Analysis Rolling All-Australian team for 2021

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Carlton win a game and suddenly they all deserve a mention.

Care to dispute any of them or are you just gonna come with the same boring shit you always do?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Care to dispute any of them or are you just gonna come with the same boring sh*t you always do?

The predictability of it amuses me.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

The predictability of it amuses me.

Same boring shit. Gotcha.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Same boring sh*t. Gotcha.

Imagine if you beat GC next week. So many players will deserve a mention.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Imagine if you beat GC next week. So many players will deserve a mention.

Silly me. Let’s just pick players from the Dogs, Melbourne and Sydney then. Gawn > NN.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Silly me. Let’s just pick players from the Dogs, Melbourne and Sydney then. Gawn > NN.

Nah Fogarty!

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Nah Fogarty!

Hasn’t won all 3 games. I retract.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Hasn’t won all 3 games. I retract.

He's nowhere near it.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

He's nowhere near it.

Obviously. He has only won 1 game?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Obviously. He has only won 1 game?

Pull yourself together.

I know it's exciting to win a game but this thread is about the best players in the competition this year.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Pull yourself together.

I know it's exciting to win a game but this thread is about the best players in the competition this year.

Fogarty has been in our second best player so far this season. There are 40 spots in the squad to be shared over 18 teams at 2.22 spots per team on average. I don’t think it is far fetched to suggest a sides second best player could be in the running for the squad, especially at this early stage.

3 games in ffs. There will be some outliers.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Fogarty has been in our second best player so far this season. There are 40 spots in the squad to be shared over 18 teams at 2.22 spots per team on average.

Yeah, so good teams might get 3-4 and Carlton will probably get 1.

 

[00Stinger]

I feel like I've sufficiently acknowledged that about Gawn.

tbf I agree

I was trying to compliment NN

I always thought he was over rated but the last 24 months I have changed my opinion. He is like a Cyril Rioli where his 12-15 touches are worth 30 of a normal player.

My only knockon him is if he had a tank he could do what Gawn does around the ground if not more

imo Gawn is the number 1 ruck, NN is close (but I can see why people have NN at no 1) then there is Grundy, then there is ****ing infinite daylight to the next

 

[Forward Press]

tbf I agree

I was trying to compliment NN

I always thought he was over rated but the last 24 months I have changed my opinion. He is like a Cyril Rioli where his 12-15 touches are worth 30 of a normal player.

My only knockon him is if he had a tank he could do what Gawn does around the ground if not more

imo Gawn is the number 1 ruck, NN is close (but I can see why people have NN at no 1) then there is Grundy, then there is ******* infinite daylight to the next

Outside of the big 3 (ignoring current season form), you can probably throw in the likes of O'Brien, Witts and Lycett, but they are way behind and not that far ahead of all other primary ruckmen outside of Melbourne, WC and Collingwood.

You could also argue NN's weakness is because he is more effective when used in bursts. Both Gawn and NN though are ruckmen all list managers would trade their left nut for.

 

[bjwilliams]

I look forward to the annual ruck discussion.

Honestly will be a 50/50 again as to who will start.

 

[bzparkes]

Honestly will be a 50/50 again as to who will start.

Either way, we can all be happy that, if they keep up their current form, the discussion won't be around who gets selected but rather who is starting.

 

[JT_the_Man]

Francis defensively looked way better

You witnessed Francis’ best game in a long time. Maybe the best of his career.

 

[00Stinger]

Outside of the big 3 (ignoring current season form), you can probably throw in the likes of O'Brien, Witts and Lycett, but they are way behind and not that far ahead of all other primary ruckmen outside of Melbourne, WC and Collingwood.

You could also argue NN's weakness is because he is more effective when used in bursts. Both Gawn and NN though are ruckmen all list managers would trade their left nut for.

agree

Imagine how devistating NN what be with a tank to impact contested around the ground like he does centre clearances

 

[Scotland]

So who had Taylor Walker

13

Taylor Walker

Age

35

Ht

192cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

1.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

at CHF and Josh Bruce

17

Josh Bruce

Age

33

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

at FF in their pre season sides?

 

[bzparkes]

agree

Imagine how devistating NN what be with a tank to impact contested around the ground like he does centre clearances

Genetics unfortunately.

Still, as long as he's giving us first use at most centre bounces I'll take it any day of the week.

 

[Number37]

Max Gawn is great, keeps up this form and both NN and Gawn will be in the team.

Hickey has been superb for the Swans. IMO, better than NN and MG....so far.

 

[bzparkes]

Hickey has been superb for the Swans. IMO, better than NN and MG....so far.

Not sure about that but I haven't watched the Swans until the Tigers game where he was superb.

Happy for him to be playing this well.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

tbf I agree

I was trying to compliment NN

I always thought he was over rated but the last 24 months I have changed my opinion. He is like a Cyril Rioli where his 12-15 touches are worth 30 of a normal player.

My only knockon him is if he had a tank he could do what Gawn does around the ground if not more

imo Gawn is the number 1 ruck, NN is close (but I can see why people have NN at no 1) then there is Grundy, then there is ******* infinite daylight to the next

Honestly will be a 50/50 again as to who will start.

Naitanui is a more influential player in ruck contests, which should by definition be the #1 criteria.

The ruck is still a genuine 1 on 1 contest. Dominating there should count for more than finding it around the ground.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

So who had Taylor Walker at CHF and Josh Bruce at FF in their pre season sides?

I was arguing this but nobody listened.

 

[Scotland]

I was arguing this but nobody listened.

Is Jacko Nelson worth a mention?