Recommitted Rowan Marshall [OOC 2027] - Requested Trade to Geelong, didn't get done

[FootyLad0]

Jordan Clark

Was out of contract. Had no hold over him

Mackie wasn’t list manager either.

 

[iameviljez]

And you pay a premium for contracted players, see Tim Kelly.

Actually he was also out of contract. But you only get one West Coast in your life

 

[SainterinSydney]

Was out of contract. Had no hold over him

Mackie wasn’t list manager either.

I hate to say it, but Geelong hang on to their good players and they don't look to trade contracted players unless it suits them completely--Tim Kelly, for example. Which is why Geelong should take Ross at his word when he says St Kilda will use the Geelong model as the basis for any dealings with our contracted players.

 

[catman2006]

As Mackie said Geelong will get growth organically
But, will also decrease organically
The question is will it be enough to keep up with Brisbane, Gold Coast and the Hawks?

No to both Qld clubs but the comp wont anyway hawks are similar to the cats

 

[nineteen eighty]

My post had nothing to do with Curnow. I was commenting on a young key forward with 45 games under his belt, selected at pick 33. He's doing okay. The post I replied to was worth pointing that out to.

Anything else I can help you with?

All good Meow. Curiosity got the better of me when I saw Curnow's name in the same paragraph as your bloke.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Exactly
Brisbane are getting better

We could improve our team and likely not beat Brisbane when it counts.
They are a very good bet for threepeat

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I don't care about it that much and I really like Marshall.

F1 and pick swaps in our favour. Dunno why it hadn't been done yet.

Who knows. Maybe it is.
There's definitely trades each year that are for all intents and purposes "done" but are left to Wednesday night for Fox's deadline day program.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Do you foresee 19 and future 2nd getting it done? Or pure F1 to get it over the line.

Marshall is still adamant about going. Twomey reiterated that yesterday. I imagine more traction will happen in the next few days.

I think the only way we would consider taking your first this year is if we think jevan phillipou is a good chance of getting through to the pick which I don’t think is going to happen or we make a late play for cam McKenzie

 

[fnerd]

Was out of contract. Had no hold over him

Mackie wasn’t list manager either.

Lol

https://www.afl.com.au/news/682776


“He was contracted to the Cats for the 2022 season, but was eager to get more game time, playing 32 matches over three years (including four this season as medi-sub).”

 

[Art Vandelay_]

CC: fnerd

 

[iameviljez]

Lol

https://www.afl.com.au/news/682776


“He was contracted to the Cats for the 2022 season, but was eager to get more game time, playing 32 matches over three years (including four this season as medi-sub).”

Eh. There you go.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Lol

https://www.afl.com.au/news/682776


“He was contracted to the Cats for the 2022 season, but was eager to get more game time, playing 32 matches over three years (including four this season as medi-sub).”

This is a pretty good example though of a club having a contracted, valuable player, who they want to deploy elsewhere on the ground but does not want to do so, then accepting pick 21 for him after initially asking for pick 8

Ironically the whole reason a Marshall trade is even on the agenda is because the guy we got back has a busted foot that likely never recovers.

 

[austinnn]

We have about 3 inclusions to the best 23 without losing anybody and that’s before adding Marshall. So yeah, I assume there would be natural improvement.

Saying they NEED someone when it’s far from the biggest factor of Brisbane beating them in the Grand Final is silly.
Want? Yes
Need? No

Adding a ruck would help massively but the Lions midfielders destroyed ours. Ruck was about number 10 of the list of problems on GF day.

I keep reading this but if so, what are Geelong doing about that? I dont see any of their midfield improving. Seems they're only interested in changing one element of it and that is the ruck

 

[fpm84]

I keep reading this but if so, what are Geelong doing about that? I dont see any of their midfield improving. Seems they're only interested in changing one element of it and that is the ruck

You don't see a 23 yo Holmes or a 24 yo Smith (first season off an ACL) improving next season?

We have also added Worpel as a solid 3rd/4th rotation, and look like regaining Bruhn.

Maybe it won't be enough to challenge the Brisbanes of the world, but there's not much else we can do having chased Rowell and Butters only for both to stay put.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You don't see a 23 yo Holmes or a 24 yo Smith (first season off an ACL) improving next season?

We have also added Worpel as a solid 3rd/4th rotation, and look like regaining Bruhn.

Maybe it won't be enough to challenge the Brisbanes of the world, but there's not much else we can do having chased Rowell and Butters only for both to stay put.

Holmes and Smith are too old to get any better. Marshall though is the perfect age to start his career fresh in the most difficult role on the field apparently

 

[HBFlanker]

You don't see a 23 yo Holmes or a 24 yo Smith (first season off an ACL) improving next season?

We have also added Worpel as a solid 3rd/4th rotation, and look like regaining Bruhn.

Maybe it won't be enough to challenge the Brisbanes of the world, but there's not much else we can do having chased Rowell and Butters only for both to stay put.

I think they improve but Worpel wont play a role in that at all. He won't get a game.

 

[fpm84]

I think they improve but Worpel wont play a role in that at all. He won't get a game.

Worpel literally walks in the door as our fourth best mid behind Holmes, Smith and Atkins.

We know our midfield is our weakness, as shown in the GF. There's not much else we can do - the best midfielder to move clubs this trade period has been Flanders and he's certainly not a difference maker.

 

[FootyLad0]

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Geelong will be fine either way. You have to find a way to cope with that.

There are three certainties. Death, taxes and Aristotle pickett not coping with Geelong doing well.

 

[HBFlanker]

Worpel literally walks in the door as our fourth best mid behind Holmes, Smith and Atkins.

We know our midfield is our weakness, as shown in the GF. There's not much else we can do - the best midfielder to move clubs this trade period has been Flanders and he's certainly not a difference maker.

So far. There are another 3 or 4 that are better than Flanders who will move before Wednesday.

 

[Sheepey]

Just a hilarious quote from a truly terrible journalist. If the "other club" isn't Geelong, who tf cares about what they think?

God I'm just DESPERATE to get Fremantle's take on whether Marshall ends up a Cat.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think they improve but Worpel wont play a role in that at all. He won't get a game.

They have a pretty specific role in mind for Worpel but it assumes his form slump this year is driven by the syndesmosis injury and that he'll improve next year. If it is more of his 2025 output he'll be out of the side but i doubt it

 

[FootyLad0]

Last day trade, was always going to be. Same as Smith last year.

The comment you're responding to is irt to a specific stalker we have. It's nothing to do with saints, or Marshall for that matter.

Think i reiterated that the other day.
It's not Saints fans being a pain in here. Most have been genuinely respectful and have actually engaged in discourse,
It just seems it's Geelong threads that always have "nEutRaLs" (anything but that) that are lurkers who have an unhinged or irrational level of hatred for anything Geelong that they just "want to see Geelong get reamed" to the point they start making nonsensical posts.

Old mate saying Cats who finished a game out of Minor Premiers and made a Grand Final need Marshall to be the difference between making or breaking our 2026 season like we didn't just make a Grand Final with Blicavs and the corpse of Stanley playing Ruck is just pure hilarity.

Brisbane are far above everyone, that's not just a Geelong problem.
Lions have roughly 9 players who can rotate on ball and not look lost or out of their depth.
That's insane level of talent all in one side.

There's a reason they've gone back to back and would be rightly favourites to win a third.
Us gaining Marshall is not going to make up the talent gap here no matter how good the bloke is (and he is good), it just gives us a better shot of not playing a decomposing corpse of a man that needs to be realistic and head off to his farm and stay there...and i love the bloke (THAT'S PREMIERSHIP RUCKMAN RHYS STANLEY) but it's about that time.

 

[FootyLad0]

Just a hilarious quote from a truly terrible journalist. If the "other club" isn't Geelong, who tf cares about what they think?

God I'm just DESPERATE to get Fremantle's take on whether Marshall ends up a Cat.

It's funny that he would say something like that.
I'm sure we are all awaiting with baited breath on Port's thoughts on the trade

 

[austinnn]

You don't see a 23 yo Holmes or a 24 yo Smith (first season off an ACL) improving next season?

We have also added Worpel as a solid 3rd/4th rotation, and look like regaining Bruhn.

Maybe it won't be enough to challenge the Brisbanes of the world, but there's not much else we can do having chased Rowell and Butters only for both to stay put.

Holmes and Smith are too old to get any better. Marshall though is the perfect age to start his career fresh in the most difficult role on the field apparently

Fair enough, hand on heart I didn't realise Holmes was that young. Bit of a Saints nuffie here! He's already been great for the Cats, If you see him improving again, then happy days.

Smith's already very good as well, but I reckon he's reached his ceiling until he matures a bit which he's sure to do at Geelong if he stays put.

I guess Worpel and Bruhn count as improvements, great to see that Geelong aren't panicking: sign of great club management.

Marshall is not a great tap ruck but he's great around the ground, completely different to what I remember of Stanley (though I haven't watched him much since his grand final sprint in our colours ;-) I can see him making a big difference in Chris Scott's side. Better midfielders around him should remove his instinct to blindly belt it out of stoppage. I can see him working well with Blicavs, another player i greatly admire.

Yes, Rowan is in the autumn of his career but but he's a good fit for a club challenging right now, which we aren't and you are. I am divided on his cultural impact at St Kilda, he's been a bit of a beacon, but at times as a leader I've found him a little complacent personally, which may be unfair, but he's been part of a farly passive senior group for a while. He's a pretty positive easy going fella which is good, but we needed more than that. Ah well.

The Saints are finally moving on from this senior group as culture setters, which is part of the reason he's got a foot out the door. I think he'll be a better fit coming into another club as just another player and let the stronger club culture take care of that side.

He gave us a few really good years, should have really won a B&F in 2019. 2025 wasn't great for him, he didn’t have a pre-season due to a fairly serious bone injury (don’t recall which one - pelvis?). If his body holds out he should easily give you 3 more years of good service.

I will be happy enough to see him win stuff with the Cats. Let's hope Ebenezer Mackie comes to the party on Wednesday, it would be a shame for us to spoil this trade period by letting our one-time "prospect" go so cheaply.