Autopsy Saints sink Dockers

[luca77]

One interesting thing with Boxshall coming in.
Nas, Sincs, Windhager no centre bounce attendances between them.

In the case of Sincs, generally it's a win if we don't have to bring him in. Probably Nas too. And Windhager made good use of his running power on the wing.

Box attended 39%, probably mostly in the first half.

Clark was attending about 30% when he was in the team (seems like a lifetime ago, but was R1,R2). So it shows Clark and Boxshall are playing a similar role there.

Nas and Sincs were attending more CBs in the run of 3 losses we had, in which Jones and Owens were spending a fair bit of time in there too. In other words, Jones/Owens wasn't cutting it against those midfields.

My point is that Boxshall/Clark's role is pretty important structurally for us, freeing up Sincs/Nas to do their thing and allowing us to keep Owens forward (and manage Jones!).

(Sincs did spend time in the guts vs. Adelaide when Clark played, but since then Garcia has moved in there full time)

 

[austinnn]

Just quietly, how about a cheer for the rosy-cheeked secret weapon Max Hall? Been at an AFL club for 6 months played VFL with Sandy then BOOM! Comes in at the start of the season and plays every game (so far).

StMike wasn't wrong was he? This bloke can find the ball and uses it so well and is keeping oppo defenders very very honest and frustrated! Let's hope this year growing with our other young guns washes all that brown and yellow out of his heart!

 

[smooth_mover]

I'm from Perth, Freo fans are pretty similar to us. A touch of pessimistic humour, they enjoy the game but don't make it a part of their personality.

West Coast fans on the other hand...they're a seriously strange bunch, I probably dislike them the most out of any code. Their fans are insufferable, snobby and entitled.

As a WA person, this has been my experience as well. Watching West Coast fans struggle to make sense of their current predicament has been an experience. The real 5 stages of grief.

Only thing I'd add is that all my Freo loving mates act like a jilted exes when it comes to Ross Lyon. Constantly poking and prodding about whether I hate him yet.

 

[Remboy]

Fifth highest score for the round. Just saying.

 

[LuckyBounce!]

Fifth highest score for the round. Just saying.

It’s Ross Lyons job to help Fremantle score apparently

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Ross getting big wraps

 

[SaintsSeptember]

That perception is so far from reality. How anyone could come to that conclusion is beyond me.

Carlton have been absolutely elite in their diabolical incompetence over the past 25 years, both administratively and on the field.

Being a so-called "big club" doesn't grant them any right to claim superiority.

The perception of Gringo's Carlton supporting mates.

 

[magd2992]

What’s up with RoMa? Been disappointing this year. Is he carrying something?

 

[BrutThough]

What’s up with RoMa? Been disappointing this year. Is he carrying something?

Part of it is the impact of not having a preseason. You cant make up that training missed in season.

 

[gringo2011]

A couple more things

- as good as our defenders have played. In terms of dropping off, creating an extra number. Coming off their man.

Stock, Doug , web, Wilkie , etc.
no surprise as the experience comes back this improves.

Things I love atm

• I could be wrong but the tackling improved out of sight.
• I love lancey. He’s playing at about 5% of what he can be but every game he just shows some class. He’ll break out one of these games.

Pumping games into young guys

- maxy hall, windy , lance, LOC , Wilson Hugo just get them all all to 50/100 games asap

- we are a much better team when Chito gets up the ground. I don’t care what the coaches say, his impact around the ball and at stoppage is real.

cooper break out.

I still think his hand injury took some confidence from him. Almost every highlight on the afl website had him in it.

Sharman was badly managed for a long time. Consistent games and a position to develop in are pretty basic ways to maximise improvement. King going down was probably a win for Coops.

 

[KingJim]

Because Bucks actually has a clue regarding strategy and coaching

Yea exactly, even though he struggles to get a word in with Gary Lyon the hothead, but we love hearing opposing views from people who have played/coached the game. They agreed, ROSS knows what he's doing. he talks leadership concepts even other coaches don't always get.

 

[KingJim]

Open question;
is it considered softcore crossing to the Freo rooms as there is player shirtless where nips are showing, and should the coverage have crossed to the empty desk sooner than they did?

I thought it was riveting watching seeing all the posers in the rooms trying to get photos and get into camera shots

 

[hayes]

One interesting thing with Boxshall coming in.
Nas, Sincs, Windhager no centre bounce attendances between them.

In the case of Sincs, generally it's a win if we don't have to bring him in. Probably Nas too. And Windhager made good use of his running power on the wing.

Box attended 39%, probably mostly in the first half.

Clark was attending about 30% when he was in the team (seems like a lifetime ago, but was R1,R2). So it shows Clark and Boxshall are playing a similar role there.

Nas and Sincs were attending more CBs in the run of 3 losses we had, in which Jones and Owens were spending a fair bit of time in there too. In other words, Jones/Owens wasn't cutting it against those midfields.

My point is that Boxshall/Clark's role is pretty important structurally for us, freeing up Sincs/Nas to do their thing and allowing us to keep Owens forward (and manage Jones!).

(Sincs did spend time in the guts vs. Adelaide when Clark played, but since then Garcia has moved in there full time)

We tend to go to Nas and Sinclair when things aren’t going well in there but when you’re dominating contested possession and clearance we all know Ross isn’t going to change a winning combo. I think the biggest learning though was you can’t have all of Macrae, Steele and Windhager in the midfield at the same time.

 

[Leap of Faith]

As a WA person, this has been my experience as well. Watching West Coast fans struggle to make sense of their current predicament has been an experience. The real 5 stages of grief.

Only thing I'd add is that all my Freo loving mates act like a jilted exes when it comes to Ross Lyon. Constantly poking and prodding about whether I hate him yet.

Lived in Perth for 10 years, partly during the period before the Dockers existed and partly during the period Cousins, Kerr et al were snorting their way to a flag. And I totally concur that WCE fans are the worst of all. Their myopia is limitless along with their capacity to spout whatever drivel has been in The West Australian that morning. Arrogant, entitled knobs so I can only imagine how they'll be whinging it up these days. I detest them nearly as much as Carlton and that's a lot of detestation right there. I hope Reid leaves, they're racked by in house fighting and lack of unity and they remain uncompetitive for a looooong time. Long may they suffer.

 

[Hubnester]

So, finally home. It was an interesting game to go to, the first half had few highlights but overall it was an absolute domination. We controlled every aspect of the game until we broke their spirit, and then spent the second half kicking goals over their lifeless corpses.

Probably not saying much that hasn't already been said.

Jimmy Webster

29

Jimmy Webster

Age

32

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

was immense, it was a great outing for the old boy.
Garcia didn't miss a beat after the attention he copped during the week, glad he got a goal to cap it off as well.
Boxshall looked comfortable at the level and contributed well - particularly in the first half before the party started.
Sharman is a freak, we all knew that though.
Also very happy for Caminiti to snag one at the end, he was trying bloody hard haha.

 

[MordySaint]

Jimmy Webster was immense, it was a great outing for the old boy.

Underrated and needs more love, I reckon RTB picks him first everyweek.

He's reliable, tough, tenacious and skilled. Goes to the oppositions number 1 dynamic small forward week in week out.

His role in our team cannot be understated.

 

[pebblesofsand]

We tend to go to Nas and Sinclair when things aren’t going well in there but when you’re dominating contested possession and clearance we all know Ross isn’t going to change a winning combo. I think the biggest learning though was you can’t have all of Macrae, Steele and Windhager in the midfield at the same time.

I thought the biggest difference was no tags.

Helped us that Freo didn't tag Macrae but more importantly, it helped us immensely that Steele, Windhager, Garcia etc concentrated on getting the ball ahead of just stopping their opponent.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Underrated and needs more love, I reckon RTB picks him first everyweek.

He's reliable, tough, tenacious and skilled. Goes to the oppositions number 1 dynamic small forward week in week out.

His role in our team cannot be understated.

He’s been super this year

 

[Saints TV]

Happy Monday Sainters

 

[Barrels]

“Doctor, how many hours is too many to have an erection for after a win?

Interesting.”

I watched the replay again…

 

[CaptainRisky]

I thought it was riveting watching seeing all the posers in the rooms trying to get photos and get into camera shots

That absolute Toss Pot in the light Blue sports jacket just needed a kick in the nads to sort him out , then his clown mate in the same jacket joined in, late 40yos carrying on like 5 year old kids

 

[CaptainRisky]

“Doctor, how many hours is too many to have an erection for after a win?

Interesting.”

 

[bergholt]

Coaches votes

10 Jack Macrae STK
7 Cooper Sharman STK
6 Callum Wilkie

44

Callum Wilkie

Age

30

Ht

191cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

221.3

3star

D

12.6

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

223.1

3star

D

14.0

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.2

4star

MG

170.0

3star

STK
4 Mitch Owens STK
2 Jimmy Webster

29

Jimmy Webster

Age

32

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

STK
1 Marcus Windhager STK

 

[bergholt]

Coaches votes

10 Jack Macrae STK
7 Cooper Sharman STK
6 Callum Wilkie STK
4 Mitch Owens STK
2 Jimmy Webster STK
1 Marcus Windhager STK

Jimmy's first votes in 3 years!

 

[Hayes4PM]

Coaches votes

10 Jack Macrae STK
7 Cooper Sharman STK
6 Callum Wilkie STK
4 Mitch Owens STK
2 Jimmy Webster STK
1 Marcus Windhager STK

Spoiler: VOL-KANE-O