Spring Racing

[iluvparis]

He was caught wide from the moment he left the gates, are you suggesting he should have thrown all plans out the window and settled last after missing the kick by half a length? Something tells me that wasn't the instructions he was given.

He went to push forward, copped a check, had to balance up and go forward again

I would hope a top class jockey is cool enough in a crisis to re-evaluate pre race instructions if things don't go to plan after being tardy away.

 

[Windy At Moorabbin]

I'm on Pierro for the Cox Plate, so I'm not as confident about him winning as I was prior to yesterday but still up about his chances. ATH is a much better horse in Melbourne than what he is in Sydney (last couple runs in SYD he was totally lost but battled on well) and has to have races run to suit, which he got yesterday and not to mention he is a well above average horse.
My main worries in the Cox Plate are the 2040m and the chance of drawing another bad marble. The pluses are C.Williams and Moonee Valley (loved the way he railed in the Stutt) and the fact most CP's of late are run at a slow clip.

 

[iluvparis]

Craig Williams is now riding Green Moon saint.

 

[sethlad]

Willo jumps off Pierro onto Green Moon,interesting move considering he's not booked for GM @ Flemington.
So Gai needs two riders who can make the 3yo weight & neither will have ridden the horses before.
Is there gunna be some serious wasting in the next fortnight

seth

 

[iluvparis]

TVN boys @ Cranbourne advertising Dean Yendall as a light weight option.

 

[HurlsMeister18]

the run they gave PIERRO on tuesday might have taken the edge off him a little bit as well.

He didn't look as good in the coat yesterday as he did when he was at the valley two weeks ago. He looked like a machine that night.

 

[Lockyer24]

The run beat him if anything

Proisir has a bit of a Savabeel feel about him this ye

Thousand Guineas day just picked out a few

Two first starters who trialled great - Laduree and Sistine Demon

Like Maybe Discreet in the big one gets better with trip

 

[davis_756]

No point making excuses for Pierro, simply not the champion he was made out to be.

All too hard was always going to get better with distance.

 

[plays tall 1]

Looking at the sectionals in the herald sun it seems that the sectionals for the first 800m of the guineas were the slowest of the day - 47.72. Sectionals for first 200m also the slowest of the day - 12.23.

Time for the race was 1.36.05 according to HS.

Andre Kassay and Daniel O'sullivan both suggesting early speed was extreme.

Am I missing something here? Are the HS times wrong?

 

[Ricketts]

lol at everyone having a go at Nash.

Watch the replays and tell me what he could have done different

Not try and ride every horse the same way regardless of circumstances.

 

[KardiniaPark]

Not try and ride every horse the same way regardless of circumstances.

I think it has alot to do with his personality. He's very much a poached egg and slippers man. He just doesn't have the dare of a G.Boss and as such, he really needs a race to pan out perfectly and fall into his lap rather than grab it by the neck and shake it like most other. Plus he's a bird faced ****

 

[Gavin Excell]

Cox Plate shaping as one of the poorest in years and thats saying a lot given recent editions have been average.

WFA Championship of the country my ar$e

 

[sethlad]

Can you believe there's $6 available Pierro @ betfair?
Green Moon now fave

seth

 

[Selective Retention]

Williams jumping ship an indication it's an unlikely runner (or at least some doubt)?

Surely Gai would go nuts otherwise, especially after she was unable to get Nash back through the courts when he had pre committed to Rangi (I think it was) a little while back. Shoe on the other foot, surely she would fight it.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Can you believe there's $6 available Pierro @ betfair?
Green Moon now fave

seth

That price suggests Pierro won't run

would Green Moon rate alongside Pinker Pinker and Savabeel on the honour roll? I mean, Green Moon.

 

[iluvparis]

Agree, betfair price, jockey switch, plus talk on TVN today suggests there must be a big chance he won't run.

 

[mayhem]

Whats this new allegation about Damien Oliver?

 

[iluvparis]

Allegedly bet $10,000 on another horse in a race he rode in

 

[davis_756]

Allegedly bet $10,000 on another horse in a race he rode in

Strange to get caught like that, usually their managers do all that stuff for them.

 

[mayhem]

Hes seems to have been under a cloud for a while now.

 

[davis_756]

Commanding Jewel still providing overs for everything else in the Thousand Guineas. Molto Bene, Lady of Harrods, Members Joy & Maybe Discreet should all start shorter then her.

 

[iluvparis]

Strange to get caught like that, usually their managers do all that stuff for them.

It was through a third party allegedly.

 

[sethlad]

Cox Plate market suspended by most corporates

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Can't lay Pierro for less than $24 on Betfair.

See ya!

 

[Ricketts]

Yeah something is happening.... screenshot from twitter a bit ago could lay Pierro at $480... hmmmm.