Oppo Camp Regular Non Eagles Discussion

[Rowan18]

It's not about the single act, last week was a warning to him to pull his head in and instead he goes and does the same thing again?

The guy is mentally deficient and doesn't learn his lessons.

That's not how the MRO works though. There is no precedent, no linking of other charges and the punishment depends more on outcome than intent.

Clearly his action had insufficient force. Neale played on with hardly any delay.

the current charge says that Greene's action was as bad as Hawkins punching Schofield in the head. Ludicrous!

 

[Tugga27]

It's not about the single act, last week was a warning to him to pull his head in and instead he goes and does the same thing again?

The guy is mentally deficient and doesn't learn his lessons.

Of course it's about a single act.

You can't suspend someone for a previous act that they've already been punished for.

 

[sey666]

How is it a suspension right off the bat this week but sent straight to the Tribunal and then not a suspension last week?

GWS playing Christian’s old team in a PF this week.

 

[BartBart]

Just had a look at the stats, they reminded me a bit of the late 90s Brisbane team. They finished last in 1998 and 3rd in 1999. Jumped right up the ladder and made a prelim*. In 2000 they dropped down to 6th and got belted in a semi final, but then won the next 3 flags.



* Incidentally it reminded me how blood-boilingly unfair the finals systems used to be for non-Victorian teams (even moreso than now). You can see the finals here https://afltables.com/afl/seas/1999.html#fin

-So we finished 5th, and played 4th placed Bulldogs away. In those years it was 1v8, 2v7 etc.
-We beat the Bulldogs at the MCG
-Brisbane (3rd) beats Carlton (6th) by 73 points.
-Carlton hosts us in week 2 and beats us. A team that finished below us on the ladder and lost their first final by 12 goals! Brisbane hosted a semi and they had to have one game each week at the MCG because the VFL is still alive and well.
-Carlton goes on to beat Essendon in the prelim in the famous 1 point game
-While the prelim is an all time upset, it led to a completely one sided Grand Final win to the Kangaroos. If we'd rightly played in the prelim either us or Essendon would have played the Kangaroos (almost certainly Essendon). But either way Kangaroos v Eagles and Kangaroos v Bombers were 2 Grand Final matchups that the league deserved to see in that era and never got. Eagles v Kangaroos were the 2 teams of the decade, we dominated in the first half and them in the second half. And Essendon were the dominant team of 99-01 and only came away with one flag.
-And if you're upset about us not making the most of our opportunities, which I think is a bit unfair, imagine being Essendon and finishing top of the ladder 3 years straight, including the most dominant season ever in the VFL/AFL, and only winning 1 flag? And as a Victorian team too? What a failure. But Essendon deserve every heartbreak that comes their way so you shouldn't feel bad for them.

96, 99 & I think 04 were the years non-Vic teams hosted a non-GF final at the MCG.

 

[BartBart]

I reckon a Collingwood v Richmond GF is most likely to produce a good game.

 

[EagleShore]

Sounds like Greene has been given a week after his 2nd straight game of face manipulation.

Perhaps, like most other people, Toby wants to manipulate his own face and after a torrent of internalised self-loathing expresses his detest for his own face by going after the face of others.

A bit like how some outspoken homophobes who don't shut up about it are usually expressing their self-loathing.

Maybe he needs to face his demons and punch himself up like Ed Norton in Fight Club.

 

[Matera92]

It is about the single act. You should only be judged on the specific incident. Christian is a knob.

That's not how the MRO works though. There is no precedent, no linking of other charges and the punishment depends more on outcome than intent.

Clearly his action had insufficient force. Neale played on with hardly any delay.

the current charge says that Greene's action was as bad as Hawkins punching Schofield in the head. Ludicrous!

Of course it's about a single act.

You can't suspend someone for a previous act that they've already been punished for.

If this was an isolated incident I would agree, but the fact is Greene is a dirty flog who has history for this behaviour and seemingly is unable to control himself on a football field, are you happy to wait til he seriously damages someones eyesight before he's sanctioned properly?

They AFL is sending a message, one he clearly didn't get last week. He's already had his free hit and he didn't take notice, I for one, am glad that the parasite is finally being punished for all these malicious actions that have nothing to do with football, and are only intended to injure the opposition.

 

[WCErevival]

I can see the AFL letting them both off if they contest it. Give them a token week to make it look like they did something but allow a chance to still play.

 

[Avalor]

I reckon Brisbane will fall out of the top 4 next year. You see it sometimes with a team that jumps up 'early' that they have a bit of a lull the next year. Their run with injuries and the fixture was about as good as you could ever hope for.

Still think they'll win a flag in the next 5 years though.

Nah, with their age profile, strong bodies, and range of top picks nearing 70 games, they won't fall out of the 8. GF for then next year quite likely, against us, hopefully.

 

[Tugga27]

If this was an isolated incident I would agree, but the fact is Greene is a dirty flog who has history for this behaviour and seemingly is unable to control himself on a football field, are you happy to wait til he seriously damages someones eyesight before he's sanctioned properly?

They AFL is sending a message, one he clearly didn't get last week. He's already had his free hit and he didn't take notice, I for one, am glad that the parasite is finally being punished for all these malicious actions that have nothing to do with football, and are only intended to injure the opposition.

It's still not how the sytem works.
If the MRO stuffs up something the week before, they can't try and get one back by trying to make up for it.
He has to be judged on the current incident.

Would be surprised if he doesn't win on appeal as IMO there is nothing in it.

Would love to have Greene at WC, he's a jet.

 

[Tugga27]

I can see the AFL letting them both off if they contest it. Give them a token week to make it look like they did something but allow a chance to still play.

Reckon Greene will get off but hard to make a case for Hawkins methinks.

 

[Matera92]

It's still not how the sytem works.
If the MRO stuffs up something the week before, they can't try and get one back by trying to make up for it.
He has to be judged on the current incident.

Would be surprised if he doesn't win on appeal as IMO there is nothing in it.

Would love to have Greene at WC, he's a jet.

The system works however the AFL wants it to work, how have you not figured that out yet.

Greene is a grub and I hope he misses.

 

[Tugga27]

The system works however the AFL wants it to work, how have you not figured that out yet.

Greene is a grub and I hope he misses.

I guess we'll find out tomorrow night then.

Hope he gets off as he's crucial for GWS.

 

[MrKK]

The system works however the AFL wants it to work, how have you not figured that out yet.

Greene is a grub and I hope he misses.

Exactly. It's the same as Ablett earlier this season - got let off twice for the same action, didn't heed the warnings and then got suspended for an incident that wasn't as bad as the previous two.

 

[ChampRevesby]

I really want Tigers to lose but after the weekend I want to Cats to get smashed. Their fans are insufferable campaigners.

 

[kane249]

Dream scenario for mine would be GWS to upset Collingwood, Geelong to upset Richmond. GWS to win the flag with Coniglio winning the Norm Smith.

 

[Quinz]

I really want Tigers to lose but after the weekend I want to Cats to get smashed. Their fans are insufferable campaigners.

Win-win scenario then! Extra special if it's a heartbreaking loss for someone.

 

[ChampRevesby]

Win-win scenario then! Extra special if it's a heartbreaking loss for someone.

I have a feeling the winner there will take the flag so there is a down side.
I have a dream of seeing Jack cry, I really want the Tigers to lose by 1 point in extra time in the GF.

 

[kane249]

David King wants Geelong to use the Barry Hall defence to get Hawkins off

‘He’s 100 per cent in play’: Technicality that could help Cat escape ban

Dual premiership Kangaroo David King believes Tom Hawkins has a “real chance” of facing Richmond on Friday night, as the big Cats forward could argue he was in play when he struck Eagle Will Schofield.

www.news.com.au

 

[Cuzz09]

Of course he does [emoji849]

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[Quinz]

I've heard a lot of talk about the off the play vs in play in the last few days.

But while an off the play strike is always regarded as 'intentional', just because they might think Hawkins whacking someone 80m away from the ball is somehow in play, doesn't mean they won't grade the strike as intentional.

In play vs not in play used to carry different weights in the Barry Hall days, they don't now. They only inform what the intention might be.

 

[squashface]

Hawkins is currently challenging his ban for the hit on Schofield.

Hawkins says Schofield dipped down as a result of him pulling his arm away

I think I've seen this one before

 

[BartBart]

1 week stands for Hawkins - will see if they appeal.

 

[ep2018]

Friday night could be a blowout.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Titus sums it up nicely.