Stats observations

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I can't understand why the AFL were ever spruiking 17 or 18 as a record - did they have some sort of qualifier on it?

I think Champion Data started recording score times in 1998, so many records are just since then.

 

[red+black]

The Bears led the Swans 19 golas to 0 at half-time at the Gabba in 1993, and I'm sure they kicked the first 6 after the break as well. I heard the scoreline on the radio - 164 to 4 - you don't forget that sort of thing in a hurry.

We know this much. The Brisbane Bears kicked the first 19 goals and may have kicked as many as the first 27 goals.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1993/021619930516.html

Amazingly, after this incredible win, Brisbane lost 11 of their next 12 games.

No help with these videos:

 

[emuboy]

Geelong's 133-point demolition of the Fremantle Dockers today produced this margin for only the second time, and the first time in a home and away match.

The only other game to have a 133-point margin was the 1984 Preliminary Final, where Essendon thrashed Collingwood 28.6-174 to 5.11-41.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Posted these on Facebook so thought you'd like them.


Quite a few records in today's Geelong vs Fremantle game.

Geelong's highest ever score vs Fremantle. (24.14.158.)

The most goals Geelong's ever kicked vs Fremantle (24.)

Fremantle's equal lowest score vs Geelong (3.7.25.) (Also happened R20 in 2004 but, in that game, Geelong kicked 9.21.75.)

Geelong's highest ever win vs Fremantle (133 points.)
This smashed the previous record by a massive 59 points. (118 - 44 in R15 2008 which netted a 74 point win to Geelong and was also the game which had Dean Solomon reported for his elbow on Cameron Ling.)

133 points is also Ross Lyon's highest ever losing margin as a senior coach.

133 points is also Fremantle's highest ever losing margin.

A 133 point margin has only happened once before today and that was the 1984 Preliminary Final between Essendon and Collingwood which Essendon won with the scoreline 28.6.174 beating Collingwood 5.11.41.

The last time a team involving Ross Lyon was involved in a game where a margin was decided by 130+ points was R2 1991 where Melbourne defeated Fitzroy 180-49.

133 points is Geelong's highest winning margin since R20 2011 when they defeated Gold Coast 29.14.188 - 6.2.38 which is a 150 point margin.

Fremantle have now conceded 2 consecutive scores of 150+ in a Round 22 game.
Last year, Richmond kicked 25.5.155 which was Jack Graham's debut game.

Both games resulted in triple digit losses to Fremantle (104 last year and 133 today.)

133 points is also the highest winning margin for Gary Ablett since Round 13 2008 where Geelong beat West Coast 182-47 which was a 135 point win.

Gaz also became the 3rd verified VFL/AFL player today to notch up 300 games, 400 goals and 8000+ touches.

Gaz' all time highest winning margin is 157 points vs Richmond in R6 2007 so today's 133 points ranks as his 3rd highest margin.

Gaz' all time highest losing margin is 139 points vs Essendon in R6 2011.

133 points marks a new highest losing margin for 21 of Fremantle's players today with only Nathan Wilson playing in a game where the losing margin exceeded 133 points and that was the Hawthorn-GWS game of R15 2012 where Hawthorn won 28.25.193 defeating GWS 4.7.31 netting a margin of 162 points which, so far, is GWS' highest ever loss.

The following Geelong players have today's 133 point win as their personal best in a VFL/AFL game:

Ryan Abbott.
Mark Blicavs.
Patrick Dangerfield.
Cameron Guthrie.
Lachie Henderson.
Jack Henry.
Tim Kelly.
Jake Kolodjashnij.
Sam Menegola.
Daniel Menzel.
Jordan Murdoch.
Mark O'Connor.
Brandan Parfitt.
Scott Selwood.
Tom Stewart.
Jackson Thurlow.
Zach Tuohy.

Today marked the first time a VFL/AFL game finished with a score of 158-25.


Adding to those:

133 points is the highest losing margin in Freo's history (117 the previous highest and registered twice.)

133 points is Geelong's 8th highest winning margin in VFL/AFL history.

Geelong's 133 points has them equal 48th for greatest VFL/AFL winning margins.

 

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Richmond:
24 in a row at Punt Rd (1932-35)
23* in a row in Melbourne (to come, WBD, QF, SF/PF)
20* in a row in Victoria (record: 23 by Geelong 1952-53)
20* in a row at the MCG

The record winning streak at any ground is 29 by Geelong at Kardinia Park (2008-11).

 

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Most disposals in a H&A season:
787 - Tom Mitchell (2017) - 22 games
762* - TOM MITCHELL (2018) (* with 1 game remaining) - 21 games
748 - Wayne Richardson (1971) - 22 games
737 - Lachie Neale (2016) - 22 games
726 - Matt Crouch (2017) - 22 games
721 - Matthew Boyd (2012) - 22 games
720 - Chris McDermott (1992) - 22 games
701 - Dane Swan (2010) - 22 games
701 - Matthew Boyd (2011) - 22 games
700 - Dane Swan (2009) - 22 games

Most disposals in a season:
825 - Matt Crouch (2017) - 22+3 games
820 - Dane Swan (2010) - 22+4 games
802 - Dan Hannebery (2016) - 22+4 games
787 - Josh P. Kennedy (2016) - 22+3 games
787 - Tom Mitchell (2017) - 22+0 games
769 - Dane Swan (2009) - 22+3 games
765 - Terry Wallace (1983) - 22+3 games
762 - Patrick Dangerfield (2016) 22+2 games
762* - TOM MITCHELL (2018) (* with 1 game remaining, plus finals) - 21+0 games
760 - Dane Swan (2011) - 21+3 games

 

[red+black]

Wanted to see if 2018 was a high year for poor performing teams (it is):

Teams with at most, 5, 5.5 or 6 wins:

| 5W | 5.5W | 6W | | | 5W | 5.5W | 6W
\ 2018 | 4 | 4 | 4 | . . . | 2007 | 3 | 3 | 3
\ 2017 | 1 | 1 | 4 | . . . | 2006 | 2 | 2 | 2
\ 2016 | 3 | 3 | 4 | . . . | 2005 | 3 | 3 | 3
\ 2015 | 3 | 3 | 4 | . . . | 2004 | 3 | 3 | 3
\ 2014 | 2 | 2 | 3 | . . . | 2003 | 3 | 3 | 3
\ 2013 | 3 | 3 | 3 | . . . | 2002 | 1 | 2 | 2
\ 2012 | 4 | 5 | 5 | . . . | 2001 | 3 | 3 | 3
\ 2011 | 3 | 3 | 3 | . . . | 2000 | 1 | 1 | 1
\ 2010 | 1 | 1 | 2 | . . . | 1999 | 2 | 2 | 3
\ 2009 | 1 | 2 | 3 | . . . | 1998 | 0 | 1 | 1
\ 2008 | 2 | 2 | 3 | . . . | 1997 | 1 | 1 | 1

 

[red+black]

Any other 20+ instances? Any insight into the 1919 or 1993 games?

Most consecutive goals scored in a VFL/AFL game:

23-27 - R12, 1919 - South Melbourne 29.15-189 v St Kilda 2.6-18 (link) [South Melbourne scored 23-0 goals in the 2nd half]
23 - R17, 1899 - Geelong 23.24-162 v St Kilda 0.1-1 (link) [Geelong scored 23-0 goals for the game]
23 - R22, 2018 - Geelong 24.14-158 v Fremantle 3.7-25 (link) [Geelong scored 23-0 goals for the last 3 quarters]
19-27 - R08, 1993 - Brisbane 33.21-219 v Sydney 8.9-57 (link) [Brisbane scored 19-0 goals in the 1st half]

max 23 - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1987/051619870726.html
max 23 - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1996/010619960728.html
max 22 - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1931/121419310509.html
max 22 - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1976/031519760807.html

 

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Richmond lost by 113 points in R23, 2016.

Biggest loss in the year preceding 2-4 consecutive premierships:

89 - Richmond (1972)
83 - Essendon (1983)
82 - Brisbane (2000)
72 - Adelaide (1996)
62 - Hawthorn (2012)
58 - Essendon (1910)
57 - Collingwood (1926)
55 - Geelong (1950)
53 - Carlton (1980)
51 - Melbourne (1954)
48 - Collingwood (1934)
47 - Carlton (1913)
42 - Collingwood (1901)
41 - Melbourne (1958)
41 - Hawthorn (1987)
40 - Melbourne (1938)
39 - Essendon (1948)
36 - Carlton (1905)
33 - Essendon (1922)
32 - Fitzroy (1898)
27 - Fitzroy (1903)
26 - Richmond (1919)

 

[X_box_X]

Brisbane also lost by 74 points to Carlton in 2001, which should be added to your list.

53 loss to the Bulldogs that year too.

 

[red+black]

Yeah I saw those but I only listed the biggest loss each year

 

[Doss]

Footscray have won five games in a row against Carlton for the first time ever.

 

[red+black]

1 round to go. Leading goal kicker (1920-), lowest goal average per game:

2.86 - Jack Riewoldt (2018, so far)
2.95 - Jack Riewoldt (2012)
3.00 - Horrie Clover (1922), Tom Carroll (1961)
3.05 - Leigh Matthews (1975), Lance Franklin (2014)
3.09 - Jarryd Roughead (2013)
3.11 - Bill Young (1956), John Peck (1965)
3.14 - Lance Franklin (2017)

Lowest goal tallies for a Coleman Medal winner (1955-):
54 - Tom Carroll (1961)
56 - Bill Young (1956), John Peck (1965)
62 - Doug Wade (1962)
62.9 - Jack Riewoldt (2018, projected)
65 - Jack Riewoldt (2012)
67 - Ian Brewer (1958), Ron Evans (1960), Leigh Matthews (1975), Lance Franklin (2014)
68 - John Peck (1964), Jarryd Roughead (2013)
69 - Ron Evans (1959), John Peck (1963), Lance Franklin (2017)

 

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Brad Scott would have to be getting close to the grand final record, surely?

Brad Scott is looking to break records for mediocrity. Current record: 102 W, 98 L.

Most Games Coached (for One Club) Before Making a Grand Final:
225 (at best) - Brad Scott (North Melbourne)
184 - Mark Thompson (Geelong)
181 - Damien Hardwick (Richmond)
143 - Mark Williams (Port Adelaide)
131 - Frank Hughes (Melbourne)
113 - Leigh Matthews (Collingwood)

Most Games Coached Without Making a Grand Final:
258 - Bill Stephen (Fitzroy & Essendon)
247 - Terry Wallace (Western Bulldogs & Richmond)
201* - Brad Scott (North Melbourne)
177 - Neil Craig (Adelaide & Melbourne)
174 - Jack Hale (South Melbourne & Hawthorn)
158* - Nathan Buckley (Collingwood)

Most Games Coached (for One Club) Without Making a Grand Final:
212 - Bill Stephen (Fitzroy)
201* - Brad Scott (North Melbourne)
166 - Neil Craig (Adelaide)
162 - Rodney Eade (Western Bulldogs)
158* - Nathan Buckley (Collingwood)
149 - Dean Laidley (North Melbourne)
148 - Terry Wallace (Western Bulldogs)
146 - Jack Hale (Hawthorn)
137* - Ken Hinkley (Port Adelaide)
135 - Mick Malthouse (Western Bulldogs)
131 - Arthur Olliver (Western Bulldogs)
129 - Chris Connolly (Fremantle)
123 - Grant Thomas (St Kilda)
120 - Brett Ratten (Carlton)

 

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Single game 6.00%+ gains in the penultimate or last round of a season (1970-2018):

8.50% - Geelong (R22, 2018) v FR 158-25
8.13% - Richmond (R21, 1996) v FI 187-36
7.01% - St Kilda (R22, 2005) v BR 186-47
6.80% - Richmond (R22, 2013) v GWS 163-42
6.741% - Adelaide (R21, 2005) v CO 151-41
6.737% - St Kilda (R22, 2012) v GWS 163-35
6.61% - Port Adelaide (R23, 2017) v GC 135-20
6.59% - Melbourne (R21, 1993) v RI 175-54
6.53% - Essendon (R22, 1982) v FO 208-62
6.52% - Hawthorn (R21, 2010) v FR 155-39
6.15% - Richmond (R22, 2017) v FR 155-51
6.13% - Sydney (R23, 2016) v RI 164-51
6.07% - Geelong (R23, 2016) v ME 155-44

The following scorelines for GE v GC will add another entry to the list above:
124-25, 131-30, 137-35, ... 170-60

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Brad Scott is looking to break records for mediocrity. Current record: 102 W, 98 L.

Most Games Coached (for One Club) Before Making a Grand Final:
225 (at best) - Brad Scott (North Melbourne)
184 - Mark Thompson (Geelong)
181 - Damien Hardwick (Richmond)
143 - Mark Williams (Port Adelaide)
131 - Frank Hughes (Melbourne)
113 - Leigh Matthews (Collingwood)

Most Games Coached Without Making a Grand Final:
258 - Bill Stephen (Fitzroy & Essendon)
247 - Terry Wallace (Western Bulldogs & Richmond)
201* - Brad Scott (North Melbourne)
177 - Neil Craig (Adelaide & Melbourne)
174 - Jack Hale (South Melbourne & Hawthorn)
158* - Nathan Buckley (Collingwood)

Most Games Coached (for One Club) Without Making a Grand Final:
212 - Bill Stephen (Fitzroy)
201* - Brad Scott (North Melbourne)
166 - Neil Craig (Adelaide)
162 - Rodney Eade (Western Bulldogs)
158* - Nathan Buckley (Collingwood)
149 - Dean Laidley (North Melbourne)
148 - Terry Wallace (Western Bulldogs)
146 - Jack Hale (Hawthorn)
137* - Ken Hinkley (Port Adelaide)
135 - Mick Malthouse (Western Bulldogs)
131 - Arthur Olliver (Western Bulldogs)
129 - Chris Connolly (Fremantle)
123 - Grant Thomas (St Kilda)
120 - Brett Ratten (Carlton)

You’re showing a lot of Brad Scott love at the moment....

 

[red+black]

Not as much as his club. His time is up.

 

[the croucher]

Any other 20+ instances? Any insight into the 1919 or 1993 games?

Most consecutive goals scored in a VFL/AFL game:

23-27 - R12, 1919 - South Melbourne 29.15-189 v St Kilda 2.6-18 (link) [South Melbourne scored 23-0 goals in the 2nd half]
23 - R17, 1899 - Geelong 23.24-162 v St Kilda 0.1-1 (link) [Geelong scored 23-0 goals for the game]
23 - R22, 2018 - Geelong 24.14-158 v Fremantle 3.7-25 (link) [Geelong scored 23-0 goals for the last 3 quarters]
19-27 - R08, 1993 - Brisbane 33.21-219 v Sydney 8.9-57 (link) [Brisbane scored 19-0 goals in the 1st half]

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max 22 - https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1931/121419310509.html
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Ah, the 1931 match - Richmond v Nth Melb. According to this match report Richmond kicked 18 goals before North scored a goal:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242780638

 

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Less Than 1400 Points For (1970-2018):

1268* - Gold Coast (2018)
1270 - GWS (2012)
1292* - Carlton (2018)
1336 - Melbourne (2014)

 

[red+black]

Geelong defeated Fremantle by 133 at KP and face Gold Coast at KP this Saturday.

Geelong's highest winning margin across consecutive games at KP:
336 - 186 v ME, 150 v GC (2011)
248 - 119 v SK, 129 v BB (1989)
214 - 100 v SK, 114 v NM (1981)

Geelong's highest winning margin across consecutive games:
336 - 186 v ME, 150 v GC (2011)
287 - 164 v BB, 123 v AD (1992)
262 - 98 v FI, 164 v BB (1992)
248 - 119 v SK, 129 v BB (1989)
248 - 62 v RI, 186 v ME (2011)

 

[Catsace]

We know this much. The Brisbane Bears kicked the first 19 goals and may have kicked as many as the first 27 goals.
https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1993/021619930516.html

Amazingly, after this incredible win, Brisbane lost 11 of their next 12 games.

No help with these videos:

For a game that the players involved would now only be between 45 and 55 years old.....surely the scoreboard attendants, or someone at each club would have memory of that match in terms of when the Swans scored a goal first? I bet the player who kicked the first goal for the Swans that day will remember what the score against was!

 

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Progression of Most Handballs in a Game:

30 - R14, 2008 - Matt Priddis
33 - R04, 2009 - Gary Ablet Jr
34 - R01, 2018 - Tom Mitchell
35 - R22, 2018 - Matt Crouch

 

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For a game that the players involved would now only be between 45 and 55 years old.....surely the scoreboard attendants, or someone at each club would have memory of that match in terms of when the Swans scored a goal first? I bet the player who kicked the first goal for the Swans that day will remember what the score against was!

Dale Lewis kicked the 1st goal in the 6th minute of the 3rd quarter. Dean McRae kicked the 2nd goal just before 3/4 time. That's all I know so far.

Nathan Buckley and Michael Voss played in that game. Dale Lewis may recall if the Bears had 19, 20 or 21 goals before he kicked his.

 

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Most wins in Geelong:

90 - Reg Hickey (+2 draws)
88 - Sam Newman
86 - Jimmy Bartel (+2 draws)
83 - Ian Nankervis
81 - George Todd (+2 draws)
81 - Bill Goggin (+1 draw)
80 - Andrew Mackie
78 - Corey Enright (+2 draws)
74 - Darren Milburn (+1 draw)
74* - Joel Selwood
73 - Paul Couch (+1 draw)
72 - Russell Renfrey
71 - Joel Corey (+2 draws)
70 - Doug Wade (+1 draw)
69 - Matthew Scarlett (+2 draws)
68 - Peter Riccardi (+2 draws)
66 - Steve Johnson (+2 draws)
66* - Harry Taylor
65 - Barry Stoneham (+1 draw)
65* - Tom Hawkins

 

[North park]

Chris Scott has coached Geelong in 163 games since winning the 2011 premiership.

If he completes his new contract extension to 2022 without winning another premiership, he will set a new record for most games coached at one club in one stint after winning a premiership.

The three coaches currently ahead of Scott are:

- Dick Reynolds (coached Essendon in 191 games over 10 years after winning the 1950 premiership)
- Allan Jeans (coached St.Kilda in 217 games over 10 years after winning the 1966 premiership)
- Jock McHale (coached Collingwood in 250 games over 13 years after winning the 1936 premiership)

As Scott has a minimum of 89 games to coach until the end of 2022, he would exceed 250 games over 11 years since the 2011 premiership.