Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 5 - The stroll out.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 6.

Play Nice - Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 6 - Prosperity Theology, The Coal Man + His Bootlickers

Part 5 is here: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/scott-morrison-how-long-part-5-the-stroll-out.1275975/

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[Gough]

Given there are a number of inferred understandings of "secular", do you?

I prefer the term "pluralist".

Which rules concocted by religious lunatics do you want removed, that haven't already been?

The murder one? The theft one?

That's the thing about the faithful, it's the certainty with which they lay claim to morality despite all the evidence to the contrary. You don't need a faith to know that killing or thieving is wrong.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Not really, to hold a faith requires blind obedience. Secularism requires no such thing.

Ah, the old "absence of belief" argument.

That's why atheists are all over social media preaching their philosophy and ridiculing the other. It's not an ideology, of course, it's just a way of thinking which is intolerant of alternatives.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

That's the thing about the faithful, it's the certainty with which they lay claim to morality despite all the evidence to the contrary. You don't need a faith to know that killing or thieving is wrong.

Actually, that's the problem I have with atheists. Such certainty in the absence of evidence.

 

[Crankyhawk]

To be fair to Trump, who is without question a pig of a man, you reckon if they could pin association with pedos on him they’d have done that by now.

That’s not what I meant
Was more that (as I understand it) that a tenet of Qanon is that trump was going to cleanse out pedos.

 

[Rich]

Thread successfully derailed again.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

And?

And I would be guided by the 36yo as to whether I should make a police report. Indeed, and please don't take this as any sort of support for Houston, I know very little about him, but why is it for Houston to report his father to the police? Is the adult survivor not capable?

 

[Crankyhawk]

Given there are a number of inferred understandings of "secular", do you?

I prefer the term "pluralist".

Which rules concocted by religious lunatics do you want removed, that haven't already been?

The murder one? The theft one?

Not in Australian context but a lot of the sharia Muslim type ones, things that dictate what women wear etc

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Not in Australian context but a lot of the sharia Muslim type ones, things that dictate what women wear etc

If the government had laws mandating any form of religious observance, I'd be opposed to them.

I am opposed, for instance, to Christmas and Easter being public holidays. Not vehemently opposed, they just seem silly.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Given there are a number of inferred understandings of "secular", do you?

I prefer the term "pluralist".

Which rules concocted by religious lunatics do you want removed, that haven't already been?

The murder one? The theft one?

The religious didn't come up with the idea that you don't murder or steal. Any decent person could come to those conclusions all by themselves. I wouldn't expect you to understand but I will carry on.

Section 116 of the Constitution deals with the rest of your nonsense.

The religious continue to hold us to ransom. Only an idiot (you for example) would even attempt to argue otherwise. Religion is the very thing that denied my grandmother a dignified death given the crazies continue to block what should be basic rights such as assisted dying laws.

How much did that plebiscite to allow gays to marry cost us? How is it that churches are tax exempt? I identify as a Jedi, can I get a tax deduction for my Star Wars box set? Or are tax breaks only for state-sanctioned religious organisations?

You'd have to be quite literally braindead to take your position.

 

[Gough]

The religious didn't come up with the idea that you don't murder or steal. Any decent person could come to those conclusions all be themselves. I wouldn't expect you to understand but I will carry on.

Section 116 of the Constitution deals with the rest of your nonsense.

The religious continue to hold us to ransom. Only an idiot (you for example) would even attempt to argue otherwise. Religion is the very thing that denied my grandmother a dignified death given the crazies continue to block basic rights such as assisted dying laws.

How much did that plebiscite to allow gays to marry cost us? How is it that churches are tax exempt? I identify as a Jedi, can I get a tax deduction for my Star Wars box set? Or are tax breaks only for state-sanctioned religious organisations?

You'd have to be quite literally braindead to take your position.

I can think of one member of the religious right who hasn't been to church since the decade began with an eight, it's just a game for some of them.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

The religious didn't come up with the idea that you don't murder or steal. Any decent person could come to those conclusions all by themselves. I wouldn't expect you to understand but I will carry on.

Section 116 of the Constitution deals with the rest of your nonsense.

The religious continue to hold us to ransom. Only an idiot (you for example) would even attempt to argue otherwise. Religion is the very thing that denied my grandmother a dignified death given the crazies continue to block what should be basic rights such as assisted dying laws.

How much did that plebiscite to allow gays to marry cost us? How is it that churches are tax exempt? I identify as a Jedi, can I get a tax deduction for my Star Wars box set? Or are tax breaks only for state-sanctioned religious organisations?

You'd have to be quite literally braindead to take your position.

Show me a Presbyterian who can get a tax deduction for his Biblical texts.

Otherwise, your insult laced rant is nonsensical.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Show me a Presbyterian who can get a tax deduction for his Biblical texts.

Otherwise, your insult laced rant is nonsensical.

Nonsensical?

It's not the atheists that block assisted dying laws.

I note that you made no comment about the debunked myth that the religious have mandated that nobody steal or kill.

And I'm talking nonsense?

 

[Gough]

Internal polling must be bad too if they're now trying to control the narrative so blatantly. Per the Graund blog.

ABC issues new social media guidelines to staff


The ABC has released new social media guidelines and warned staff that their employment is at risk of they breach them.

“The ABC will be updating its employment contracts to make this clear,” ABC MD David Anderson told staff on Monday morning.

Everything that is posted on personal social media accounts is editorially and legally the responsibility of the owner of the accounts, the new guidelines say.

Anderson said staff should not have any reference to the ABC in their username and should have a disclaimer making it clear that posts are their personal view.


Most personal social media activity has no bearing on the ABC and there is no intent to constrain anyone’s activity outside the workplace,” Anderson said.

The primary concern is when personal social media activity reflects badly on the ABC’s independence and integrity, or when a poorly judged post or series of posts or ‘likes’ compromises perceptions of the impartiality of someone in an ABC role where maintaining impartiality in the public eye is crucial.”

So, to protect yourself and the ABC, I offer this simple piece of advice: If you are posting, liking, or sharing something on personal social media that is work related or about a matter of public controversy – ask yourself if it’s something you would also say, write, or share on an ABC platform. This is particularly important for those who have a high profile or senior role within the ABC.”

 

[Burro]

Savva isn’t a good person.

Savva has been an LNP sycophant for a very long time. I think she was recently "let go" from a certain newspaper and maybe now she is trying to be an actual journalist.

 

[Gough]

Savva has been an LNP sycophant for a very long time. I think she was recently "let go" from a certain newspaper and maybe now she is trying to be an actual journalist.

She's a classical Lib though and totally alienated from what the party has become.

 

[Burro]

Nonsensical?

It's not the atheists that block assisted dying laws.

I note that you made no comment about the debunked myth that the religious have mandated that nobody steal or kill.

And I'm talking nonsense?

There's a lot of inconvenient stuff in that Bible...... Let's ignore that bit. Aleluyah brother.

 

[Burro]

She's a classical Lib though and totally alienated from what the party has become.

Yes, her comments are generally useless.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Nonsensical?

It's not the atheists that block assisted dying laws.

I note that you made no comment about the debunked myth that the religious have mandated that nobody steal or kill.

And I'm talking nonsense?

If you have no understanding of the origins of western democracy, I can't help you.

As for assisted dying laws, spend 3 months working in the Probate field to see why they are dangerous.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Savva has been an LNP sycophant for a very long time. I think she was recently "let go" from a certain newspaper and maybe now she is trying to be an actual journalist.

I love her dumbed down criticisms of the LNP, she belts them around with a limp lettuce leaf whilst trying to convince everybody that she isn't a shill. Her performance on Insiders yesterday was a joke.

 

[Dave]

But labor. Is that all you've got?

That and his imaginary sky fairy.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

If you have no understanding of the origins of western democracy, I can't help you.

As for assisted dying laws, spend 3 months working in the Probate field to see why they are dangerous.

It has nothing to do with the origins of western democracy. The Christians quite literally believe in a talking snake.

Inherently moral people don't need some clown returning from a mountain with a set of rules caved in stone to tell them not to kill each other.

Like I said, I don't expect you to understand when people talk about morals.

 

[Burro]

Ah, the old "absence of belief" argument.

That's why atheists are all over social media preaching their philosophy and ridiculing the other. It's not an ideology, of course, it's just a way of thinking which is intolerant of alternatives.

I think that there is quite a long history of religion ridiculing the people. Even Hitler said he was a Christian. How about the debate over evolution. There are just so many examples.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

It has nothing to do with the origins of western democracy. The Christians quite literally believe in a talking snake.

Inherently moral people don't need some clown returning from a mountain with a set of rules caved in stone to tell them not to kill each other.

Like I said, I don't expect you to understand when people talk about morals.

I tell you what morals are not........they're not joining with the mob on every single populist cause without regard for the broad consequences of folding to that mob.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

I think that there is quite a long history of religion ridiculing the people. Even Hitler said he was a Christian. How about the debate over evolution. There are just so many examples.

I agree, although I wouldn't run too hard on the Hitler being Christian thing.

But Christianity does preach one thing missing in this "new atheism" thing. Forgiveness. It seems the "new morality" has borrowed almost every tenet of its ideology from Christianity, right down to the ridiculous notion of "original sin", except for that one key belief. Forgiveness.