Analysis Rolling All-Australian team for 2021

[LukeParkerno1]

And Papley had 17 top quality games?

As a small forward yes. Good reason we are where we are. They aren’t competing for the same spot.

 

[eth-dog]

If I am picking a team tomorrow for a GF, I know who I will pick and is not even a debate. Get your head out of your ar.se

It's not picking a team for a Grand Final. It's picking a team based on the 22 game season.

Stringer is unlucky but Papley deserved his entry. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Chaisa]

The people comparing Papley and Stringer are clearly forgetting that Papley's like a foot smaller. I don't think comparing a small crumbing forward to a hard nut mid-forward is right to me.

 

[SSwans2011]

Tom Papley: 41 goals and 21 assists
Jake Stringer: 39 goals and 13 assists

Papley deserved his spot. He had more goals and assists than any other small/medium forward.

Fair point, that's pretty hard to argue with. Totals are definitely more a relevant metric than averages.

A reasonable case could be mounted for all of Stringer, Franklin and Riewoldt. But, Riewoldt is probably unfortunate to have been in an underwhelming Richmond side, and although Stringer and Franklin have probably been more damaging than Papley when they played, they missed too much football to make up the difference over the course of the season.

 

[W.C. Fry]

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There was two rucks last year, and the year before, and the year before that...

It's like people think this team is selected to play a game.
Nic had an amazing season and easily could have been named starting ruckman.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

Papley ahead of Stringer is an absolute farce. If his name was Dusty he’d have been first picked.

You mean the same dusty who has been snubbed from the team more than once try again

 

[Thuggee_Cult]

Papley kicked more goals, took more marks.

I read recently he had the most goal assists too.

Him and Greene were absolute locks and deserved their spots.

Stinger had a good second half of the year but had a slow start to the year which cost him a spot, the other two where better overall.

 

[Ambrosia]

I read recently he had the most goal assists too.

Him and Greene were absolute locks and deserved their spots.

Stinger had a good second half of the year but had a slow start to the year which cost him a spot, the other two where better overall.

I think they also wanted to reward the Swans and it makes sense to pick a pure forward seeing as they picked two mids on the HFF.

 

[SSwans2011]

Bring up AA captains Franklin and Fyfe and we will melt.

Give me a break. Franklin is one of the best captains the Swans and Hawks have had.

 

[bzparkes]

Naitanui over Darcy...

Yes, because he was much better. Probably should've been starting ruck but that's splitting hairs with Gawn really.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Steele is a accumulator, Stringer wins matches

Watch a game of steeles and you will realise st kilda would not have one many of them games without him. Best two way mid in the game. Kicks goals. Aggressive. Unselfish.

 

[Blind Turn]

You mean the same dusty who has been snubbed from the team more than once try again

Based on the stats Jake has had this season there is no doubt Martin would be in - no doubt whatsoever.

 

[bzparkes]

Neither deserved AA tbh. Besides clearances and a few flashy taps, what does Nic Nat actually do? A second ruck in a hypothetical team should be able to go forward but that's never been in Nic's repertoire.

What did he do?

Oh I dunno, was the no.1 ranked player in the competition and polled more coaches' votes than Gawn?

Your opinion is as shit as the team you support.

 

[demondavey]

I don't even live in Victoria, but sure let's go through it.

Who apart from NN makes it from West Coast?

Who makes it from Freo? If it's Darcy, NN makes way and the numbers remain the same.

Port had two. Amon borderline, but better season than Oliver, Macrae, Bont, Petracca, Miller, Merrett, Parish, Steele? Nope.

Laird is very close, but see above.

Sydney had Papley. Does Buddy make it over Hawkins and McKay in limited games? No. Mills, again didn't outperform the mids listed above, despite having a great year.

GWS - who makes it?

Brisbane had Rich. I would've had Cameron over Papley, but again, negates the interstate number. Andrews was very stiff not to make the squad, but didn't outperform May this season, and had a comparable year to Allir. Again, no change in interstate numbers.

Gold Coast had Miller.

Where would you justify spreading out the team across the states?

Surely GWS had some other high performing players aside from Greene?

 

[The Wrecker]

I'm a huge fan of Tom Papley

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Tom Papley

Age

29

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.3

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

3.4

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.4

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.6

5star

but I'm not sure he had an All-Oz year.
I also wonder about the make up of the backline. Don't Lever, Stewart and Alir play the same role? I would have left out Alir.
May seems the only one to really play on an opponent?
Not convinced about McCrae or Dale either.

 

[bzparkes]

Captain Gawn. West Coast board on meltdown alert.

Not really. Looks like they squeezed him into the starting side to make him captain. No issue with that as I believe an actual Captain should captain the AA side. If that's the rationale then no issues from me. Splitting hairs between the 2 anyway.

 

[SSwans2011]

The other question mark is Callum Mills.

To be fair, if Mills' ability to play in multiple positions was considered, Dawson would have arguably been a better Swans selection. Only because Dawson played more, Mills was probably our best player this season across the matches he actually played.

 

[eth-dog]

I'm a huge fan of Tom Papley but I'm not sure he had an All-Oz year.
I also wonder about the make up of the backline. Don't Lever, Stewart and Alir play the same role? I would have left out Alir.
May seems the only one to really play on an opponent?
Not convinced about McCrae or Dale either.

Aliir takes the #1 tall from my viewing of him as opposed to Stewart or Lever

 

[danster168]

lol all the bombers fans finally understanding what the word consistent means!

 

[Thuggee_Cult]

I think they also wanted to reward the Swans and it makes sense to pick a pure forward seeing as they picked two mids on the HFF.

Paplet and Greene where the best small forwards in the game this year.

Agree about the mids getting HFF spots, i can understand one getting a spot if there aren’t enough quality forwards but 2 spots shouldn’t happen.

 

[danster168]

Yes, because he was much better. Probably should've been starting ruck but that's splitting hairs with Gawn really.

hahaha.the games done mate. you lost. sit down brother. The AA panel chose Gawn and chose him as captain. now sit down, open your dictionary and look up the term 'biased',past tense of 'bias' then you will realise why you were wrong

 

[Romeoh1]

Steele is a accumulator, Stringer wins matches

Steele is far more than an ‘accumulator’ and absolutely earned his spot in the team.

 

[bzparkes]

hahaha.the games done mate. you lost. sit down brother. The AA panel chose Gawn and chose him as captain. now sit down, open your dictionary and look up the term 'biased',past tense of 'bias' then you will realise why you were wrong

'lost'? It's not a competition you numpty.

The AA panel is full of clueless dinosaurs anyway.

 

[SSwans2011]

I'm a huge fan of Tom Papley but I'm not sure he had an All-Oz year.

I agree, it didn't really feel like an AA season from Papley. But relative to his competition, it was. Small forwards as a whole weren't as prolific in front of goals as they have been in most recent seasons.

 

[Thuggee_Cult]

Steele is a accumulator, Stringer wins matches

You don’t watch a lot of Saints games I take it, Steele is a jet.