Analysis Should Melbourne rebuild like Richmond if they struggle in 2025?

[Mr.X]

Looks like the choice has been made for them.

 

[Yoda_]

Won one flag and carried on like they were guaranteed a few more. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger waste of prime years

Essendon 99 - 04 was a travesty if you want to know

 

[Yoda_]

Thanx for a top 5 pick Dees

 

[Liam Boy]

for no man's land, seems like a lot of men are in there these days

 

[T2B_]

Think they have a personality problem with the likes of Oliver etc. On paper they should be good, but they have dudes running around who don't give a **** and have ego issues. Need to cut them out and reboot with the kids.

Harvey Langford today put most of their mids to shame, and hes a second gamer.

 

[projectv]

No Man's Land is getting a bit crowded now.

 

[Yoda_]

No Man's Land is getting a bit crowded now.

No mans land is being stuck in purgatory.. Think the real no mans land.. Essendon

Stuck between 7th - 15th for the best part of two decades

St.Kilda even look like they have there shit sorted.. Melbourne just look like legging it to the bottom handful

 

[charcoalchicken]

Meh.

They won a flag. Job done.

Covid flag though, sucks for there supporters

 

[demondavey]

Won one flag and carried on like they were guaranteed a few more. You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger waste of prime years

 

[demondavey]

Huh?

Wouldn't every club that didn't win a flag during their prime years meet that criteria??

He barracks for the WB…. They don’t do logic

 

[demondavey]

Looking like spoon contenders at the moment.

Really should have won 2 or 3 flags with the list they had.

People forget how good they were travelling in the first couple of months 2022 after the flag. They were destroying teams and it was looking like a dynasty. Then they just...kind of lost their aura?

Got found out at the G against Fremantle in about round 11. In fact we were smashed.

 

[demondavey]

Covid flag though, sucks for there supporters

Ah ok, COVID doesn’t count. Sorry, remind us all how it would have been relevant if you’d won it?

Still in the books last time I checked…..

 

[demondavey]

Don't think they're in no mans land, already got some good youngsters and will likely trade some big names to bring in a heap more end of year.

Who are the good youngsters?

 

[Shane Heard]

Should’ve given Jackson 1.8 a season.

He’s in such hot form right now that Jackson.

 

[demondavey]

Essendon 99 - 04 was a travesty if you want to know

Beyond 01 is a bit rich….

 

[demondavey]

Should’ve given Jackson 1.8 a season.

He’s in such hot form right now that Jackson.

He wanted cuddles with his mummy

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Who are the good youngsters?

Windsor, Lindsay, Langford, Rivers, McVee, Bowey.

Might not be the core u can build around but they're all solid players.

 

[Shane Heard]

He wanted cuddles with his mummy

Should’ve brought his mother over and bought her a house in Glen Iris.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Looks like the choice has been made for them.

You would think so but the club still has to make that choice.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Looking like spoon contenders at the moment.

Really should have won 2 or 3 flags with the list they had.

People forget how good they were travelling in the first couple of months 2022 after the flag. They were destroying teams and it was looking like a dynasty. Then they just...kind of lost their aura?

Drank their bathwater

 

[BigVic]

Covid flag though, sucks for there supporters

Won in Perth away from the 'G. Last two MCG Grand Final they lost by 96 and 60 respectively in 1988 and 2000.

 

[Handsuper47]

Those back-to-back straight sets finals exits probably did damage than what we think

 

[Shane Heard]

Those back-to-back straight sets finals exits probably did damage than what we think

Which in all seriousness was a complete backline failure. When May and Lever have a rough night, they are going to leak 3 or 4 goals.

If you don’t have a rock solid coherent back 6 working together like a well oiled machine..then you’ll lose the semi or pre lim to an inform likewise team who has a decent mid and fwd line personal.

And of course Gawn has been a massive part of their modern day recent success and now he’s finally slowing down.

All empires eventually fall…

 

[Stottzy]

Apart from 2000's St Kilda, up there with the biggest waste of opportunity, with the talent they've got, in history!

 

[Freomaniac]

This.
Also it takes so much more than good luck with recruiting players.
Richmond was rebuilding from the Mid 80s to mid teens. It wasn't until we got our Board, admin, coaching/assistant coaches, development and high performance staff, finance, recruiting network etc. etc. etc. that we got some success after a biblical period in the wilderness.
There's absolutely no guarantee that the current rebuild will pay off
Richmond were forced into their current predicament by equalisation, lack of player development, horrific run of injuries, quality players leaving, management change, coach bailing mid season etc. We were lucky we got some good deals and lots of picks in what was apparently a very good draft year. It wasn't something Richmond planned in 2023 or early 2024. It's just how it worked out. In the best case scenario, were not contending again for several years.

It's not scorched earth because we've still got lots of experienced premiership players to provide some protection and leadership, but a massive gamble none the less and not one you'd take deliberately.

Always respected your wise opinion Grin.

That post 1982 grand final period for Richmond was brutal. There was the player wars between Richmond and Collingwood in the mid 1980s where players switched from one team to the other.



But I say the slow gradual turn around was when Kevin Bartlett coached your side from 1988 to 1991. Yeah Richmond won only 27 games in that 4 year period.

The most important bit was some young blokes in Wayne Campbell, Matty Knights and Brendon Gale for their debut games and development under the Kevin Bartlett 1988-91 period.

That set up Richmond regularly contending for finals between 1994-2001.