SANFL Mini Draft

[jarmanagic]

The Eagles and Sturt have both won flags in this millenium and the Eagles have played in other GFs in past years whereas Norwood have done a combined total of SFA in recent times. Glenelg, Port and South have been ordinary and hell even Westies have played in a GF, albeit theyre struggling now so I think its more than fair other supporters can have a crack at Norwood, or are they too precious ??

Ill admit im not a Redlegs fan and it sucks that we're in their country zone and I had to wear the guernsey, but I do not share the distain others do, Ive got many mates who play down there and I think the future is a lot brighter than some think, especially with young Tex spending some time there, but they are hardly the proud club they used to be. Too much b!tching and in fighting plus a coach who has no idea, the financial problems arent all.

As for our result in the Mini-Draft, dont know a huge amount about Mitch Farmer apart from the TAC Cup GF in which he was a star so hopefully he gets settled in well and plays some good footy, whether he starts in the Seniors or the 2's

Never said Norwood had it all right through this era (our worst since WW2). Clearly we haven't ( Dale Lewis as coach?????). Dont anyone dare treat us with disdain though. We are a great club, entitled to a bad run, happens to them all after all. We've still made the finals 26 of the last 33 years and won 5 flags in that time. Centrals (just) /Port ahead over that time the rest way behind

 

[- PC -]

Never said Norwood had it all right through this era (our worst since WW2). Clearly we haven't ( Dale Lewis as coach?????). Dont anyone dare treat us with disdain though. We are a great club, entitled to a bad run, happens to them all after all. We've still made the finals 26 of the last 33 years and won 5 flags in that time. Centrals (just) /Port ahead over that time the rest way behind

Way behind? Count Sturts again

 

[jarmanagic]

Way behind? Count Sturts again

33 years

Sturt win flags 74, 76, 2002, makes the finals about half those years = way behind

My very arbitary timeline of 33 years was based on

1. the fact I didnt want to include Sturt's golden run 66-70
2. Coincides with my lifetime of watching SANFL football (I turn 37 in about 90 minutes). Should have stopped at age 13

 

[hey shorty]

33 years

Sturt win flags 74, 76, 2002, makes the finals about half those years = way behind

My very arbitary timeline of 33 years was based on

1. the fact I didnt want to include Sturt's golden run 66-70
2. Coincides with my lifetime of watching SANFL football (I turn 37 in about 90 minutes). Should have stopped at age 13

Happy Birthday in 90 minutes tme then

The last 10-12 have been Norwoods worst by far. Its been pretty much a Dog Domination since then (which doesnt really look like stopping sadly) with a few clubs chopping in and pinching the odd flag, whereas the Legs have been next to nowhere. Louie as coach was a real bad move and Trevor Hill isnt that much better and until they get rid of him I cant see things improving a great deal.

 

[glengowan]

I'll accept cracks from Centrals fans, but the rest of the comp haven't exactly been flying you know.

Although all have played in finals more recently than the Redlegs...

 

[fightingdreamer88]

Poor Taylor.

Good luck to them all.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

I get the feeling that Andy Collins and being his first year as coach at Westies doesn't want too many AFL players in the mix for next season.

Probably sees Moran as either a replacement for Tippett or that they wont be seeing much of him.

 

[King Elvis]

We've still made the finals 26 of the last 33 years and won 5 flags in that time. Centrals (just) /Port ahead over that time the rest way behind

What about in the last 5 years?

 

[CrowMagnum]

33 years

Sturt win flags 74, 76, 2002, makes the finals about half those years = way behind

My very arbitary timeline of 33 years was based on

1. the fact I didnt want to include Sturt's golden run 66-70
2. Coincides with my lifetime of watching SANFL football (I turn 37 in about 90 minutes). Should have stopped at age 13

So you don't count the premierships they actually won. That's a really scientific analysis of the facts

 

[Tails14]

the ranger....good authority that he might play down back and maybe even on a wing a norwood.....

 

[Campbell's Chunky]

the ranger....good authority that he might play down back and maybe even on a wing a norwood.....

Id like to see him play wing/HF long term.

I don't think he's ever going to be a true KPP, so as a guy who covers a lot of territory around half forward is where I see Taylor playing. Hopefully dominating.

 

[fightingdreamer88]

Damnit Damnit Damnit. Walker and Kite, two key position prospects picked up by Norwood. Their track record with building the AFC's youngsters into quality AFL footballers is terrible these days. FD88 doesn't like it one bit.

 

[hey shorty]

I wouldnt think the Crows would want Tex going anywhere near the backline but on a wing wouldnt be a bad way to ease the boy into it. Same with Kite id say, being so slim and apparently not fond of heavy body contact, a spot on the wing in the 2's wouldnt be such a bad idea.

 

[ams4crows]

awesome my cousin will get to play with the ranger!! Top stuff!

 

[Drummond]

Damnit Damnit Damnit. Walker and Kite, two key position prospects picked up by Norwood. Their track record with building the AFC's youngsters into quality AFL footballers is terrible these days. FD88 doesn't like it one bit.

So because Meesen and Pfeiffer failed to develop as AFL footballers during their time in Adelaide, you are putting the blame entirely on the NFC? Meesen was given the entire 2006 season as our #1 ruckman as a 19/20 year old, and Pfeiffer made his debut at 17 and over the years has played solid league football for Norwood. And yet the Legs are to blame? FD88 please don't comment if you have no idea.

Norwood drafted Walker because he fitted a need and I have no doubts he'll get good development from the NFC, ditto with Kite.

I wouldnt think the Crows would want Tex going anywhere near the backline but on a wing wouldnt be a bad way to ease the boy into it. Same with Kite id say, being so slim and apparently not fond of heavy body contact, a spot on the wing in the 2's wouldnt be such a bad idea.

Yep I would think Kite will start in the reserves, probably in defence. Walker should start in the league team. I'll have to pay more attention to the reserves next year.

 

[fightingdreamer88]

The truth is Pfeiffer and Meesen failed to make it as AFL footballers at the AFC. Jericho is looking less and less likely. Campbell, well FD88 hopes he makes it but that'd be one from four. Not good whether Drummond likes it or not.

 

[Vader]

The truth is Pfeiffer and Meesen failed to make it as AFL footballers at the AFC. Jericho is looking less and less likely. Campbell, well FD88 hopes he makes it but that'd be one from four. Not good whether Drummond likes it or not.

Let's go through those individually.

Meesen - General concensus here is that he wanted to have it handed to him on a silver platter and wasn't prepared (didn't have the desire) to do the work to make it happen himself. He had a poor 2005, largely due to injury, spent mainly in the magoos. He had a good 2006, when he was given the opportunity to lead the Norwood rucks in the seniors. 2007 was a write off because of the knee injury he suffered playing for the Crows. Not sure how you can blame the redlegs for his development.

Pfeiffer - You keep on knocking him as a player, but I'm not sure why. His problems were ALL off field. When he got out on the paddock (and he did miss a lot of games through injury) the kid DID perform. I have little doubt that he would have made his debut in 2007 if he wasn't (allegedly) so fond of getting on the turps at every available opportunity. His non-selection was on principle rather than on performance. Once again, how is Norwood to blame?

Jericho - Was only transferred to Norwood midway through season 2007, having done all of his player development at Westies. Even so, the useless spud still managed 6 AFL games for the year - and got dumped after his best performance so that Roo could make his return. This one, above all, I really can't blame Norwood for.

Campbell - Did well enough playing for the Redlegs that he got drafted by the AFC. Then he missed a lot of the pre-season and the early H&A rounds with injuries sustained while training with the Crows. He did play one game of AFL and was unceremoniously dumped - I'm sure Craig had his reasons (something to do with a lack of accountability if memory serves me correctly), but most fans on this board (including me) thought he was hard done by. Campbell is the ONLY player whose development (or lack thereof) could be attributed to Norwood - and given that he won their club B&F in 2006, resulting in his drafting, it's hard to say that he hasn't been given every opportunity.

If you want to look at other failures, you might want to consider Chad Gibson as well. Was constantly injured and eventually delisted by the AFC because they realised he would never be able to get his body into a condition where he would be capable of playing AFL footy. Norwood's fault, or just Gibson's physiology?

What IS fair to say is that there have not been an abundance of players allocated to Norwood who have gone onto successful AFL careers in recent years. Massie being the notable exception. It would certainly be worth investigating the cause of these failures, but until you can present some solid arguments for the reasons behind these failures I suggest you back off from your constant jibes directed towards Norwood and their supporters.

The big question is how much of this is due to systemic failures at Norwood? How much of it is down to the players themselves? How much is just due to dumb luck? How much is due to the player development at Adelaide?

The latter is particularly worrying considering the number of draftees who spent long periods on the injury list in recent years - MacKay, Tippett (impact injury), Campbell & Gill all missed much of last year, Dangermouse & the Texas Ranger have both suffered soft tissue injuries already since being drafted this year.

 

[Tails14]

the injuries also have been minor and if you look at it by all accounts the rangers injury has been after heavy intense bike work which he is probably not used to...the bonus is that he has hit the gym and put on 8 kilos since arriving and that is on top of all the running and yet still maintained that weight gain...his mates said on the 3 k time trail he ran 10.52 jericho low 11 sellar high 11 and tippett low 12 so he has certainly got a good fitness base with which to work with and is impressing with his ball skills....bring on 2008 !!!!!

 

[IddyBiddy]

the injuries also have been minor and if you look at it by all accounts the rangers injury has been after heavy intense bike work which he is probably not used to...the bonus is that he has hit the gym and put on 8 kilos since arriving and that is on top of all the running and yet still maintained that weight gain...his mates said on the 3 k time trail he ran 10.52 jericho low 11 sellar high 11 and tippett low 12 so he has certainly got a good fitness base with which to work with and is impressing with his ball skills....bring on 2008 !!!!!

Holy crap

 

[Gets!]

8 kilos? Bloody hell, that is awesome.

 

[ICanDressMyself]

Who the fek is Mitch Farmer?

 

[hey shorty]

Who the fek is Mitch Farmer?

Was BOG for Calder in the TAC Cup GF this year IIRC and he really impressed me in that game but other than that I havent seen him play and dont know a great deal about him. In that game he kicked a few goals and totally dominated in the midfield. Should be a handy acquisition for the Blues next year, although id have rathered us take Jacky as a small crumber under the feet of Chambers and Sarge to help out Lukey Crane a bit.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Damnit Damnit Damnit. Walker and Kite, two key position prospects picked up by Norwood. Their track record with building the AFC's youngsters into quality AFL footballers is terrible these days. FD88 doesn't like it one bit.

Please name your SANFL club and list AFC listed players then.

 

[Mong]

I know some people are joking about Norwood but some appear to be serious. The SANFL clubs hardly 'develop' these players. They are AFC players and get all their development through the guidance of the AFC coaching staff. And then, on Saturdays they go and play SANFL football for two hours. Their SANFL club is not the be all and end all. Good players will aways come through no matter which SANFL team they are assigned to. Players that seem to have problems and switch clubs don't seem to do any better at another club funnily enough.

 

[IddyBiddy]

I know some people are joking about Norwood but some appear to be serious. The SANFL clubs hardly 'develop' these players. They are AFC players and get all their development through the guidance of the AFC coaching staff. And then, on Saturdays they go and play SANFL football for two hours. Their SANFL club is not the be all and end all. Good players will aways come through no matter which SANFL team they are assigned to. Players that seem to have problems and switch clubs don't seem to do any better at another club funnily enough.

Actually it is a good point, does anyone know the time that rookie and SANFL gameday listed players have to spend with their local club (in terms of training, meetings etc)? Do they do all their sessions with AFC then just rock up for the two hours?