Shannon Hurn not being named despite being a back to back AA selection, including as VC this year, is interested to hear more.Sicily 20 spots above back to back AA Tom Stewart, is nuts to me.
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Shannon Hurn not being named despite being a back to back AA selection, including as VC this year, is interested to hear more.Sicily 20 spots above back to back AA Tom Stewart, is nuts to me.
Mate this is a forum? Not sure what point you're trying to prove here. Bad day?
I wrote Hurley probably deserves a spot and you've lost it![]()
Robbie Gray is better than about 30 blokes on this list

I know it's hard to believe great players exist outside the Victorian bubble but they do.At what?
Playing footy?
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He's making a prediction though. Perhaps Gray turning 32 in a couple of weeks is playing into prediction? I mean this whole VIC bubble thing is boring now. There are 10 teams in VIC, you'd expect the majority of top 50 players to be from VIC. He also has 9 of the top 20 from non VIC teams, which is a greater percentage than the teams split would suggest would be the case.I know it's hard to believe great players exist outside the Victorian bubble but they do.
Agree. And then it'll be blokes like Robbo that turn on Petracca when he doesn't live up to these unrealistic expectations, claiming what a let-down the bloke is and how much unfilled talent is being wasted. That's Robbo's expectations, not the majority of the footy world's.And what's with Petracca? Is his inclusion based on one Marsh Community game in 2020? His 2019 doesn't justify inclusion
Now that Franklin is way past his best, Naughton is the most exciting key forward in the game next 5 years, 34 is too low. How many kicks did Shaun Higgins get in the state game? Doesn’t like big games, never has.Lynch at 8, McRae at 17, and Naughton at 34 are way too high.
Walters at 23, Brown at 33, and Greene at 40 are too low.
He had Charlie Cameron at 16 in 2019, has his best ever year, and now he's down at 35? Makes no sense.
3, not 5. He was not best in 2016.I’m a mad Doggie man but Dusty is the best player in the game last 5 years
Sicily 20 spots above back to back AA Tom Stewart, is nuts to me.
Nuts is probably a bit strong. Sicily missed out on AA in 2018 due to injury and was regarded by many as the best performing player in his role when he went down. Last year was a 50/50 call between Stewart and Sicily and I honestly believe that if their teams swapped positions it would have gone the other way.
Robbo is also predicting for the year ahead and anticipates that Sicily will have more freedom to do what he does best (intercept and rebound) as Hawthorn now have 2 key defenders down back and plenty of key forwards (Sicily was often asked to man the oppositions FF/CHF and was thrown forward as well due to team needs in 2019).
I personally think that Stewart and Sicily have been neck and neck the last 2 seasons and that will likely continue regardless of team dynamics in 2020 (rather than one jumping ahead as Robbo is predicting).
I know it's hard to believe great players exist outside the Victorian bubble but they do.
4xAA says otherwise but I know you have the blinkers onThere are plenty of great players outside Vic. No argument there.
He's just not as high up the list of them as you believe he is.
Previous awards say nothing about future rankings though?4xAA says otherwise but I know you have the blinkers on
Now that Franklin is way past his best, Naughton is the most exciting key forward in the game next 5 years, 34 is too low. How many kicks did Shaun Higgins get in the state game? Doesn’t like big games, never has.
No one noticed him22 disposals. 4 more than the Bont, 5 more than Macrae
Sicily 20 spots above back to back AA Tom Stewart, is nuts to me.
I know it's hard to believe great players exist outside the Victorian bubble but they do.

Honestly saw him get his first kick early 2nd qtr and thought he wasn’t playing till that point, he’s a good player but doesn’t stand up in big games I’m afraidYou obviously did
Honestly saw him get his first kick early 2nd qtr and thought he wasn’t playing till that point, he’s a good player but doesn’t stand up in big games I’m afraid
He missed 2 crucial goals in that prelimAlong time ago now, but he was close to our best player in the 2009 finals series.