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Nonbinding, so the Puppet can do as he likes, but some good Republicans are beginning to show they have a conscience. Hagel would make a very good candidate in 2008, but won't get the Bible Pounders....
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Senate committee repudiates Bush on Iraq
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - In a calculated snub of
President Bush, the Democratic-controlled
Senate Foreign Relations Committee dismissed plans for a troop buildup in
Iraq on Wednesday as "not in the national interest" of the United States.
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"The president has made his decision," Vice President
******** Cheney fired back, a response that made it clear the administration would go ahead anyway. "We need to get the job done."
The 12-9 committee vote, mostly along party lines, capped hours of debate in which Republicans and Democrats vented their frustration and anger _ both with the administration and their own past unwillingness to change the course of a war that has claimed the lives of more than 3,000 U.S. troops.
"There is no strategy. This is a pingpong game with American lives," said Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska.
"This Congress was never meant to be a rubber stamp," added Sen. Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., "Read the Constitution. The Congress has the power to declare war. And on multiple occasions, we used our power to end conflicts."
Hagel was the only one of 10 committee Republicans to support the nonbinding measure. Several of the panel's 11 Democrats said they favored stronger legislation to register their opposition to the war.
In the wake of midterm election losses, Bush announced two weeks that he would order an additional 21,500 troops into the war zone. In Tuesday night's State of the Union address, he implored skeptical lawmakers to give the strategy a chance.
Bush got his answer in less than 24 hours, the timing dictated by Democrats, and Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record). D-Del., the panel's chairman, said tougher measures were likely to follow.
"Unless the president demonstrates very quickly that he is unlikely to continue down the road he's on, this will be only the first step. ... I will be introducing ... constitutionally legitimate, binding pieces of legislation. We will bring them up," he said.
Taken together, the committee's vote and Cheney's response suggested the Democrats and the White House were on a collision course _ lawmakers drafting ever-stronger measures to change policy in Iraq, and the president exercising his prerogatives as commander in chief _ and his veto pen.
"We are moving forward," Cheney said in an interview with CNN in which he was asked about the troop buildup. "The Congress has control over the purse strings. They have the right, obviously, if they want, to cut off funding. But in terms of this effort, the president has made his decision."
The vice president added: "We've consulted extensively with them. We'll continue to consult with the Congress. But the fact of the matter is, we need to get the job done."
Inside the Senate committee, all Republicans but Hagel opposed the measure, denying Democrats the strong bipartisan vote they had sought.
Biden, who has announced he intends to run for president in 2008, said the legislation is "not an attempt to embarrass the president. ... It's an attempt to save the president from making a significant mistake with regard to our policy in Iraq."
Democrats intend to bring the measure to the Senate floor for a vote next week, and Biden said he is willing, in the interim, to make changes in the hopes of gaining additional Republican support.
Some committee Republicans sought unsuccessfully to temper the measure before it was approved. Additionally, more than a half-dozen GOP lawmakers in the Senate have signaled interest in an alternative that merely expresses disagreement with the president's policy rather than deeming it not in the national interest.
"The thing that I'm deeply concerned about is putting American troops in the middle of this _ the cross-hairs of this sectarian battle before the Iraqis" deliver on a series of promised reforms, said Sen. Norm Coleman (news, bio, voting record), R-Minn.
While he said he opposes deploying additional troops in Baghdad, Coleman added he wants to leave open the possibility of a bigger force in the Anbar province in the western part of the country.
Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record) of Indiana, the committee's senior Republican, readily conceded he was not sure Bush's new policy would succeed. But he voted against the measure, saying, "It is unclear to me how passing a nonbinding resolution that the president has already said he will ignore will contribute to any improvement or modification of our Iraq policy."
Lugar also said sponsors of the measure were underestimating their power to force a change.
"We have the ability to require weekly updates from our diplomats and military commanders about the status in Iraq. We should be engaging the administration on almost a daily basis concerning the mission and needs of our troops," he said.
"We should demand of the president precise explanations of his political and diplomatic strategy. We should conduct what amounts to a continuous audit of our economic assistance, to ensure that we are maximizing results."
Some of the most emotional rhetoric of the day came as committee members challenged one another to take a stand.
"If you wanted a safe job, go sell shoes," said Hagel.
"This is a tough business. But is it any tougher, us having to take a tough vote, express ourselves and have the courage to step up on what we're asking our young men and women to do?"
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Senate committee repudiates Bush on Iraq
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - In a calculated snub of
President Bush, the Democratic-controlled
Senate Foreign Relations Committee dismissed plans for a troop buildup in
Iraq on Wednesday as "not in the national interest" of the United States.
ADVERTISEMENT
"The president has made his decision," Vice President
******** Cheney fired back, a response that made it clear the administration would go ahead anyway. "We need to get the job done."
The 12-9 committee vote, mostly along party lines, capped hours of debate in which Republicans and Democrats vented their frustration and anger _ both with the administration and their own past unwillingness to change the course of a war that has claimed the lives of more than 3,000 U.S. troops.
"There is no strategy. This is a pingpong game with American lives," said Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska.
"This Congress was never meant to be a rubber stamp," added Sen. Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., "Read the Constitution. The Congress has the power to declare war. And on multiple occasions, we used our power to end conflicts."
Hagel was the only one of 10 committee Republicans to support the nonbinding measure. Several of the panel's 11 Democrats said they favored stronger legislation to register their opposition to the war.
In the wake of midterm election losses, Bush announced two weeks that he would order an additional 21,500 troops into the war zone. In Tuesday night's State of the Union address, he implored skeptical lawmakers to give the strategy a chance.
Bush got his answer in less than 24 hours, the timing dictated by Democrats, and Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record). D-Del., the panel's chairman, said tougher measures were likely to follow.
"Unless the president demonstrates very quickly that he is unlikely to continue down the road he's on, this will be only the first step. ... I will be introducing ... constitutionally legitimate, binding pieces of legislation. We will bring them up," he said.
Taken together, the committee's vote and Cheney's response suggested the Democrats and the White House were on a collision course _ lawmakers drafting ever-stronger measures to change policy in Iraq, and the president exercising his prerogatives as commander in chief _ and his veto pen.
"We are moving forward," Cheney said in an interview with CNN in which he was asked about the troop buildup. "The Congress has control over the purse strings. They have the right, obviously, if they want, to cut off funding. But in terms of this effort, the president has made his decision."
The vice president added: "We've consulted extensively with them. We'll continue to consult with the Congress. But the fact of the matter is, we need to get the job done."
Inside the Senate committee, all Republicans but Hagel opposed the measure, denying Democrats the strong bipartisan vote they had sought.
Biden, who has announced he intends to run for president in 2008, said the legislation is "not an attempt to embarrass the president. ... It's an attempt to save the president from making a significant mistake with regard to our policy in Iraq."
Democrats intend to bring the measure to the Senate floor for a vote next week, and Biden said he is willing, in the interim, to make changes in the hopes of gaining additional Republican support.
Some committee Republicans sought unsuccessfully to temper the measure before it was approved. Additionally, more than a half-dozen GOP lawmakers in the Senate have signaled interest in an alternative that merely expresses disagreement with the president's policy rather than deeming it not in the national interest.
"The thing that I'm deeply concerned about is putting American troops in the middle of this _ the cross-hairs of this sectarian battle before the Iraqis" deliver on a series of promised reforms, said Sen. Norm Coleman (news, bio, voting record), R-Minn.
While he said he opposes deploying additional troops in Baghdad, Coleman added he wants to leave open the possibility of a bigger force in the Anbar province in the western part of the country.
Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record) of Indiana, the committee's senior Republican, readily conceded he was not sure Bush's new policy would succeed. But he voted against the measure, saying, "It is unclear to me how passing a nonbinding resolution that the president has already said he will ignore will contribute to any improvement or modification of our Iraq policy."
Lugar also said sponsors of the measure were underestimating their power to force a change.
"We have the ability to require weekly updates from our diplomats and military commanders about the status in Iraq. We should be engaging the administration on almost a daily basis concerning the mission and needs of our troops," he said.
"We should demand of the president precise explanations of his political and diplomatic strategy. We should conduct what amounts to a continuous audit of our economic assistance, to ensure that we are maximizing results."
Some of the most emotional rhetoric of the day came as committee members challenged one another to take a stand.
"If you wanted a safe job, go sell shoes," said Hagel.
"This is a tough business. But is it any tougher, us having to take a tough vote, express ourselves and have the courage to step up on what we're asking our young men and women to do?"
