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Instead of using a pick in the draft on a fast player, why don't they look for one in a trade.

I was wondering can you trade for a rookie? If so, Carlton should trade for Stefan Garrubba, has explosive pace and great skills, but he is a rookie on the swans list. He went to school with me and looked the goods.
 
Brad Pearce said:
Instead of using a pick in the draft on a fast player, why don't they look for one in a trade.

I was wondering can you trade for a rookie? If so, Carlton should trade for Stefan Garrubba, has explosive pace and great skills, but he is a rookie on the swans list. He went to school with me and looked the goods.


No doubt we need some pace but at what cost, I pray that the draft provides us with the best talent available most likely a midfielder with great skills first. Second pick will definitely be the best available defender regardless of who else is available. Then its any ones guess most likely a young ruckman.

Remember the use of the high pick must be on someone with great skills first. We have all seen fast players with poor skills come and go @ the blues. Clarke from the cats is best illustrated as a speed star who skills were average, Chambers is another & Walker also shows that he is let down sometimes by poor disposal.

If Stefan is the best available (hopefully the swans don't elevate or re rookie him) I'm sure we will look at him closely.
 
Brad Pearce said:
Instead of using a pick in the draft on a fast player, why don't they look for one in a trade.

I was wondering can you trade for a rookie? If so, Carlton should trade for Stefan Garrubba, has explosive pace and great skills, but he is a rookie on the swans list. He went to school with me and looked the goods.
You don't say! :rolleyes:

Why isn't he getting a game if he's so good?

Phillips did.
 

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Brad Pearce said:
Instead of using a pick in the draft on a fast player, why don't they look for one in a trade.
Sam Mitchell showed again on the weekend that it's more important to know where the ball's going to be than it is to have blistering pace.

We need natural footballers in the middle. Consistent clean first possession and disposal will make any side look quick.
 
AlecDuncan said:
Sam Mitchell showed again on the weekend that it's more important to know where the ball's going to be than it is to have blistering pace.

We need natural footballers in the middle. Consistent clean first possession and disposal will make any side look quick.
very well said

pace alone is not enough, we need footballers, if they are quick then its an added bonus
 
garubba has had 2 years on our rookie list and isnt even showing much in the canberra league - will be the first player cut from the swans at season end
 
AlecDuncan said:
Sam Mitchell showed again on the weekend that it's more important to know where the ball's going to be than it is to have blistering pace.

We need natural footballers in the middle. Consistent clean first possession and disposal will make any side look quick.
exactly ! ...how quick was Greg Williams folks ?
 
Blues_Man said:
exactly ! ...how quick was Greg Williams folks ?
williams had a quick mind

that is the difference in todays footy, we look at who can run the quickest, jump the highest rather who can actually play football.

a comment was made by (i think) malcolm blight and he said the 1st club who can bite the bullet and revert back to the old style of football, where you have a team built around footballers rather than athletes will enjoy a sustained period of success and will pull the pants down of the rest of the competition for quite a number of years.
 
bibi01 said:
williams had a quick mind

that is the difference in todays footy, we look at who can run the quickest, jump the highest rather who can actually play football.

a comment was made by (i think) malcolm blight and he said the 1st club who can bite the bullet and revert back to the old style of football, where you have a team built around footballers rather than athletes will enjoy a sustained period of success and will pull the pants down of the rest of the competition for quite a number of years.

How true,

there is no point in having a fast, strong athlete if they make the wrong decisions or have no natural feel for the game and the changing tempo's throughout.

To be able to pass accurately hand/foot and know what you're doing and why is more important that dashing 100m in 10 seconds.

You don't need to be fast in this game if you can kick the ball into a team-mates hands or shoot a bullet like pass that will get to its destinatination cleanly.

The issue really is that if you face a team filled with pacey players, how would the slower, better thinking and better skilled team match up?
 
bibi01 said:
a comment was made by (i think) malcolm blight and he said the 1st club who can bite the bullet and revert back to the old style of football, where you have a team built around footballers rather than athletes will enjoy a sustained period of success and will pull the pants down of the rest of the competition for quite a number of years.

It won't work.

I doubt that there are enough footballers about of this 'ilk' that blight (or whoever) was talking about. If there was one individual side would not get their hands on enough of them to make it work. Besides, although superior skills and more one on one contests make for a better spectacle, there is no prove that a game based solely on skills would win out against a more athletically based game, I doubt it personally. Our best bit is to try and have the best of both worlds.
 

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bibi01 said:
a comment was made by (i think) malcolm blight and he said the 1st club who can bite the bullet and revert back to the old style of football, where you have a team built around footballers rather than athletes will enjoy a sustained period of success and will pull the pants down of the rest of the competition for quite a number of years.

It won't work.

I doubt that there are enough footballers about of this 'ilk' that blight (or whoever) was talking about. If there was, one individual side would not get their hands on enough of them to make it work. Besides, although superior skills and more one on one contests make for a better spectacle, there is no prove that a game based solely on skills would win out against a more athletically based game, I doubt it personally. Our best bet is to try and have the best of both worlds.
 
Pafloyul said:
It won't work.

I doubt that there are enough footballers about of this 'ilk' that blight (or whoever) was talking about. If there was one individual side would not get their hands on enough of them to make it work. Besides, although superior skills and more one on one contests make for a better spectacle, there is no prove that a game based solely on skills would win out against a more athletically based game, I doubt it personally. Our best bit is to try and have the best of both worlds.
Agree, a balance of athletes and natural footballers would work well IMO.
 

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