Solomon

[The Night Shift]

You do have to wonder though....if it didnt come out in the press and the coaching staff knew about it, would he still get suspended??

exactly my thoughts on the matter....

 

[Keys]

not one of the youngsters.
been mentioned around before by a few people who have seen him out pretty late an not in very good condition.

Dont bother guessing i wont confirm it.
Just know he gets up to a heck of a lot worse than solly an people he parties with arent the type you would expect a professional footballer to be hangin with on weekends.

Aslong as he shows up to training all the time an isnt effected during training its no big deal what they get upto on weekends after games.

Sounds like a West Coast poster re Ben Cousins circa 2006/07

 

[Moo]

phwoar... harsh Moo. Very harsh.

I know but I was 50/50 if it is in our best interests to extend his contract anyway.

Wasn't it after the Ling episode that Solly was going to re-pay the club, well getting on the piss aint repayment.

FFS you get booted out of a crappy amatuer state team for less, send a message and send it consistently. At 29 - it is not going out for a beer, it is breaking team rules as a senior member of the team...should of known better and I'd rather it be him than a mid ranger who may offer something. Should of known better, obviously does not.

Personally I wouldn't extend Solly or Headland ...both may be best 22 next year but are unlikley to be the year after.

I want to hit this next draft hard - to me bye bye to Browne, Gilmore, Murphy, Headland, Solly, Drum.

If we want to upgrade De Boer, Broughton and Pearce cutting 6 will give us 3 picks.

Connelly is gone, personally I'd dump O'Brien too and not re-rookie and Mundy can be traded too.

Love how he plays but he is not part of the future, and with acts like this he is not disciplined enough - FFS this is the AFL not the OFA.

 

[Keys]

Those alcohol bans over there must be getting to you Moo

 

[Moo]

Those alcohol bans over there must be getting to you Moo

It used to piss me off in my playing days that my team mates would hit the piss and lessen our chances of winning.

At 29, being out at 3AM and drinking alcohol is going to lessen your performance and increase your chances of getting in strife.

As a former coach at a state level in another sport (ie not footy) - it wasn't the depth of the rule break ...ie it was just a smoke, just 1 beer, we were out just for a bit -it was the disrespect for team goals and putting yourself ahead of the team. You want to win and be the best then that means sacrifice.

Solly I assure you would of been part of the group that made these rules, and anyone who sees themselves above these rules sees themselves above the team.

We have always had an issue with discipline and coaching control in our club and it has not served us well at all.

You are a professional footballer, you know the drill - you have a few months a year and then the rest of your life to **** around in. Don't like it - come and work 9 to 5 with the rest of us and give your spot to a kid who wants it.

If Solly can have a beer and be out, then how do you tell Walters or De Boer or Palmer to pull their heads in.

 

[shibz_1989]

You break the rules as a senior member - not to be tolerated.

As far as I am concerned /career.

I actually said this to my boyf today. He laughed at me...Solly is what, almost 30, and has been suspended countless times since we got him. As much as I love him, I think this will be it for him

PS Moo puts it beautifully.

 

[Moo]

I actually said this to my boyf today. He laughed at me...Solly is what, almost 30, and has been suspended countless times since we got him. As much as I love him, I think this will be it for him

PS Moo puts it beautifully.

Schibizzle - you and I are too beautiful for this world.

 

[Tazmania]

it wasn't the depth of the rule break ...ie it was just a smoke, just 1 beer, we were out just for a bit -it was the disrespect for team goals and putting yourself ahead of the team. You want to win and be the best then that means sacrifice.
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and who doesn't suspect this is what has been at the heart of the Fremantle cultural problem for a long time...?

Good on Harv's for not disrespecting those team goals too, which is what would have happened had he let Solly off.

 

[Chops_a_must]

If Solly can have a beer and be out, then how do you tell Walters or De Boer or Palmer to pull their heads in.

This is what gets me though, Moo.

We know Grover and two other anonymous Freo players were staggering around drunk at 7am in the morning, yet only Peake gets suspended.

Why?

This is public knowledge FFS!

If it's fair for one, it's fair for all. But the obvious inconsistency is a joke...

 

[samseenee]

This is what gets me though, Moo.

We know Grover and two other anonymous Freo players were staggering around drunk at 7am in the morning, yet only Peake gets suspended.

Why?

This is public knowledge FFS!

If it's fair for one, it's fair for all. But the obvious inconsistency is a joke...

But Grover is the future of this club.. He consistently beats his man week in week out and is brilliant up forward as our new "swing man"....

 

[samseenee]

Does Solly get droped like Mc Veigh as well?

Did he miss training?

See Lach I can foresee the future!!
But no he didnt miss training...

 

[Moo]

This is what gets me though, Moo.

We know Grover and two other anonymous Freo players were staggering around drunk at 7am in the morning, yet only Peake gets suspended.

Why?

This is public knowledge FFS!

If it's fair for one, it's fair for all. But the obvious inconsistency is a joke...

Chops I don't know this - we ahve a different public here.

If true, I could not give you an answer.

Rules have to applied equally - especially this year it is not a hard year to be tough and set the platform.

 

[ImperialPurple]

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=12&ContentID=152490

Just part of the article:

Discipline part of education process: Harvey
2nd July 2009, 16:30 WST

Fremantle coach Mark Harvey says the disciplinary action taken against rugged utility Dean Solomon this week is part of an “education process” that his players are being put through.
Solomon and Brett Peake have been dropped in the past fortnight for their involvement in unrelated late-night drinking sessions.

Solomon, who was out with former Essendon teammate Mark McVeigh during a club-sanctioned extended stay in Melbourne after the Dockers’ loss to Collingwood, is likely to line up with WAFL club Perth this week.

“We’re trying to educate them through the best way to prepare to become an elite team,” Harvey said.

“Sometimes individuals will step over the line and with a young group we need to teach them, point them in the right direction, and this is another example of that.

“Perhaps our policy is stricter than other clubs’. We let Dean stay (in Melbourne) for other reasons, not for that.

“In the end in comes down to the individual and what he thinks is going to get him to the elite level regularly and get the best out of himself.

“You don’t want to hinder your preparation at all and part of this is an education process for everyone.”

 

[nesski47]

So he stayed out a little late and maybe had a few too many to drink?

Doesn't seem like much to suspend a guy over.

Some of Harvey's team mates would have done that the night before a game back in the day.

Clubs are now over reacting to this sort of stuff

some of harv's team mates did this at half time of the game back in the day!

 

[samseenee]

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=12&ContentID=152490

Just part of the article:

Discipline part of education process: Harvey
2nd July 2009, 16:30 WST
“We’re trying to educate them through the best way to prepare to become an elite team,” Harvey said.
”

Is this not what almost everyone on this board has said at some point.
We just want FFC to be an elite team of the AFL.
Let Harvs do his bloody job and turn the lads into a premiership contender and set the right examples from the outset!