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2021 TOYOTA AFL PREMIERSHIP
Round 2 • CARLTON V COLLINGWOOD
THURSDAY, 25 MARCH 2021 7:20 PM AEDT
HEAD TO HEAD
PLAYED: 258
CARLTON: 127
COLLINGWOOD: 127
DRAWN: 4
In what poses as an intriguing battle, the Carlton Blues and Collingwood Magpies kick off Round 2 action under lights at the MCG.
Carlton enter the game as slight outsiders on the back of solid Round 1 form, having pushed 2020 premiers Richmond to the brink in an enthralling return for AFL football. The clash between the two VFL heavyweights was notable for providing the first glimpse of the new stand rule, which generally looks to have facilitated more attacking football, with offenses taking advantage of the flat footed player on the mark to open up angles. Inadvertently, this has resulted in more playing area posing a credible scoring threat, as players have essenitally been able to gain extra territory before disposing of the ball which would have otherwise been impeded by effective defence of the mark. In terms of Carlton's Round 1 performance itself, the Blues were in the match up to their eyeballs until the final ten minutes, when a procession of Richmond scoring (3.3) closed out the match and denied the Blues an unlikely Round 1 victory. Carlton were well led by their skipper Patrick Cripps
PLAYERCARDSTART
9
Patrick Cripps
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 195cm
- Wt
- 93kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 25.9
- 5star
- K
- 9.8
- 4star
- HB
- 16.1
- 5star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 5.8
- 5star
- CL
- 7.4
- 5star
- D
- 21.0
- 5star
- K
- 10.1
- 4star
- HB
- 10.9
- 5star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 3.8
- 4star
- CL
- 6.3
- 5star
- D
- 12.6
- 4star
- K
- 4.8
- 2star
- HB
- 7.8
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- CL
- 1.4
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
10
Harry Mckay
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 200cm
- Wt
- 106kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.9
- 3star
- K
- 7.5
- 3star
- HB
- 2.4
- 2star
- M
- 5.5
- 5star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
- D
- 6.6
- 1star
- K
- 4.6
- 2star
- HB
- 2.0
- 1star
- M
- 3.6
- 4star
- T
- 1.4
- 2star
- G
- 1.4
- 5star
- D
- 8.8
- 3star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 2.0
- 2star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 0.8
- 3star
- G
- 2.0
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
1
Jack Silvagni
- Age
- 26
- Ht
- 194cm
- Wt
- 92kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.0
- 3star
- K
- 7.1
- 3star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 3.8
- 4star
- T
- 2.9
- 4star
- G
- 0.7
- 4star
- D
- 5.3
- 1star
- K
- 4.0
- 1star
- HB
- 1.3
- 1star
- M
- 1.7
- 2star
- T
- 0.7
- 1star
- G
- 0.7
- 4star
- D
- 9.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.2
- 3star
- HB
- 3.0
- 3star
- M
- 3.4
- 4star
- T
- 2.8
- 5star
- G
- 0.8
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
21
Oscar Mcdonald
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 196cm
- Wt
- 100kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 13.2
- 3star
- K
- 7.9
- 3star
- HB
- 5.2
- 4star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- MG
- 191.4
- 3star
- D
- 11.3
- 3star
- K
- 7.7
- 3star
- HB
- 3.7
- 3star
- M
- 3.7
- 4star
- T
- 1.7
- 3star
- MG
- 157.7
- 3star
- D
- 14.8
- 4star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 9.4
- 5star
- M
- 4.4
- 4star
- T
- 0.4
- 3star
- MG
- 138.4
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
Collingwood, on the other hand, enter Round 2 with a point to prove after a lethargic Round 1 performance that did little to subdue existing fears around the team's perceived holes. Their opponents, the Bulldogs, dominated control of the ball (+124 uncontested possessions) and forward thrusts (+19 inside 50's) in a performance that exposed Collingwood's frailties. In the heat of Round 1 action, Collingwood's bottom six contributors had no influence on the outcome of the match; a criticism that has been consistently levelled on this team, and one that does not bode well for a side that essentially had almost a full complement of players to choose from. Trey Ruscoe (3 disposals, no score), Oliver Henry (4 disposals, no score) and Will Hoskin Elliott (12 disposals, no score, 5 clangers) offered precious little as medium options in the forwardline, failing to exert any defensive pressure nor having any real offensive impact, leaving much of the work to other, more servicable options in Mason Cox
PLAYERCARDSTART
46
Mason Cox
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 211cm
- Wt
- 110kg
- Pos.
- F/R
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 8.7
- 2star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 3.5
- 3star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
- 4star
- D
- 6.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 0.3
- 1star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 9.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.4
- 2star
- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- G
- 1.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
41
Brody Mihocek
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 192cm
- Wt
- 99kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.9
- 3star
- K
- 8.2
- 3star
- HB
- 3.7
- 3star
- M
- 5.3
- 5star
- T
- 2.0
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
- D
- 8.4
- 2star
- K
- 6.3
- 3star
- HB
- 2.1
- 2star
- M
- 4.3
- 4star
- T
- 1.9
- 3star
- G
- 1.7
- 5star
- D
- 10.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.4
- 3star
- HB
- 3.8
- 3star
- M
- 4.6
- 5star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- G
- 1.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
30
Darcy Moore
- Age
- 28
- Ht
- 203cm
- Wt
- 100kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 11.1
- 3star
- K
- 7.0
- 3star
- HB
- 4.1
- 3star
- M
- 4.8
- 5star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- MG
- 169.1
- 3star
- D
- 13.9
- 3star
- K
- 7.3
- 3star
- HB
- 6.6
- 4star
- M
- 4.9
- 5star
- T
- 0.7
- 1star
- MG
- 182.0
- 3star
- D
- 6.8
- 2star
- K
- 4.2
- 2star
- HB
- 2.6
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
- 3star
- T
- 1.8
- 4star
- MG
- 87.4
- 2star
PLAYERCARDEND
Player to Watch
CARLTON: Zac Williams
Wanting to provide our board with the best opposition analysis and insight, I attempted to delegate the opposition analysis to my Carlton supporting partner. Unfortunately, when I asked her which Carlton player we needed to be concerned about this week, she threw up two names - Chris Judd and Bryce Gibbs. On pressing for a potentially more relevant name, Eddie Betts, I was promptly informed that he plays for Adelaide now.
My unsuccessful attempts to delegate thus mean that I've had to do my own research. Zac Williams is a player that needs no introduction to Collingwood faithful. having had a significant say in depriving us a seat at the 2019 Grand Final table. On a day in which GWS were missing a number of significant players, Zac Williams filled the midfield void, having a game changing 25 disposals and 10 clearances from a mere 68% gametime as Collingwood failed time and time again to take advantage of Brodie Grundy
PLAYERCARDSTART
4
Brodie Grundy
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 202cm
- Wt
- 105kg
- Pos.
- Ruck
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 17.5
- 4star
- K
- 8.0
- 3star
- HB
- 9.6
- 5star
- CL
- 4.1
- 5star
- HO
- 32.0
- 5star
- D
- 16.4
- 4star
- K
- 6.8
- 3star
- HB
- 9.6
- 5star
- CL
- 4.0
- 5star
- HO
- 34.6
- 5star
- D
- 13.8
- 4star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 8.6
- 5star
- CL
- 2.6
- 5star
- HO
- 20.6
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
9
Patrick Cripps
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 195cm
- Wt
- 93kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 25.9
- 5star
- K
- 9.8
- 4star
- HB
- 16.1
- 5star
- M
- 3.4
- 3star
- T
- 5.8
- 5star
- CL
- 7.4
- 5star
- D
- 21.0
- 5star
- K
- 10.1
- 4star
- HB
- 10.9
- 5star
- M
- 2.5
- 3star
- T
- 3.8
- 4star
- CL
- 6.3
- 5star
- D
- 12.6
- 4star
- K
- 4.8
- 2star
- HB
- 7.8
- 5star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- CL
- 1.4
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
18
Sam Walsh
- Age
- 23
- Ht
- 184cm
- Wt
- 84kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 25.1
- 5star
- K
- 13.5
- 5star
- HB
- 11.6
- 5star
- M
- 5.1
- 5star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- CL
- 3.4
- 5star
No current season stats available
- D
- 26.2
- 5star
- K
- 15.4
- 5star
- HB
- 10.8
- 5star
- M
- 6.0
- 5star
- T
- 3.2
- 5star
- CL
- 4.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
David Teague
- Age
- 42
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 90kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 9.6
- 2star
- K
- 6.2
- 2star
- HB
- 3.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 5.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.2
- 2star
- HB
- 1.8
- 2star
- M
- 2.2
- 3star
- T
- 1.0
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
COLLINGWOOD: Josh Thomas
PLAYERCARDSTART
24
Josh Thomas
- Age
- 32
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 78kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.4
- 4star
- K
- 8.5
- 3star
- HB
- 7.9
- 5star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 9.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 6.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.3
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 17.4
- 5star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 8.4
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
I can already feel the heat of the passionate outrage I'll get for making such an outlandish prediction. My gut feel has been that, since the turn of the century, Carlton have quite often let members of our mosquito fleet get off the chain. While players like Kade Simpson
PLAYERCARDSTART
6
Kade Simpson
- Age
- 39
- Ht
- 183cm
- Wt
- 75kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 21.3
- 5star
- K
- 14.0
- 5star
- HB
- 7.3
- 5star
- M
- 5.7
- 5star
- T
- 2.6
- 4star
- MG
- 409.0
- 5star
- D
- 16.3
- 4star
- K
- 11.9
- 5star
- HB
- 4.4
- 3star
- M
- 3.9
- 4star
- T
- 0.8
- 1star
- MG
- 258.6
- 4star
- D
- 2.0
- 1star
- K
- 1.2
- 1star
- HB
- 0.8
- 1star
- M
- 0.8
- 1star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
Heath Scotland
- Age
- 43
- Ht
- 182cm
- Wt
- 82kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 21.6
- 5star
- K
- 12.4
- 5star
- HB
- 9.2
- 5star
- M
- 5.3
- 5star
- T
- 2.3
- 4star
No current season stats available
- D
- 10.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.8
- 3star
- HB
- 4.2
- 4star
- M
- 2.0
- 3star
- T
- 0.4
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
42
Adam Saad
- Age
- 29
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 79kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 17.5
- 4star
- K
- 10.0
- 4star
- HB
- 7.5
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 2.7
- 4star
- MG
- 349.1
- 5star
- D
- 20.7
- 5star
- K
- 12.0
- 5star
- HB
- 8.7
- 4star
- M
- 3.3
- 3star
- T
- 2.4
- 3star
- MG
- 388.3
- 5star
- D
- 17.6
- 5star
- K
- 10.4
- 4star
- HB
- 7.2
- 5star
- M
- 4.2
- 4star
- T
- 1.2
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
24
Nic Newman
- Age
- 31
- Ht
- 186cm
- Wt
- 80kg
- Pos.
- Def
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 19.7
- 5star
- K
- 13.7
- 5star
- HB
- 5.9
- 4star
- M
- 5.5
- 5star
- T
- 3.3
- 5star
- MG
- 400.8
- 5star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 6.5
- 3star
- HB
- 1.0
- 1star
- M
- 2.0
- 2star
- T
- 1.0
- 2star
- MG
- 157.0
- 3star
- D
- 22.4
- 5star
- K
- 12.8
- 5star
- HB
- 9.6
- 5star
- M
- 5.4
- 5star
- T
- 3.6
- 5star
- MG
- 387.8
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
15
Sam Docherty
- Age
- 30
- Ht
- 187cm
- Wt
- 87kg
- Pos.
- Mid
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 22.3
- 5star
- K
- 15.1
- 5star
- HB
- 7.2
- 4star
- M
- 6.6
- 5star
- T
- 2.4
- 4star
- CL
- 1.1
- 3star
- D
- 22.6
- 5star
- K
- 16.0
- 5star
- HB
- 6.6
- 4star
- M
- 7.0
- 5star
- T
- 0.6
- 1star
- CL
- 0.4
- 3star
- D
- 11.2
- 3star
- K
- 6.0
- 3star
- HB
- 5.2
- 4star
- M
- 2.4
- 3star
- T
- 1.4
- 4star
- CL
- 0.6
- 3star
PLAYERCARDEND
PLAYERCARDSTART
24
Josh Thomas
- Age
- 32
- Ht
- 178cm
- Wt
- 78kg
- Pos.
- Fwd
Career
Season
Last 5
- D
- 16.4
- 4star
- K
- 8.5
- 3star
- HB
- 7.9
- 5star
- M
- 3.1
- 3star
- T
- 3.0
- 5star
- G
- 0.9
- 4star
- D
- 9.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 6.0
- 3star
- M
- 1.3
- 1star
- T
- 2.0
- 3star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
- D
- 17.4
- 5star
- K
- 9.0
- 4star
- HB
- 8.4
- 5star
- M
- 3.0
- 3star
- T
- 3.4
- 5star
- G
- 0.0
- 1star
PLAYERCARDEND
Non-KPP bags of 4+ goals v Carlton, 2000 onwards
My tip: I'm not as bullish as I'd usually hope to be going into a clash against Carlton. It looks like they're turning the corner, and conversely we have some serious problems that need to be addressed. I don't see this one getting too out of hand by virtue of our magnificent defense led by Moore, Howe and Maynard but I do believe that particularly in the midfield, Carlton will be too strong for us unless we can address our common centre clearance inadequacies.
Carlton by 17
Maggie5 not sure if you want to use this as a preview or match-day thread, feel free to lock or change titles, tags etc as required.
Edit: Shout out to JDG for game number 100, oops. Me forgetting was defintiely your fault Maggie5
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