to obey the Communist Party. It was unclear whether the factory was part of a detention center, but former detainees in other parts of Xinjiang have described being shuttled to work in fenced, guarded compounds during the day and taken back to internment camps at night.

The Chinese Ministry of Affairs has said there is no forced labor, nor detention of ethnic minorities.

“We hope that certain people in the United States can take off their tinted glasses, correctly understand and objectively and rationally view normal economic and trade cooperation between Chinese and American enterprises,” the ministry said in a statement.

Last December, Xinjiang authorities announced that the camps had closed and all the detainees had “graduated,” a claim difficult to corroborate independently given tight surveillance and restrictions on reporting in the region. Some Uighurs and Kazakhs have told the AP that their relatives have been released, but many others say their loved ones remain in detention, were sentenced to prison or transferred to forced labor in factories.

While tariffs and embargoes over political issues are fairly common, it’s extremely rare for the U.S. government to block imports produced by forced labor.
The 1930 Tariff Act prohibited those imports, but the government has only enforced the law 54 times in the past 90 years. Most of those bans, 75%, blocked goods from China, and enforcement has ramped up since then-President Barack Obama strengthened the lawin 2016.

Rep. Chris Smith said that while the allegations of forced labor are appalling, “sadly they are not surprising.”

“It is likely that many slave labor products continue to surreptitiously make it into our stores,” said Smith, a New Jersey Republican who has taken a lead on anti-human trafficking legislation.

On June 17, President Donald Trump signed the bipartisan Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act of 2020, condemning “gross human rights violations of specified ethnic Muslim minority groups in the Xinjiang region in China.”

Earlier, calling for its passage, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi decried what she described as China’s mass incarceration, forced sterilization and journalist suppression.

“Beijing’s barbarous actions targeting the Uyghur people are an outrage to the collective conscience of the world,” she said in a statement.

AP Exclusive: Hair weaves from Chinese prison camps seized

Federal authorities in New York on Wednesday seized a shipment of weaves and other beauty accessories suspected to be made out of human hair taken from people locked inside a Chinese internment camp.

apnews.com

 

[Snake_Baker]

if true, this is as sick about as it gets..

AP Exclusive: Hair weaves from Chinese prison camps seized

Federal authorities in New York on Wednesday seized a shipment of weaves and other beauty accessories suspected to be made out of human hair taken from people locked inside a Chinese internment camp.

apnews.com

It's bordering on Auschwitz style.

However, it is tabloid journalism.

 

[DesertRoo]

It's bordering on Auschwitz style.

However, it is tabloid journalism.

It’s from AP, probably up there with the most trusted sources, and some of the stuff I’ve seen from Xinjiang leads me to believe it could 100% be true..

but at the same time, I understand the time we’re in so it could be propaganda..
But evil

 

[Gasometer]

How do you cancel an account? Do you write to the Chief guy? And if you’re cancelled do your posts disappear or is that another email to the Chief guy?

 

[Hojuman]

Pell just told the Catholic World Report, " financial corruption can pose a greater risk to clergy than sexual misconduct "

Yep, after the Child Abuse Royal Commission, that's what he just said.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Anyone/mods... Any idea what's up with K4e? His profile reads "Cancelled".

I’ve had a chat with him and he’s in need of a break from here. Hoping he returns.

 

[DesertRoo]

Maxwell charged....

Jeffrey Epstein’s confidant Ghislaine Maxwell arrested in New Hampshire, FBI says

Jeffrey Epstein’s confidant Ghislaine Maxwell appeared virtually before a federal magistrate Thursday afternoon and waived her right to a detention hearing in New Hampshire, clearing the way for her transfer to New York, where she is expected to be temporarily detained.

www.foxnews.com

 

[goalieboy82]

i will lighten up the mood here minute (NSFW sort of)

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Maxwell charged....

Jeffrey Epstein’s confidant Ghislaine Maxwell arrested in New Hampshire, FBI says

Jeffrey Epstein’s confidant Ghislaine Maxwell appeared virtually before a federal magistrate Thursday afternoon and waived her right to a detention hearing in New Hampshire, clearing the way for her transfer to New York, where she is expected to be temporarily detained.

www.foxnews.com

How long until she "commits suicide"?

 

[Flawed Genius]

How long until she "commits suicide"?

Was my first thought also. How do you keep her alive long enough for her to testify

 

[bengrina]

Was my first thought also. How do you keep her alive long enough for her to testify

If she was going to get knocked why haven't they done it already? I personally don't believe Epstein was murdered. Surely if that was the case Maxwell would have said that if anything happens to me , that she'd release whatever information she has ?

 

[Snake_Baker]

If she was going to get knocked why haven't they done it already? I personally don't believe Epstein was murdered. Surely if that was the case Maxwell would have said that if anything happens to me , that she'd release whatever information she has ?

You are naive to the Machiavellian ways of true power.

How do you know that she hasn't been arrested and isolated in order for her to be investigated as to the extent of what she knows in order to mitigate damage to powerful people?

Do you think what happened to Carl Williams was just a coincidence as far as Paul Dale is concerned? The random disappearance of David Prideax was also just another related coincidence?

 

[Only Forwards]

if true, this is as sick about as it gets..

Federal authorities in New York on Wednesday seized a shipment of weaves and other beauty accessories suspected to be made out of human hair taken from people locked inside a Chinese internment camp.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials told The Associated Press that 13 tons (11.8 metric tonnes) of hair products worth an estimated $800,000 were in the shipment.

“The production of these goods constitutes a very serious human rights violation, and the detention order is intended to send a clear and direct message to all entities seeking to do business with the United States that illicit and inhumane practices will not be tolerated in U.S. supply chains,” said Brenda Smith, executive assistant commissioner of CBP’s Office of Trade.
This is the second time this year that CBP has slapped one of its rare detention orders on shipments of hair weaves from China, based on suspicions that people making them face human rights abuses. The orders are used to hold shipping containers at the U.S. ports of entry until the agency can investigate claims of wrongdoing.
Rushan Abbas, a Uighur American activist whose sister, a medical doctor, went missing in China almost two years ago and is believed to be locked in a detention camp, said women who use hair weaves should think about who might be making them.

“This is so heartbreaking for us,” she said. “I want people to think about the slavery people are experiencing today. My sister is sitting somewhere being forced to make what, hair pieces?”


Wednesday’s shipment was made by Lop County Meixin Hair Product Co. Ltd. In May, a similar detention was placed on Hetian Haolin Hair Accessories Co. Ltd., although those weaves were synthetic, not human, the agency said. Hetian Haolin’s products were imported by Os Hair in Duluth, Georgia, and I & I Hair, headquartered in Dallas. I & I’s weaves are sold under the Innocence brand to salons and individuals around the U.S.

Both of the exporters are in China’s far west Xinjiang region, where, over the past four years, the government has detained an estimated 1 million or more ethnic Turkic minorities.

The ethnic minorities are held in internment camps and prisons where they are subjected to ideological discipline, forced to denounce their religion and language and physically abused. China has long suspected the Uighurs, who are mostly Muslim, of harboring separatist tendencies because of their distinct culture, language and religion.
Reports by the AP and other news organizations have repeatedly found that people inside the internment camps and prisons, which activists call “black factories,” are making sportswear and other apparel for popular U.S. brands.

The AP tried to visit Hetian Haolin Hair Accessories Co. more than a year ago during an investigation into forced labor inside the camps. But police called the cab driver taking AP journalists to the area, ordering the driver to turn back and warning that the cab’s coordinates were being tracked.

From the road, it was clear the factory — topped with “Haolin Hair Accessories” in big red letters — was ringed with barbed wire fencing and surveillance cameras, and the entrance was blocked by helmeted police. Across the street, what appeared to be an educational facility was topped with political slogans declaring “the country has power” and urging people to obey the Communist Party. It was unclear whether the factory was part of a detention center, but former detainees in other parts of Xinjiang have described being shuttled to work in fenced, guarded compounds during the day and taken back to internment camps at night.

The Chinese Ministry of Affairs has said there is no forced labor, nor detention of ethnic minorities.

“We hope that certain people in the United States can take off their tinted glasses, correctly understand and objectively and rationally view normal economic and trade cooperation between Chinese and American enterprises,” the ministry said in a statement.

Last December, Xinjiang authorities announced that the camps had closed and all the detainees had “graduated,” a claim difficult to corroborate independently given tight surveillance and restrictions on reporting in the region. Some Uighurs and Kazakhs have told the AP that their relatives have been released, but many others say their loved ones remain in detention, were sentenced to prison or transferred to forced labor in factories.

While tariffs and embargoes over political issues are fairly common, it’s extremely rare for the U.S. government to block imports produced by forced labor.
The 1930 Tariff Act prohibited those imports, but the government has only enforced the law 54 times in the past 90 years. Most of those bans, 75%, blocked goods from China, and enforcement has ramped up since then-President Barack Obama strengthened the lawin 2016.

Rep. Chris Smith said that while the allegations of forced labor are appalling, “sadly they are not surprising.”

“It is likely that many slave labor products continue to surreptitiously make it into our stores,” said Smith, a New Jersey Republican who has taken a lead on anti-human trafficking legislation.

On June 17, President Donald Trump signed the bipartisan Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act of 2020, condemning “gross human rights violations of specified ethnic Muslim minority groups in the Xinjiang region in China.”

Earlier, calling for its passage, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi decried what she described as China’s mass incarceration, forced sterilization and journalist suppression.

“Beijing’s barbarous actions targeting the Uyghur people are an outrage to the collective conscience of the world,” she said in a statement.

AP Exclusive: Hair weaves from Chinese prison camps seized

Federal authorities in New York on Wednesday seized a shipment of weaves and other beauty accessories suspected to be made out of human hair taken from people locked inside a Chinese internment camp.

apnews.com

I'd just about guarantee that every poster on here has a product/s where at somepoint in the supply chain there are slaves.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I'd just about guarantee that every poster on here has a product/s where at somepoint in the supply chain there are slaves.

You would think this would be an issue for the ALP.

 

[Only Forwards]

You would think this would be an issue for the ALP.

I don't get the specific connection but sure.

I think it'll generally fall into the category of too much work to find out the absolute specifics on every supply chain for every product.

I mean within Australia we don't even have a grasp on the sex slavery within rug and tug shopfronts.

I highly doubt we're ensuring that the cobalt within an electronic product ordered online and shipped individually was mined ethically. Our entire government does not have the resources for that.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I don't get the specific connection but sure.

I'm referring to how the ALP has been infiltrated, lost touch with the real issues, and betrayed the true working/under class.

 

[Hojuman]

Prince Andrew; " Ghislaine did you say ? Is that how it is spelt ? I think l would remember someone with such a strange name as that, so, no, l cannot recall him "

 

[Only Forwards]

I'm referring to how the ALP has been infiltrated, lost touch with the real issues, and betrayed the true working/under class.

Not really wanting to take the conversation further down this rabbit hole but it seems a touch tangenty for the context to be hair stolen from people in concentration camps in China to slavery within supply chain to wind up at the disconnect within an Australian political party and the people.

Politicians have power and power corrupts.

On to the actual matter of slavery, as I said I think it broadly sits in the too hard basket. Politicians barely do things for those with a voice let alone those without.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

That’s her on the right.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTTV5_AJX94QVfdSdXv3ojPAe-BiLEtOc7d9g&usqp=CAU

 

[DesertRoo]

I'd just about guarantee that every poster on here has a product/s where at somepoint in the supply chain there are slaves.

Slavery is wrong and evil but to sell body parts of these same people on the black market, there’s a special place in hell reserved for you.

 

[Only Forwards]

Slavery is wrong and evil but to sell body parts of these same people on the black market, there’s a special place in hell reserved for you.

I don't believe in Hell so where do we go now?

Selling peoples hair is dehumanizing, but surely so is sex slavery?
I'm not sure there is a spectrum of evil here, there's just evil.

 

[goalieboy82]

 

[DesertRoo]

I don't believe in Hell so where do we go now?

Selling peoples hair is dehumanizing, but surely so is sex slavery?
I'm not sure there is a spectrum of evil here, there's just evil.

warning pretty graphic, but the hair comes from somewhere, and the story certainly isn’t over...