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I always read Robbo's stuff and get the impression that he doesn't mind us, I thought he was a Collingwood supporter for a while to be honest...

He has raved about us most weeks in The Tackle and I don't really think you picked up on what he was saying this time Dave. He made reference to us not getting the job done in September, which is completely valid, but he also went on and said;

That all said, there's something different about the Pies this year.
And from there, continued to compliment us and talk us up as a chance, but noting that we need to get to done against better opponents and when it matters. You can hardly fault his logic there.

Will Brodie (I think) gave us a fair hammering in The Age though, surprised you didn't take arms with that Dave-o
 
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He's right. Feel free to get excited, but if we drop out of finals in the same fashion we did last year it's all for naught.
 
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He's right. Feel free to get excited, but if we drop out of finals in the same fashion we did last year it's all for naught.

True - but at the moment we have looked the best we have for a long time
 

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DTM,
Don't get too precious. Internally, the side/club takes little notice of what is said in the media. It is also good there is question marks about it, as it guards against being complacent. Sit back & enjoy the ride.

People in the media write to get a reaction. They aren't going to get 1 if they write what you want to read.
 
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He makes perfectly valid points TD. There is no point firing now if we can't get the job done when it matters.

On a side note, where has the hot chick gone Invig? I have a semi mancrush on Bally, but I had a bigger one on the lady.
 
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It's Luke Ball appreciation week, hot chick has to wait out the back for a bit.

Bros before hoes :)
 
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It's a fair argument and well timed given we are playing a rampaging Freo that should really test us this week.

Will Brodie (I think) gave us a fair hammering in The Age though, surprised you didn't take arms with that Dave-o

Heres that one:

Flag-winning sides have self-belief and mental strength to match their brilliance and class, and prevail in arm-wrestles as well as shootouts. Only St Kilda and Geelong currently fit that bill – the Magpies are a work-in-progress, a team that needs to learn from its failures against the elite teams in order to emulate them, and surpass them.
The Pies have it all to do.

Why Collingwood should not be flag favourites.

That article is a bake if i've ever read one. Not exactly handled with great deal of balance that one.
 
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Robbo's article is fair enough.

Fact is we HAVE seen all this before, and to be considered anything close to a flag threat, we have to win AT LEAST one of the next two, if not both.

The games after that don't mean all that mch if we win. We've beat all of Brisbane at the Gabba, Bulldogs, Melbourne ans Sydney in Sydney in the last couple of years.

But Geelong and Freo at Subi we haven't.

Enjoy each win as it happens by all means, but get dreams of flags out of your heads. It only makes it hurt more.
 
Robbo is doing us a favour.
Last thing we want is the media getting in a tizz.

Let's just keep playing H&A games.
 

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Will Brodie's article is a clear bake.

You can see him picking at "excuses" throughout.

You can smell the fear everywhere.

The machine is clicking into gear once again.
 
how do u know the pies are going well?

Every man, dog and donkey is using every excuse in the book to discredit us.

Will Brodie's article sums it up perfectly, scrambling for things to pick on.
"oh they are a side of B graders, who will definately drop off"
"presti is old rely on him too much, unlike geelong with scarlett who is a rock down back" seriously??? he's played TWO games this season yet better then presti :rolleyes:

Same old excuses, same old attacks. Also lol at the saints being a better side then us, apparently non reliant on one player, better offensively and positive attacking game style...
 
Full credit to Robbo for forging a career in journalism given he can't write and commentary in the electronic media given he can't speak.
 
I agree 100% with robbo, fair article.

will brodie on the other hand, what a ridiculous piece. just trying to stir us up. i love the bit that states that mathew stokes will have a massive impact at the cattery, while blokes like dick and goldsack wont add anything to us. Will brodie is a serious pessimist and obviously a cats fan
 

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Will Brodie's article is a clear bake.

You can see him picking at "excuses" throughout.

You can smell the fear everywhere.

The machine is clicking into gear once again.

ralu said:
I agree 100% with robbo, fair article.

will brodie on the other hand, what a ridiculous piece. just trying to stir us up. i love the bit that states that mathew stokes will have a massive impact at the cattery, while blokes like dick and goldsack wont add anything to us. Will brodie is a serious pessimist and obviously a cats fan

Will Brodie is a Collingwood supporter, so if there's fear in his article, it's only fear of disappointment. (FWIW, I agree that his article was unduly negative.)
 
Robbo said:
What we've seen from Collingwood, as we did last year and most years since 1990, is that their best is good enough, but why can't it be called on in September?

They fail in the big time. Either the occasion gets to them, or their game plan fails under heightened pressure.


That's transparent bullshit. Over the last twenty years, Collingwood hasn't failed because of the 'occasion' or because of 'game plan'. We've failed because we're not good enough. Simple. In finals, and under MM, Collingwood have regularly played up to, and sometimes beyond, reasonable expectations given the quality of our list and our home-and-away ladder position. It's not as if we're worldbeaters who inexplicably underperform in September (see Adelaide).

To wit:
  • We were one of the four best-performed teams in 09, and we played a prelim. Geelong and St Kilda were clearly the two best teams last year and they played the GF. Finals performance reflected home-and-away form that year.
  • In 08 we finished eighth and beat fifth-placed Adelaide in the first week, beating expectations given our ladder position (not to mention the away venue).
  • In 2007 we finished sixth, but made a prelim. Again outperforming our Rd22 ladder position.
  • 2003 we finished second (behind Port) after Rd22 and were runners-up to the Brians, who were clearly a more talented (albeit AFL-created Frankenstein) team and were in the middle leg of a threepeat.
  • In 02 we finished fourth, a long way adrift of the top two, but made a GF.
  • Only in 2006, where we finished fifth but got knocked out in week one by the eighth-placed Dogs, could you say that our big-game performance when it counted at year's end was short of our home-and-away performance.
In short, our September performances in recent years -- and, in fact, even over the last two decades -- are actually pretty bloody good when put them in the context of our home-and-away form. If anything, we tend to exceed what you'd reasonably expect given our pre-Sept performances: see 02 GF, 07 prelim, 08 elim.

If there's a difference this year, it's that we might at last NOT be in the position of being plucky underdogs who slog our guts out only to eventually go down to superior talent and better teams. This year we might -- might -- have claims to being the best team in it.

Pretty ****ing straightforward, I would've thought.
 

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