Game Day Round 11 vs. Fremantle, OS, 8:10pm Friday 24/05

[No SPIN]

Based purely on last week I would have dropped Harrison before Macrae

HH has amazingly quick hands - some of his “gives” to set up goals were sublime. Including the one in the chain for the winning goal.
When combined with his speed and Footy IQ he’s going to be very hard to drop.

 

[BuildEmUp]

What leads you to that conclusion? Freo doesn’t have a Harris Andrews…

Their captain is as g

Cox SUB ?
Frampton to go 2nd ruck ?

Can't have 3 key backs, so someone has to drift forward

you mean 2 key backs plus Dean ?

 

[sr36]

Fin wasn't underwhelming in the Eagles game. Kicked 3 goals..played his best ever game, imo.

He was and is good on the spread, but even in that game he wasn't great in the contests.

 

[Daicosian silk]

Is this week the toughest H&A test we’ve faced under Fly?

• 5 changes
• 2 debutants
• Another 3 players who are very inexperienced (Sullivan, Dean, Harrison)
• Coming off a third successive six day break
• Playing away
• Travelling to Perth
• An opponent that is up and about

Of course we can win it, but if we do it’ll be a H&A win for the ages.

Plus Richards who has only played 2 games

 

[Daicosian silk]

Cox is one player tonight that needs to pull the finger out. Really struggling at the moment to have any real impact, but we need him to be competitive against Darcy and Jackson, and help to not allow them to dominate in the ruck and around the ground. I want to see Cox marking the ball. One mark in a game isn't going to cut it tonight. ON WATCH!!!

It’d be nice if he actually went for his marks with 2 hands occasionally

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

HH has amazingly quick hands - some of his “gives” to set up goals were sublime. Including the one in the chain for the winning goal.
When combined with his speed and Footy IQ he’s going to be very hard to drop.

I have no real issue with HH as a player

I'm just saying purely based on last week. Let alone the combined fortnight with the West Coast game where Fin was great.

Fin also has really good hands and he's not exactly slow.

I just think Fin seems to be really hard done by. But as Mollythedolly suggested yesterday to me (one of the rare posters to actually reply in a mature and reasonable manner) it could be a specific role thing,

 

[pablo disco bar]

It’d be nice if he actually went for his marks with 2 hands occasionally

Isn't his hand with glove on got a cast on it ?? May explain a few things

 

[sr36]

I have no real issue with HH as a player

I'm just saying purely based on last week. Let alone the combined fortnight with the West Coast game where Fin was great.

Fin also has really good hands and he's not exactly slow.

I just think Fin seems to be really hard done by. But as Mollythedolly suggested yesterday to me (one of the rare posters to actually reply in a mature and reasonable manner) it could be a specific role thing,

Did you watch the replay as well as going to the game?

I just ask, as at the game I miss a heap of what happens in congestion - the contests in traffic are all a bit of a blur for me in terms of individual players. TV makes it pretty clear that Harrison is currently a fair way above Macrae in contests.

 

[sideswipe]

Isn't his hand with glove on got a cast on it ?? May explain a few things

The glove is goneski

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I have no real issue with HH as a player

I'm just saying purely based on last week. Let alone the combined fortnight with the West Coast game where Fin was great.

Fin also has really good hands and he's not exactly slow.

I just think Fin seems to be really hard done by. But as Mollythedolly suggested yesterday to me (one of the rare posters to actually reply in a mature and reasonable manner) it could be a specific role thing,

At least it's reassuring that selectors are prepared to move on players that they feel don't adequately perform or fit the team's structure. I didn't see much of either player on the TV last week, but I did see HH's crucial involvement in the winning goal. He is making a habit of inhabiting pivotal moments in games. I didn't see Finn do anything as team or score lifting.

 

[jmac70]

Is this week the toughest H&A test we’ve faced under Fly?

• 5 changes
• 2 debutants
• Another 3 players who are very inexperienced (Sullivan, Dean, Harrison)
• Coming off a third successive six day break
• Playing away
• Travelling to Perth
• An opponent that is up and about

Of course we can win it, but if we do it’ll be a H&A win for the ages.

We’ve still got plenty of premiership players out there.

Pies by 16 points.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

He was and is good on the spread, but even in that game he wasn't great in the contests.

My reply was to someone who said Fin has been underwhelming in the past '2 weeks'. I wouldn't have included the Eagles game as underwhelming. Last week yes, but not the week before, imo.

 

[sr36]

My reply was to someone who said Fin has been underwhelming in the past '2 weeks'. I wouldn't have included the Eagles game as underwhelming. Last week yes, but not the week before, imo.

I was underwhelmed due to his contested work in that game, as getting to good spots when spreading forward from contest isn't enough and isn't going to get you uncontested goals most week.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Our team selected this round is still the oldest in the comp and one of the more experienced in average games

Mean
Median
Mode

All different ways of calculating averages and all produce vastly different results.

 

[thebaldfacts]

Big game tonight. Win and we consolidate our place in the 8. Coming up against a full strength Freo whilst we have 5 first year players in our side.

Definite underdogs tonight, but we thrive under adversity. Chance to make a statement tonight.

Pies by a comfortable 11 points.

 

[Big Bryza]

I am getting a bit spooked by the media circus backing the Dockers. My belief leans towards the young blokes who have gotten the job done in the last couple of weeks, but it would be nice to win tomorrow night, have a wicked weekend, then belt the Dogs going into the big freeze...

If Freo can't beat us with all our outs then they may as well shut the club down.

They've been talking a big game all week but this has the scent of a Collingwood backs to the wall game about it.

They cannot score and will keep us interested all night.

Freo by 3 goals at 3/4 time. Let's see what happens.

 

[nahnah]

Mean
Median
Mode

All different ways of calculating averages and all produce vastly different results.

Here is the distribution, i'll hand over to you to do the maths

 

[Basil brush]

Here is the distribution, i'll hand over to you to do the maths
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I am a bit shocked our average games is still 105 even with Pendles and Sidey.

 

[No SPIN]

Don't need to calm down. He's faster than our whole list.

Reef and HH also won the draft sprint - Did he beat their times?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Here is the distribution, i'll hand over to you to do the maths
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Mean … Collingwood is older but that number is always grossly distorted by outliers. Needs further standard deviation analysis to quantify the effect of that. Take off the two highest and lowest for example and the mean changes a lot
Median. Where’s the middle player in the list sits ( ie player number 11.5 out of the 23) rounding up or down it doesn’t matter, Both sides have that player in the 50-99 games bracket. That’s pretty even.
Mode. The bracket where most of our players sit. Both in the under 50 category. Also even . We have two more in the 100-149 and two less in the 50-99 bracket so slight experience sdvantage there. For. Veterans over 150 games we only have only player more in those groups than Fremantle

Bottom line Pendles and Sidey are outliers and massively distort the average stats. But they are only two players.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Here is the distribution, i'll hand over to you to do the maths
View attachment 1998692

Looks remarkably even. Not sure what all the fuss is about.

 

[foreigner]

I am getting a bit spooked by the media circus backing the Dockers. My belief leans towards the young blokes who have gotten the job done in the last couple of weeks, but it would be nice to win tomorrow night, have a wicked weekend, then belt the Dogs going into the big freeze...

It serves us well to go as the underdogs.

 

[nahnah]

Looks remarkably even. Not sure what all the fuss is about.

I agree, pies by 28

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

Good news!
Free wifi on the train from Vienna to Prague!
VPN ready..
Vienna is incredible

Eh, like Ultravox it means nothing to me...

 

[neilk]

Eh, like Ultravox it means nothing to me...

Ah, Vienna.