Autopsy Rd 2 vs Hawks - Blues fight but lose due to lack of class and pace ... again

[teddy-hopkins]

At least doc didn't fall over every time he went near the ball for the past 2 games in a row.

Nick Haynes on the other hand... his legs are gone.

Picking Haynes feels like a slap in the face to the supporters he's that bad. He is done.

 

[MckayMagic]

Bringing Young in was a bizarre choice, not adjusting the mix of talls at either end for a quarter was just pure, unmitigated horseshit.

I am so sick of seeing a team that is too tired to do basic running for each other.

What good is winning possession at a stoppage if your only available options are consistently under 2m away and unlikely to be in motion, nor blocking for each other.

Mind-blowingly shit football, because while they're definitely not planning for that, they're absolutely not recognising the personnel issues creating an exhausted and disenfranchised te

Actually didn't mind Young's game. Maybe the coach should actually back him in.

Speaking of backing in, what on earth is going on with the continued selection of Docherty? All respect to Sam but it was an outrageous decision to play him in the final, and he is clearly not up to it anymore based on all 2025 evidence (and still not subbed out).

Voss is an incredibly weak coach. He is a joke.

I agree on Docherty unfortunately but I can’t agree that Young played a good game went to ground extremely easily costing us a couple of goals

 

[Its an amigo!]

Because it doesn’t work with kids with upper management people know 1/10 positive to negative.
They switch off you can go negative but not solely it just doesn’t bring results.
Every game my kids play I give 4-5 positives and 1-2 negatives always positive first makes them more open to the negative.

These guys aren't kids though. They are elite professionals. If they can't handle a spray there is something wront.

 

[GT619]

Effort and intent was better, still too many passengers

Apart from Jsos who worked his arse off, still poor conversion, you could drop the rest of the forward line and not even blink

Now it's time for Voss to make a statement, Kemp, Motlop either not up to it or just not working hard enough. Walsh still with the same bad habits from his junior days, head down and bang it on the boot

I love that Fogarty wants to have a crack, but way off the level

Williams just doesn't do the hard stuff consistently

Lacked speed, and footskills, no surprise really

The loss of jagga is showing. He does what others can’t do

 

[Moon]

Carlton are so far behind the Top teams

We'll be a team battling for position 8 to make up the numbers for a final appearance

Won 2 of our last 11 games. Not much chop is it?

 

[teddy-hopkins]

It is cute that some Carlton supporters think like this. We are not in the finals race. Literally every team has the blueprint to beat us, and there's nothing we can do about it with the current 'coach' at the helm.

Not hard to figure out when you know exactly where we'll kick the ball every time we go inside 50.

 

[Accidental genius]

Kemp has no idea what’s going on. Whether that’s bad positioning /roles or just doesn’t have the smarts..
Ran into sos earlier .. tried to run through a few hawks like playing rugby…

No forward in our f50 has an idea because there is no strategy to how we transition and deliver into f50

That’s where we break down

I know it was only west coast but last year we didn’t have our superstar forwards and the ones we had were leading…and deliverers were looking for best option…we weren’t bombing in blindly

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Carlton have the next Brownlow Medal winning ruckman on their list…
Do whatever you can to keep TDK. Build your side around him.
Best of luck next week

And you guys have the most lethal kick in the comp and you got him for a pack of chips

Good looking brand of footy

 

[Bluebleeder]

Let's face facts - we are not very good - we have some very over rated players
We have a few guns - but just fall away after that
I don't rate Voss as a coach but no one could coach this team to a flag
Can't believe we got rid of Kennedy
Strange watching tonites game with no expectation - the other teams just rain blows on us and after a while you just go numb
Just hope The Hammers stay up

 

[Arr0w]

Kemp has no idea what’s going on. Whether that’s bad positioning /roles or just doesn’t have the smarts..
Ran into sos earlier .. tried to run through a few hawks like playing rugby…

His footy IQ hasn't developed from junior footy, doubt he remains an AFL footballer in the next year or 2

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

I agree on Docherty unfortunately but I can’t agree that Young played a good game went to ground extremely easily costing us a couple of goals

Young was bad early but I think overall he played okay.

Cottrell also a good game (and needed one).

 

[reg_lower91]

So close but no cigar.
Right about where our list is at unfortunately. Just right in the middle of the pack.

 

[jungojungojungo]

I saw Brodie Kemp sitting in the first row tonight having a pie and a beer - it was the closest he got to the ball all night!

On the plus side I didn't notice Nick Haynes dropping chest marks tonight.....actually I just didn't notice Nick Haynes.

 

[Graffy4242]

Scores of 69 and 60 highlight how impotent our forwardline is. Soft or unfit talls and zero smalls.

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

His footy IQ hasn't developed from junior footy, doubt he remains an AFL footballer in the next year or 2

Yep. I thought there was something there but gee, he has been giving off headless chook vibes for a very long time now.

Not sure there's a position to hide him in.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Total nonsense. No coach "plans" for dumb kicks and Voss was just as frustrated observing them in the box as every fan was watching the game.

The reality is our list isn't good enough. When you have too many bad quality players, it creates pressure. That pressure even ends up affecting better players because they know they can't trust bad team mates.

So why does the entire team do the same thing? They're just all dumb in the exact same way.

Even if it wasn't by instruction it's still the coach's fault if he can't stop them doing it if he thinks it is wrong. If he can't do that he's just a spectator like the rest of us.

Would you agree?

 

[marcmurphy3]

It is cute that some Carlton supporters think like this. We are not in the finals race. Literally every team has the blueprint to beat us, and there's nothing we can do about it with the current 'coach' at the helm.

8 teams out of 18 play finals (almost 50%). Can be pretty flawed and still get there so I'm not ruling us out, but ultimately meaningless if we arent genuine contenders.

 

[InsufficientIntent]

We’ve won 2 games of our last 14. This is a results based industry. Surely there has to be a shake up. The players have not bought in to this archaic gameplan.

 

[reg_lower91]

His footy IQ hasn't developed from junior footy, doubt he remains an AFL footballer in the next year or 2

We unfortunately have this issue with a number of our players.
They have to be taught what to do and then it becomes robotic and doesn't account for the millions of variables that play out in footy.
Collectiveky, we have a really dumb group when it comes to footy IQ.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

It’s not the plan. It’s the result of the players involved in the chains.

You're saying that based on what?

The whole team is doing it whether under pressure or not.

 

[azlou]

Effort and intent was better, still too many passengers

Apart from Jsos who worked his arse off, still poor conversion, you could drop the rest of the forward line and not even blink

Now it's time for Voss to make a statement, Kemp, Motlop either not up to it or just not working hard enough. Walsh still with the same bad habits from his junior days, head down and bang it on the boot

I love that Fogarty wants to have a crack, but way off the level

Williams just doesn't do the hard stuff consistently

Lacked speed, and footskills, no surprise really

I thought Motlop was ok should have had 2 goals looked strong in the contest pressured got some sharp handballs out.
Seemed to be at a lot of contests would have helped to have another small other than Fogarty alongside

 

[CaptainCharisma]

Last week was deplorable but I’m not going to carry on too much about tonight.
It’s just simply must win next week now, if we don’t, then ring the alarm bells.

Effort was definitely there. How many times did it flash the pressure gauge on screen and we were around the 200 mark, problem was they were above 220.

If anyone expected Charlie to not be rusty after 2 preseason surgeries in the wet they were kidding themselves.

I have concerns with Kemp up forward. Would much rather Charlie, Harry, JSOS there.

What has happened to Cowan?

Still think Haynes and Doc are on the wrong side of the hill and should be used accordingly.

Been saying it for years but we are too slow.
If there is anyone with speed on the list get them fit and in the side.

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Acres needs to be dropped. He’s a shell of himself at the moment.

 

[Kernafides]

Cez and Walsh dog shit hewitt and cripps good... and people continue to blame Haynes and young lol unbelievable

 

[The Rhino]

So close but no cigar.
Right about where our list is at unfortunately. Just right in the middle of the pack.

Lol....we ain't middle mate. Take it down a few notches and your closer

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