Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Netflix dumping Chris Lilley shows prompts ABC 'harm and offence' audit

When even staunch lefties are aghast (see reader comments), there is no reason left to continue publicly funding the ABC. It is little more than a political propagandist.

No.

It’s the most reliable media we have. Those who want it gone are political.

 

[Ron The Bear]

No.

It’s the most reliable media we have. Those who want it gone are political.

When they are actively supporting and enforcing cultural whitewashing, it's time to go. Everything has a lifetime.

I'm skipping over Ita when I play East in protest.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

When they are actively supporting and enforcing cultural whitewashing, it's time to go. Everything has a lifetime.

I'm skipping over Ita when I play East in protest.

The libs won’t get rid of it. They’ll need it for when they’re in opposition. They know that no other media holds governments to account.

This Netflix stuff is a sideshow.

 

[koshari]

The libs won’t get rid of it. They’ll need it for when they’re in opposition. They know that no other media holds governments to account.

This Netflix stuff is a sideshow.

Who needs the abc when they have uncle rupert, and ita became immortal when her name was tattooed on chopers ass.

 

[DesertRoo]

Let’s be honest anyone who wants to defund the abc, doesn’t understand the power of the media, sure look at changing the programme content but removing it, means more Americana.

And I’m sure all the rosey coloured glasses have been removed to what their society looks like now. Do we really want to mirror that?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Let’s be honest anyone who wants to defund the abc, doesn’t understand the power of the media, sure look at changing the programme content but removing it, means more Americana.

And I’m sure all the rosey coloured glasses have been removed to what their society looks like now. Do we really want to mirror that?

Yep. Discussions about improving it are welcome. No media looks at itself more critically than the ABC. An independent non commercial broadcaster is essential. The calls to get rid of it come exclusively from the far right who want a culture war at every turn.

 

[DesertRoo]

Yep. Discussions about improving it are welcome. No media looks at itself more critically than the ABC. An independent non commercial broadcaster is essential. The calls to get rid of it come exclusively from the far right who want a culture war at every turn.

Removing the abc is an argument for simpletons, any discussion about the local broadcasters being able to fill the void of decent Australian content got thrown out the window when they decided to fill their quota with Morning/day time talk shows.
The Australian broadcasters are their own worst enemy.

and this isn’t even talking about news content, which seems to get people who shake their fists at clouds up in arms.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Yep. Discussions about improving it are welcome. No media looks at itself more critically than the ABC. An independent non commercial broadcaster is essential. The calls to get rid of it come exclusively from the far right who want a culture war at every turn.

Eh, the war's on and we're being overrun. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Eh, the war's on and we're being overrun. Be careful what you wish for.

We?

 

[DesertRoo]

We?

Watch out ze Germans are coming...

 

[Tas]

I'm not aboriginal but it's an assumption most people make when they meet me. I used to spend a lot of time in country eastern Australia decades as a young man.

That is a surprise, indigenous generally have facial features that make them look different to european descendants when it comes to pure bloods. A friend of mine is 50% Aboriginal and she is a ranga that nobody would ever pick for being indigenous.

The deaths in custody ... It's nothing like it used to be. There are towns I wouldn't have gone to around the time of the royal commission. But not any more.

Yeah, I lived in rural NSW for a few years around the mid 90s, the attitudes were really repulsive back then.

We still have issues with some bad cops, but it was interesting reading the chief of police from Minneapolis say that the largest barrier in terms of getting rid of bad cops are police unions.

But read that report you are talking about properly, compare the numbers and situations in specific cases. I dunno how bad conditions are for most white prisoners tbh but the ones I do know don't have to much trouble with serious medical conditions. Some of the indigenous deaths in custody this century have been due to what I would say was at least negligent, and often racist - as in thinking less of the death prisoners claims cos they are aboriginal - or even malicious denial of medical care. Read about it, I've already posted these details repeatedly on this site.

Some of it is disgraceful.

So yeah whatever you say in terms of data, I don't agree.

This is the major problem when it comes to collectivist positions and empirical data. you can't disagree with data unless you have reason to believe the data has been deliberately manipulated. Unless you think non-indigenous are accident prone, or have a habit of keeling over and dying unexpectedly, higher mortality rates in custody across a large sample sizes is a better indicator of reality than anecdotal experience unless it is a field of expertise.

How many white people were cooked to death in the back of divvy vans during custodial transfers?

How many white prisoners were effectively beaten to death in custody this century? Especially within hours of being arrested for some minor incident that wouldn't even get a look if it was some blonde bogan at the cricket? How does that number compare?

I am guessing nobody knows because nobody gives a shit about non-indigenous deaths in custody.

Compare legal response to the death of K Ryder in Alice Springs to people doing years for one punch attacks, what the judge said about the perpetrators then think about the job he was initially offered a few years ago.

Our court system also needs reform, there is a lack of consistency in sentencing and if you have money, you are likely going to get a much more favourable outcome.

As to that case...

"Ms Ryder said she was satisfied, especially after the family of one of the men came to offer their condolences."
"Mr Ryder's sister-in-law, Karen Liddle, said the family is happy with the sentences but there are no winners."

Sad case, that guy should never had been killed, it is important why attitudes need to change in terms of the general public. Things are much better than they used to be but we have a long way to go.

You wonder why indigenous or other black people feel legal systems are against them. That their lives don't matter. Things like that are why.

The system is against everyone. I'd have zero confidence of getting justice if I was dragged before a court, I do everything humanly possible to ensure I never have to go to one.

 

[Caracas]

That is a surprise, indigenous generally have facial features that make them look different to european descendants when it comes to pure bloods. A friend of mine is 50% Aboriginal and she is a ranga that nobody would ever pick for being indigenous.



Yeah, I lived in rural NSW for a few years around the mid 90s, the attitudes were really repulsive back then.

We still have issues with some bad cops, but it was interesting reading the chief of police from Minneapolis say that the largest barrier in terms of getting rid of bad cops are police unions.



This is the major problem when it comes to collectivist positions and empirical data. you can't disagree with data unless you have reason to believe the data has been deliberately manipulated. Unless you think non-indigenous are accident prone, or have a habit of keeling over and dying unexpectedly, higher mortality rates in custody across a large sample sizes is a better indicator of reality than anecdotal experience unless it is a field of expertise.



I am guessing nobody knows because nobody gives a shit about non-indigenous deaths in custody.



Our court system also needs reform, there is a lack of consistency in sentencing and if you have money, you are likely going to get a much more favourable outcome.

As to that case...

"Ms Ryder said she was satisfied, especially after the family of one of the men came to offer their condolences."
"Mr Ryder's sister-in-law, Karen Liddle, said the family is happy with the sentences but there are no winners."

Sad case, that guy should never had been killed, it is important why attitudes need to change in terms of the general public. Things are much better than they used to be but we have a long way to go.



The system is against everyone. I'd have zero confidence of getting justice if I was dragged before a court, I do everything humanly possible to ensure I never have to go to one.

I don’t believe it’s true to say that the system is against everyone. The vast majority of people get the benefit of the doubt. There’s is a reason BLM exists while Accountants Lives Matters doesn’t.


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[Snake_Baker]

Watch out ze Germans are coming...

They stand no chance against PC outrage.

 

[Snake_Baker]

A sane man in a world losing it's mind.

 

[Tas]

I don’t believe it’s true to say that the system is against everyone.

Of course it is, the system is a set of rules and if you are in court then you are not playing by the rules, or are accused of it at least. Anyone's ability to weasel out of a conviction is less about guilt or innocence and more about how much you can afford to stay out of prison.

I know of someone who committed a crime, first offence, due to mental/psychological illness that he was being treated for. The police didn't recommend a jail sentence, the prosecution didn't recommend a jail sentence and the victim didn't even pursue for a conviction, they were just required by law to report the incident. He ended up in jail because he had a crappy lawyer provided by the state.

The vast majority of people get the benefit of the doubt.

That is naive. Lawyers will tell you NEVER to speak to police without a lawyer present, even innocent people had got themselves convicted just talking to the police believing they had nothing to hide.

There’s is a reason BLM exists while Accountants Lives Matters doesn’t.

Accountants are expendable, so nobody is going to riot over a bean counter being abused or killed. Accountants, Lawyers and Politicians are the axis of evil, anything shit that happens on a grand scale usually involves these three professions.

On a serious note, if I ever found myself in trouble I wouldn't resist arrest, I wouldn't talk to the police (let alone be abusive towards them) and I would get the best lawyer I could afford. It is probably why we don't see a lot of dead bean counters.

 

[Tarka_Dal]

Removing the abc is an argument for simpletons, any discussion about the local broadcasters being able to fill the void of decent Australian content got thrown out the window when they decided to fill their quota with Morning/day time talk shows.
The Australian broadcasters are their own worst enemy.

and this isn’t even talking about news content, which seems to get people who shake their fists at clouds up in arms.

Keep the news/media, political analysis, current affairs, and other related content. Cull anything that falls into the 'entertainment' bracket.

 

[ferball]

Keep the news/media, political analysis, current affairs, and other related content. Cull anything that falls into the 'entertainment' bracket.

Abc kids entertainment is shit tons better than commercial networks.

**** with Bluey and we'll be coming for you.

 

[The Other Dean]

Yeah. They are rioting because of political correctness.

JFC

From a short interview with Chomsky last week.....

Professor Chomsky, what’s going on in the United States? Is there something deeper behind the protests against racism and abuse of power by white policemen?

"What is deeper is 400 years of brutal repression: first, the most vicious system of slavery in human history, which provided much of the basis for the economic growth and prosperity of the US (and England); then 10 years of freedom in which blacks could enter the society, and did so with remarkable success; then a North-South compact which effectively granted the former slave states the authority to do as they liked. What they did was to criminalize black life, creating "Slavery By Another Name", the title of one of the major books on the topic.

That lasted virtually until World War II, when labor was needed. Then came a period of relative freedom, hindered by racist laws so extreme that the Nazis rejected them and federal laws requiring segregation in the government-funded housing that was built after the war – and of course blacks (and women) were excluded from the free higher education provided to veterans. Then came another wave of criminalization of black life.

The residue can be imagined. The racism persists, though it is less rampant than before. And when it manifests itself, as in the Floyd murder, there is naturally an explosion – joined in this case by much of the white population, a reflection of progress among some parts of the population in overcoming this hideous curse."

You cited the “criminalization of black life,” which you have often spoken about in your books. Can you explain briefly how it has acted and continues to act in American society and its economy?

"I can’t take credit for the phrase. It is commonly used in studies of American society. In the former slave states in the late 19th century it was deliberate policy. If a black man was standing on the street, he could be arrested for vagrancy, given a fine he couldn’t pay, and sent off to prison – where he could be provided to businesses as a perfect worker: disciplined, no protests, cheap. That was a major contribution to the manufacturing revolution of the time, as well as to agribusiness.

The second wave of criminalization took off with Ronald Reagan. In 1980, when he took office, incarceration rates were within the European range. Since then they have exploded, far beyond Europe. Those imprisoned are disproportionately black. That is partially the result of the drug war, and is partially traceable to greater crime among blacks. The latter fact is sometimes adduced in racist apologetics, suppressing the question of why crime is greater among blacks. That is typical of oppressed communities. The case of blacks is by far the most severe."

Noam Chomsky: They’re protesting 400 years of brutal repression

We spoke with Noam Chomsky to understand the current moment in America. ‘The racism persists, though it is less rampant than before. And when it manifests itself, as in the Floyd murder, there is naturally an explosion.’

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[goalieboy82]

Watch out ze Germans are coming...

Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

 

[goalieboy82]

Watch out ze Germans are coming...

send these men in:

 

[Snake_Baker]

 

[DesertRoo]

Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

I’m not sure you’re meant to post that here.. And who ever said the Germans don’t have a sense of humour.

 

[goalieboy82]

I’m not sure you’re meant to post that here.. And who ever said the Germans don’t have a sense of humour.

a great way to hold the Germans off.
also:

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Yeah. They are rioting because of political correctness.

JFC

Political correctness is a horrendously misapplied term. The fact a movement has been built on emotion to stop it is a testament to the power of tabloid media.

 

[DesertRoo]

Abc kids entertainment is shit tons better than commercial networks.

fu** with Bluey and we'll be coming for you.

Bluey is the best Australian show in a long long time..