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Gough said:
Steve Waugh's like the John Howard of cricket, looked great at the time but has left a shithouse legacy.
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Steve Waugh began playing when the Windies were a force with Ambrose and co bouncing teams out and giving send offs. I've got no problem with the banter back then.

It got out of control with Ponting's team on occasion (see McGrath) when they couldn't get their own way. Clarke's team was horrible. So is Smith's. Warner is a rolled gold flog.
 
TW Sherrin said:
Steve Waugh began playing when the Windies were a force with Ambrose and co bouncing teams out and giving send offs. I've got no problem with the banter back then.

It got out of control with Ponting's team on occasion (see McGrath) when they couldn't get their own way. Clarke's team was horrible. So is Smith's. Warner is a rolled gold flog.
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McGrath was as juvenile under Waugh as he was under Ponting; probably more so actually (Sarwan incident, yelling in Sachin's direction after dismissing him during an SCG Test).

In general, Waugh's team was not well behaved.
 
I wont stand by someone who thought they would get away with it and gave the deed to someone else to do.

Smith has no respect - yes there is ball tampering all the time but not premeditated like this
 

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The apologists makes me sick, you are simply condoning cheating by giving Smith a second chance

Nope he needs to be banned from international level along with the other involved. It may appear harsh but if you don’t go hard it gives others the opportunity to do it again in the future.
 
DaRick said:
McGrath was as juvenile under Waugh as he was under Ponting; probably more so actually (Sarwan incident, yelling in Sachin's direction after dismissing him during an SCG Test).

In general, Waugh's team was not well behaved.
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McGrath and Brett Lee were horrific. The double standards re Rabada's actions and McGrath's and Lee's were laughable.

What I always found most galling was when under Clarke blokes like Siddle and Bollinger would pull the same stunts. You're an arsewhole whoever you are when you do it, but at least McGrath and Lee had earned a right to be an arseh*le.
 
Cursed_Cat said:
I don't want him back, ever.

Don't care if other countries have pulled the same crap; we should set our own standards and unmitigated cheating is completely unacceptable.
Australian Cricket has been wallowing in its own holier-than-thou hubris for years, time to create a new culture, one that doesn't prioritize winning over fair play.

I'd be axing every single player involved in the planning and execution of this blatant act of cheating and installing a new captain; anything less is tantamount to condoning systemic cheating.
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This

It’s been a long time coming with the piss poor attitude from CA and the team for years and years.
 
Amazing Racer said:
I wont stand by someone who thought they would get away with it and gave the deed to someone else to do.

Smith has no respect - yes there is ball tampering all the time but not premeditated like this
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Smith, Lehmann, Bancroft and Warner should already of been let go. They should be copping life bans. As a proud Australian I am absolutely appalled by their actions. They should be ashamed of themselves. Any player who knew of this tampering and didn't say anything should also cop a 1 year ban. Many negatives, but one positive is that Lehmann will go, and we can now rebuild this team properly. It was never that good of a side anyway. Lets get back to basics and build a side of cricketers who play the game fairly.
 
Farm Boy said:
Smith, Lehmann, Bancroft and Warner should already of been let go. They should be copping life bans. As a proud Australian I am absolutely appalled by their actions. They should be ashamed of themselves. Any player who knew of this tampering and didn't say anything should also cop a 1 year ban. Many negatives, but one positive is that Lehmann will go, and we can now rebuild this team properly. It was never that good of a side anyway. Lets get back to basics and build a side of cricketers who play the game fairly.
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This is what terrifies me. My enduring memory of underarm is Rod Marsh shaking his head and saying don't do it mate.



Why didn't anyone in that changeroom have the balls to say that? (aside from the fact that once you're on Steve Smith's shit list you never play again)
 
jo172 said:
McGrath and Brett Lee were horrific. The double standards re Rabada's actions and McGrath's and Lee's were laughable.

What I always found most galling was when under Clarke blokes like Siddle and Bollinger would pull the same stunts. You're an arsewhole whoever you are when you do it, but at least McGrath and Lee had earned a right to be an arseh*le.
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Agree that McGrath and Lee (particularly McGrath) were probably lucky to play under a different system. I had (and have) limited sympathy for someone who managed to build a record in just over two years plus pick up more than one charge in the same game though (which Rabada did).

Bollinger was a bit of a twat, but he didn't play much under Clarke.
 
Strange Cat said:
The apologists makes me sick, you are simply condoning cheating by giving Smith a second chance

Nope he needs to be banned from international level along with the other involved. It may appear harsh but if you don’t go hard it gives others the opportunity to do it again in the future.
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When all the other countries start doing this we'll be sure to follow suit.
 
craffles said:
Think there has been a massive over reaction and a lot of blokes throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Plenty of other countries have been involved with ball tampering incidents and their players have continued playing. The PC Police need to chill out. So who is with me?

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Where's Allan when you need him?

 

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One thing this has proved is what a pisspoor Captain Smith is in the way he has handled the whole thing. He never inspired me listening to him in press conferences in the past and if there was a doubt in my mind it's been well and truly exposed for all to see. Can bat can't Captain a team any team to save himself.
 
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Truckosaurus said:
I look forward to Channel 9 telling us how 'brave' he is next summer.
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Slats and Warnie will be rehearsing their lines already. Although their challenge will be slipping it into the stories we all know and cherish of them eating pizzas and doing bombs at hotel pools.
 
I love the people who are coming out and saying " he owned up to it so that's a positive "
They only owned up coz the got ****ing caught
And to think they haven't been doing this before now is pretty naive
 
Farm Boy said:
Smith, Lehmann, Bancroft and Warner should already of been let go. They should be copping life bans. As a proud Australian I am absolutely appalled by their actions. They should be ashamed of themselves. Any player who knew of this tampering and didn't say anything should also cop a 1 year ban. Many negatives, but one positive is that Lehmann will go, and we can now rebuild this team properly. It was never that good of a side anyway. Lets get back to basics and build a side of cricketers who play the game fairly.
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Laughable. We are all appalled by their actions but no one is going to be given a life ban for that. Lose the captaincy, suspended for a couple of tests and he will lose millions in sponsorship deals, as well as the humiliation he will face. That is well and truly enough.
 

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