SFNL Division 1 2023 discussion

[Bunk Moreland]

It’s certainly an issue is that area as it is in many.

Every year there are senior clubs going under in Vic and this year has been an acute case, feels like 5-10 have gone out of business.

The problem in every case has been playing numbers.

One thing I am noticing is I think we are seeing the rise of really big clubs (in metro areas anyway) which surely must be having an impact on other clubs ability to get significant playing numbers.

It is hard in footy, in basketball or cricket you can basically have a club with five or ten blokes and a few fill ins.

You need a minimum of 50 players for a senior footy club which puts the pressure on smaller clubs.

It’s not just footy or sport, in all walks and businesses, it often seems that the big get bigger and the small get squeezed and pushed out. People want to get involved and be associated with the big successful clubs and numbers breed more numbers.

The big VAFA clubs, I mean some have seniors, reserves, 2x thirds, 2x Under 23s, 2x U19s… up to eight men’s teams. It must impact other clubs.

 

[Billy the Lid]

Those clubs would make a great comp geographically

Geographically for sure. Competitively it would be a disaster. Hate to say it but A grade VAFA teams Old Brighton and Old Melburnians would deliver some frightful hidings to the likes of Black Rock, Elsternwick and Hampton Hammers. I’m all for a geographically based comp but it needs to have multi divisions and competitive results.

 

[bedford]

Geographically for sure. Competitively it would be a disaster. Hate to say it but A grade VAFA teams Old Brighton and Old Melburnians would deliver some frightful hidings to the likes of Black Rock, Elsternwick and Hampton Hammers. I’m all for a geographically based comp but it needs to have multi divisions and competitive results.

Got 1 for you

 

[sammelb80]

Not long now
Any news of recent signings
Clubs must be starting praccy matches now, any good match ups happening?

 

[notalegent]

Any practice games happening. Hear that St Paul's played a scratch match last weekend against Montmorency.

 

[bedford]

Any practice games happening. Hear that St Paul's played a scratch match last weekend against Montmorency.

They were supposed to play Ormond this week and pulled out as someone double booked and they have a camp !

 

[Scotty_222]

Mordi play Chelsea this weekend

 

[sammelb80]

Mt Eliza knocked off Bentleigh by 40 odd points
Unsure on the strengths of the teams but not a terrible result considering the quality of the MPNFL

 

[bedford]

St Pauls double booked for this week were playing Ormond like normal , but someone else had booked a camp !
Chelsea Heights playing Ormond next week

 

[bedford]

Chelsea must be battling. Have cancelled a praccy game this weekend at the 11th hour with only 21 available mostly 2s. Disappointing with such short notice provided. Isnt round 1 next weekend?

Chelsea Heights ?

 

[iDon]

Chelsea Heights ?

Apologies wrong div.

 

[whowantstoknow]

Any practice matches in div 1 this saturday

 

[bedford]

Any practice matches in div 1 this saturday

Chelsea Heights have pulled the pin with Ormond at late notice , same as St Pauls last week , City v East Brighton now only 1 game

 

[gotherosellas]

Chelsea Heights have pulled the pin with Ormond at late notice , same as St Pauls last week , City v East Brighton now only 1 game

City v east brighton called off completely not sure why

 

[bedford]

City v east brighton called off completely not sure why

Shocking goings on, infact pathetic

 

[MortlockWatcher]

I can't believe why so many practice matches have been canned - especially one week before Round 1.

I really do hope it is not a portent into what the home and away season is going to be like.

 

[batfink]

Shocking goings on, infact pathetic

Ground not safe to play on
Cricket pitch area not ready
Embarrassing for Bayside council
All junior games on Sunday also have to be cancelled

 

[bedford]

Ground not safe to play on
Cricket pitch area not ready
Embarrassing for Bayside council
All junior games on Sunday also have to be cancelled

Bayside also in charge of Elsternwick Park , this is what happens when you privatise . They knew when cricket would finish .

 

[Robos]

Port colts play Point cook tmrow

 

[bedford]

Chelsea Heights have pulled the pin with Ormond at late notice , same as St Pauls last week , City v East Brighton now only 1 game

Chelsea Heights with 1 team played Ormond 3rds at Peninsula , pulled away at the end to win by about 4 goals

 

[batfink]

City v east brighton called off completely not sure why

Bayside coucil balls up
Are now playing Tuesday night in a shortened session
2x 20 mins reserves
2x 25 mins seniors

 

[Billy the Lid]

Chelsea Heights with 1 team played Ormond 3rds at Peninsula , pulled away at the end to win by about 4 goals

Bit confused. Could CH not find enough players for 2 teams or was that the plan all along? And why Ormond's 3rd team? Where your 1s and 2s booked to play someone else?

 

[bedford]

Bit confused. Could CH not find enough players for 2 teams or was that the plan all along? And why Ormond's 3rd team? Where your 1s and 2s booked to play someone else?

CH could only get 1 team , so Ormond played a mixture of 3rds and 19's as had quite a few out and the seniors played Peninsula , both games were at Peninsula Grammar

 

[Billy the Lid]

CH could only get 1 team , so Ormond played a mixture of 3rds and 19's as had quite a few out and the seniors played Peninsula , both games were at Peninsula Grammar

Thanks for the response. Don't know the circumstances and perhaps there was a wedding or other reason but not great for CH to be battling for numbers a few weeks out from Rd 1. Probably a concern for the league also to have a Div. 1 side in this position. Lots of clubs in very close proximity scraping over players.

Again I don’t know the strength of what they put out on the weekend but if what you say is correct (and I have no reason to doubt it), for CH to just get over a mid-table (based on last year) C grade ammo club’s 3rds is perhaps of bigger concern. How will they fare against Chet, Cranny etc?

 

[turn it up]

Thanks for the response. Don't know the circumstances and perhaps there was a wedding or other reason but not great for CH to be battling for numbers a few weeks out from Rd 1. Probably a concern for the league also to have a Div. 1 side in this position. Lots of clubs in very close proximity scraping over players.

Again I don’t know the strength of what they put out on the weekend but if what you say is correct (and I have no reason to doubt it), for CH to just get over a mid-table (based on last year) C grade ammo club’s 3rds is perhaps of bigger concern. How will they fare against Chet, Cranny etc?

Chelt knocked off St Bedes from B Grade Ammos on the weekend also.