No Oppo Supporters Shrugging a tackle vs ducking

[Zouz Kitty]

Scott drilling Clarkson again on 360. Beautiful stuff.

Scott was terrific.
Scott:
Misinformation = Lies
Conflates = Meld, except most think 'confuse'
Mischievous = Malicious

For those who missed AFL360 on Monday -
Scott:
"To align shrugging a tackle with issues we have with concussion is mischievous at best."
"I don't think there is anyone out there saying shrugging a tackle to evade is leading to head issues or concussion."
In response to Richardson's Selwood's head gets bandaged every second week: "But never evading a tackle. + I think the other unfortunate thing that happens when this sort of misinformation is spread, is that people, who don't really know or haven't seen it, just assume that 'Oh, he ducks his head into tackles' + it couldn't be further from the truth. But again, not enough people will listen to this, + they say he's [Dwarf] is right, he [Selwood] gets concussed all the time because he shrugs tackles. It's wrong."

Richardson:
"Joel's motive, from my perspective, has always been to evade the tackle, to get clear. . .+ not trying to get free kicks."

Scott was right to state the facts that Selwood had three concussions, not 10 as the Dwarf stated.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

I know that and understand that - I've split my head open a few times and never lost consciousness or had a concussion.

But anti-Selwood people decide that a head knock = concussion. I think they only apply that to Selwood though and not their own players

Puopulo learnt the hard way against the Tigers lol Tackled by Lloyd with Grimes getting stuck into PooPoo for dropping his knees for a free kick. Then during the break Grigg suggested that PooPoo was going for a free kick. Funnily, the Dwarf replied that PooPoo's shrugging was an evasion tactic.

Brad Scott entered the discussion saying the ball player should be rewarded, but if the ball player contributes to the high contact, it's play on.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Sicily with a week the dwarf should just STFU.

If Hocking was not overseeing the MRP, would Sicily have been let off?

Sicily deliberately kneed Selwood in the head, after the tackle, but how many Hawks players were unsanctioned for worse?

 

[Tristan34]

If a players wins.his own ball then he has to be protected and he uses that rule to his advantage...

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Pendlebury was right in saying it's the tacklers responsibility to execute correctly, which is to go for the hips.

If Clarko is concerned about concussions then king hitting from behind as he did on Ian Aitken in an exhibition game then running from the scene is far more concerning at all levels.

Clarkson is your typical bully. Can dish out the thuggery, but when it's served back in spades, runs off to the hills. It's the same with his players. It's well known that Hawks' thuggery is encouraged. It's rarely been penalised at the Tribunal. So now, when Sicily is suspended, the Dwarf has to distract people from a thug being penalised by pretending to care about 'concussion'. Are posters on our board the only ones who can see the transparency of the Dwarf's attempt? The Dwarf exaggerates Selwood's three concussions to 10! Has the Dwarf said anything since Scott put him in his place? IF Clarkson was truly serious about preventing concussions then Sicily would be reprimanded for his blatant knee to Selwood's head!

The solution is very simple! Stop tackling high! Tackle around the waist, pinning the arms. Ball player drops the ball + it's a turnover. It's not rocket science.

AM, thanks for posting that video, which just proves what an idiot the Dwarf is in this instance! Wonder what the Dwarf imagined the result would be to focusing on Selwood?

 

[Zouz Kitty]

I love this. It’s not like Joel and Joe were ever teammates either. Joe doesn’t have to “stick up for him”

In 2015 Carey supported Joel + said he does not duck!

If you're interested, here is the link
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...n/news-story/e676bd777a5bf0218a04b98ebade86ee

 

[Sttew]

In 2015 Carey supported Joel + said he does not duck!

If you're interested, here is the link
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...n/news-story/e676bd777a5bf0218a04b98ebade86ee

Carey said it again the other night on TV

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Carey said it again the other night on TV

I rest my case Judge Sttew!

PS Thanks for telling me that Sttew, being in NSW, just starved of AFL non-Swans/GWS news

 

[Sttew]

I rest my case Judge Sttew!

PS Thanks for telling me that Sttew, being in NSW, just starved of AFL non-Swans/GWS news

Think it was on On the Couch(?). Selwood was being interviewed, and when Carey made the comment that Joel doesn't duck, Joel responded with something like, "Thanks Duck"

 

[Zouz Kitty]

So would the media. He’d be compared to Lethal daily.

No thanks

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Umpiring Aussie rules is already very difficult. Umpires are told to not pay the high free if the tackled player caused the high contact. In the moment that’s very hard to judge.

I guarantee we will see some false negatives with selwood for the next few weeks because umpires need simple cues to make decisions and they will see its Joel and not pay it, even when it’s there (as most are).

But why? Umpires need to be instructed to rule according to the rules, as best they can. If they ignore high tackles on Joel, it's wrong! They're being influenced by the Dwarf, who is wrong with his obstruction tactic. Free kick as long as the ball player does not contribute to the high tackle.

 

[Partridge]

It got mentioned in this little chat the other day too:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-04-10/who-is-the-best-captain-in-the-afl

 

[Art Vandelay_]

It got mentioned in this little chat the other day too:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-04-10/who-is-the-best-captain-in-the-afl

Pick the Hawthorn fan on the panel

 

[Pumpernickel]

Anyone else think that opposition teams have worked out that tackling Joel's arms is a better option than wrapping his arms.
His shrugging seems to have dropped off since it peaked in the media earlier on in the season. Who would of thought tackling legally could actually work