Club History South Melbourne club song before "Cheer, Cheer, the Red and the White" ?

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Ticky009

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But hang on, "Springtime in the Rockies" was only published in 1929.


What did we sing from 1874 till then?
The first AFL club song didn't appear until 1906.

Near as I can work out.
1) Springtime in the Rockies (1932-1961)
2) Cheer Cheer the Red and the White 1961-
3) Before 1932 the tune of 'Madamoiselle from Annentieres.' might have been the one. Because the timeline of the song originates in WWI. Which is less than a decade after the first AFL song appeared (Collingwood in 1906). It's possible we picked up the tune in the aftermath of WWI as the club song. It sure sounds like one if you read the words we used for the tune (refer pge 1 link.


History of Swans club song:

"Victory March" is the fight song for the University of Notre Dame (South Bend, Indiana). The music and lyrics were written by Rev. Michael J. Shea and his brother John F Shea, both Notre Dame graduates. The song was first performed by Rev Shea on the organ at a church in Holyoke, Massachusetts where his former music teacher was musical director. That was in 1908. In 1909, it was performed for the first time at Notre Dame. The lyrics were revised in the 1920s and copyrighted by Notre Dame in 1928. The Swans, still based in Melbourne as South Melbourne, received permission to use it in 1961, renaming it "Cheer, Cheer The Red And White" for their team. Their previous song had been an adaptation of "Springtime in the Rockies" by Gene Autry often called "America's singing cowboy". The Swan lyrics were written by former South Melbourne player Larry Spokes (61 games, 1946 - 1950).

The "Victory March" is used by several other footy teams - East Fremantle (men's and women's) in the WAFL and Launceston in the Tasmanian State League (TSL). as well as other teams around the world including the Northern Lights (AFL Canada- National Women's team) and the Northwind (AFL Canada - National Men's team), the Ottawa Swans Men's and Women's teams in the CAFL Ontario league and the USAFL's Chicago Swans and Houston Lonestars.
 
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Kidding, right?
The first AFL club song didn't appear until 1906.

Near as I can work out.
1) Springtime in the Rockies (1932-1961)
2) Cheer Cheer the Red and the White 1961-
3) Before 1932 the tune of 'Madamoiselle from Annentieres.' might have been the one. Because the timeline of the song originates in WWI. Which is less than a decade after the first AFL song appeared (Collingwood in 1906). It's possible we picked up the tune in the aftermath of WWI as the club song. It sure sounds like one if you read the words we used for the tune (refer pge 1 link.


History of Swans club song:

"Victory March" is the fight song for the University of Notre Dame (South Bend, Indiana). The music and lyrics were written by Rev. Michael J. Shea and his brother John F Shea, both Notre Dame graduates. The song was first performed by Rev Shea on the organ at a church in Holyoke, Massachusetts where his former music teacher was musical director. That was in 1908. In 1909, it was performed for the first time at Notre Dame. The lyrics were revised in the 1920s and copyrighted by Notre Dame in 1928. The Swans, still based in Melbourne as South Melbourne, received permission to use it in 1961, renaming it "Cheer, Cheer The Red And White" for their team. Their previous song had been an adaptation of "Springtime in the Rockies" by Gene Autry often called "America's singing cowboy". The Swan lyrics were written by former South Melbourne player Larry Spokes (61 games, 1946 - 1950).

The "Victory March" is used by several other footy teams - East Fremantle (men's and women's) in the WAFL and Launceston in the Tasmanian State League (TSL). as well as other teams around the world including the Northern Lights (AFL Canada- National Women's team) and the Northwind (AFL Canada - National Men's team), the Ottawa Swans Men's and Women's teams in the CAFL Ontario league and the USAFL's Chicago Swans and Houston Lonestars.
Thank for that Ticky. Very interesting.

Raises two points -

1. What is it with the Notre Dame song and clubs called the Swans?

2. How strange that we should have chosen not one, but two American songs in our history, and Collingwood also chose an American song, in an era when Australia was still far more beholden to British culture.
 

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Thank for that Ticky. Very interesting.

Raises two points -

1. What is it with the Notre Dame song and clubs called the Swans?

2. How strange that we should have chosen not one, but two American songs in our history, and Collingwood also chose an American song, in an era when Australia was still far more beholden to British culture.
WE MIGHT HAVE GOT EARLY MAIL THAT THE SEPTICS ARE NO GOOD
 

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Thank for that Ticky. Very interesting.

Raises two points -

1. What is it with the Notre Dame song and clubs called the Swans?

2. How strange that we should have chosen not one, but two American songs in our history, and Collingwood also chose an American song, in an era when Australia was still far more beholden to British culture.
As per this article it might have come down to something as simple as being able to obtain the copywrite to the songs.

 

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