Stats questions

[X_box_X]

Wow, a losing record against only two teams.

Phenomenal.

 

[red+black]

Which 5 (or 10) players played the most games for Essendon between 1983-2001 yet didn't play in a premiership?

 

[Ron The Bear]

Which 5 (or 10) players played the most games for Essendon between 1983-2001 yet didn't play in a premiership?

118 Anthony Daniher
109 Michael Symons
105 Paul Hamilton
103 Greg Anderson
85 Che Cockatoo-Collins
81 Michael Prior
79 Peter Cransberg
77 Derek Kickett
76 Ben Doolan
76 Barry Young

 

[The Passenger]

which grand final teams, have had the most previous grand final experience? for instance if geelong win this weekend and run out with the same team that beat port adelaide, they would boast about 55 games grand final experience.

i would imagine hawthorn 89 or 91, and the melbourne teams towards the end of their 7 in a row in the 50's would be the highest.

likewise which finals teams, have had the most previous finals experience?

once again haws late 80's and early 90's would be high, and i would imagine eagles 99 after 10 in a row would have been fairly up there though we were bundled out in straight sets (or even just lost our first elimination final) a few times in a row from memory.

i'm thinking the current swans team would have to be quite high as they have played a lot of finals recently, including a few guys who would have all played 7 between 05 and 06... would be reduced by the amount of injuries they are currently experiencing.

 

[red+black]

It's incredible to think that if Geelong make the GF, Joel Selwood will be playing in his 20th final already.

Only 38 players have ever played 20 finals.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Who's got the record for most career goals in the 5 Heritage Rounds and who played in all 5?

 

[Ron The Bear]

which grand final teams...

Grand final teams with previous grand final experience:

GF|Year|Cb
\67|1951|Es
\66|1950|Es
\66|1989|Ha
\62|1930|Co
\62|1934|Ri
\62|1949|Es
\62|1960|Me
\59|1988|Ha
\58|2004|Br
\57|1991|Ha
\56|1948R|Es
\56|1959|Me
\55|1937|Co
\52|1977R|NM
\51|1939|Co
\50|1958|Me
\50|1987|Ha
\49|1909|Ca
\49|1929|Co
\48|1978|NM
\48|2011|Co
\46|1986|Ha
\45|1906|Fi
\45|1933|Ri
\45|2011|Ge

Finals teams with previous finals experience:

Fnls|Year|Rd|Club
\339|2004|GF|Br
\319|2004|PF|Br
\293|2003|GF|Br
\279|2011|GF|Ge
\275|2000|PF|NM
\272|2004|QF|Br
\267|2010|PF|Ge
\265|2003|PF|Br
\257|2011|PF|Ge
\255|2012|PF|Co
\254|2012|SF|Co
\250|2003|SF|Br
\250|2011|GF|Co
\245|2010|SF|Ge
\243|2013|SF|Ge
\241|1987|GF|Ha
\241|2010|QF|Ge
\241|2010|GF|St
\240|1988|GF|Ha
\240|2003|QF|Br
\240|2012|QF|Co
\239|1989|SF|Ha
\239|1989|GF|Ha
\237|1987|PF|Ha
\236|2000|SF|NM
\235|2011|PF|Co
\232|1999|GF|NM
\232|2010|GF|St
\231|2002|GF|Br
\229|1991|GF|Ha
\228|1986|GF|Ha
\228|2001|SF|Ca
\226|2009|GF|Ge
\225|2004|GF|PA
\223|1998|GF|NM
\220|1988|SF|Ha
\220|2011|EF|St

 

[The Passenger]

awesome as always RTB

 

[Ron The Bear]

Who's got the record for most career goals in the 5 Heritage Rounds and who played in all 5?

Goals|Player|Gms
\21|Lloyd, Matthew|3
\20|Robertson, Russell|5
\19|Gehrig, Fraser|5
\17|Johnson, Brad|5
\16|Hall, Barry|5
\13|Richardson, Matthew|5
\12|O'Keefe, Ryan|5
\12|O'Loughlin, Michael|5
\12|Ricciuto, Mark|5
\11|Fevola, Brendan|4
\11|Pavlich, Matthew|5
\11|Tredrea, Warren|4
\10|Lucas, Scott|4

93 players

Ablett junior, Gary
Baker, Steven
Ball, Luke
Barry, Leo
Bartel, Jimmy
Bell, Peter
Blake, Jason
Bolton, Craig
Bolton, Jude
Boyd, Matthew
Braun, Michael
Brown, Leigh
Burgoyne, Shaun
Burns, Scott
Carr, Josh
Chick, Daniel
Copeland, Robert
Corey, Joel
Cornes, Kane
Croad, Trent
Dal Santo, Nick
Edwards, Tyson
Farmer, Jeff
Fisher, Brad
Fosdike, Nic
Gehrig, Fraser
Gilbee, Lindsay
Goodes, Adam
Goodwin, Simon
Grant, Shannon
Hall, Barry
Hargrave, Ryan
Harvey, Brent
Harvey, Robert
Hille, David
Hodge, Luke
Hunter, Adam
Johncock, Graham
Johnson, Brad
Johnson, Jason
Johnson, Kane
Johnson, Mark
Johnson, Steve
Jolly, Darren
Jones, Corey
Jones, Rowan
Judd, Chris
Kennelly, Tadhg
Kerr, Daniel
Kirk, Brett
Koutoufides, Anthony
Lade, Brendon
Ling, Cameron
Lonie, Nathan
McGregor, Ken
McLeod, Andrew
McMahon, Jordan
McVeigh, Mark
Michael, Mal
Milburn, Darren
Montagna, Leigh
Notting, Tim
O'Bree, Shane
O'Keefe, Ryan
O'Loughlin, Michael
Ottens, Brad
Parker, Shane
Pavlich, Matthew
Petrie, Drew
Peverill, Damien
Power, Luke
Rawlings, Brady
Ricciuto, Mark
Richardson, Matthew
Riewoldt, Nick
Robbins, Matthew
Robertson, Russell
Sandilands, Aaron
Scarlett, Matthew
Schammer, Byron
Shirley, Robert
Simmonds, Troy
Simpson, Adam
Sinclair, Jess
Tivendale, Greg
Voss, Brett
Waite, Jarrad
Watt, Shannon
Wells, Daniel
Welsh, Andrew
West, Scott
White, Jeff
Wirrpanda, David

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Once again Ron you deliver the goods.

Cheers big ears.

 

[red+black]

Which years have had 4 or more 90k+ crowds?

 

[Ron The Bear]

Which years have had 4 or more 90k+ crowds?

1966-71 (4), 1972 (5), 2010 (4)

 

[red+black]

Of course I asked because this year looks like it will be added to that list

 

[Sellyme]

Of course, there's more games per year nowadays.

I'd be interested to see percentage distributions of crowds each year, grouped into 10k chunks. I imagine that recently both high and low crowds have occurred more frequently, with mid-range ones lessened.

 

[red+black]

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/summary.html

 

[red+black]

What is the GF W/L record for PF* winners that won their PF* by less than 10 points. Please list year, 1 or 2 PFs, PF winner, PF margin, and GF result.

* If not too difficult, please include matches from the penultimate finals week, even if it wasn't called a PF. eg. Melbourne defeated Essendon by 2 points in the 'preliminary' game to the 1900 grand final (where they defeated the minor premiers Fitzroy).

1900 | 1 PF | Melbourne | 2 points | won GF
\ 1901 | 2 PFs | Essendon | 1 point | won GF
\ 1903 | 2 PFs | Collingwood | 4 points | won GF
\ ...
\ 2012 | 2 PFs | Hawthorn | 5 points | lost GF
\ 2013 | 2 PFs | Hawthorn | 5 points | ???

 

[SJ]

Has a club ever won more than 149 matches in seven seasons?

 

[red+black]

Has a club ever won more than 149 matches in seven seasons?

I'll give you a clue. 150/7 = 21.4 wins per season.

 

[SJ]

I'll give you a clue. 150/7 = 21.4 wins per season.

So you're saying Geelong 2007-2013 is pretty special then.

 

[red+black]

By my calculations, Geelong won 139 games over the last 7 seasons, not 149.

EDIT: Hawthorn won 135.5 games during the years 1983-1989.

 

[UpForGrabs]

Roughead and Franklin are the latest pair of Coleman Medallists to play on the same team at the same time. Trying to think of others:

Fevola and Brown
Matthews and Dunstall
Matthews and Hudson
Matthews and Ablett
Gehrig and Cummings
Taylor and Roach
Blight and Wade

But more than a few of those were teammates before both had won their Coleman Medals.

So - are Franklin/Roughy and Fevola/Brown the only two pairs of teammates to each have won a Coleman Medal and play in the same side at the same time?

 

[The Passenger]

where does Steve Johnson's 1.5625 votes per game sit in the highest per game for a single season? Maybe with a cut off of 10 games? You could probably even do it with no cut off, as it's pretty unusual for guys who only played a few games to poll at a vote a game or higher...

 

[Ron The Bear]

where does Steve Johnson's 1.5625 votes per game sit in the highest per game for a single season? Maybe with a cut off of 10 games? You could probably even do it with no cut off, as it's pretty unusual for guys who only played a few games to poll at a vote a game or higher...

Min. 10 games:

VPM|Player|Club|Year|Votes|Games|Rank
\1.80|Reynolds, Dick|Es|1937|27|15|1st
\1.78|Fothergill, Des|Co|1940|32|18|eq 1st
\1.78|Matthews, J. Herbie|Sy|1940|32|18|eq 1st
\1.71|Wright, Roy|Ri|1954|29|17|1st
\1.64|Bunton, Haydn|Fi|1932|23|14|1st
\1.62|Swan, Dane|Co|2011|34|21|1st
\1.60|Gleeson, Brian|St|1957|24|15|1st
\1.59|Collis, Gordon|Ca|1964|27|17|1st
\1.58|Judd, Chris|Ca|2010|30|19|1st
\1.58|Ablett junior, Gary|Ge|2009|30|19|1st
\1.56|Johnson, Steve|Ge|2013|25|16|4th
\1.56|Lord, Alistair|Ge|1962|28|18|1st
\1.53|Matthews, J. Herbie|Sy|1937|23|15|2nd
\1.53|Hutchison, Bill|Es|1953|26|17|1st
\1.50|Mitchell, Sam|Ha|2011|30|20|2nd
\1.50|Williams, Greg|Ca|1994|30|20|1st
\1.50|Torney, Hugh|Es|1940|24|16|3rd
\1.50*|Knights, Peter|Ha|1976|45|15|2nd

* Knights' votes halved due to two-umpire voting format

No restriction:

VPM|Player|Club|Year|Votes|Games|Rank
\2.33|Taylor, Dick J.|Me|1935|7|3|eq 25th
\2.00|Hudson, Peter|Ha|1973|2|1|eq 96th
\1.80|Reynolds, Dick|Es|1937|27|15|1st
\1.78|Fothergill, Des|Co|1940|32|18|eq 1st
\1.78|Matthews, J. Herbie|Sy|1940|32|18|eq 1st
\1.71|Wright, Roy|Ri|1954|29|17|1st
\1.67|McManus, Shaun|Fr|1997|5|3|eq 66th
\1.64|Bunton, Haydn|Fi|1932|23|14|1st
\1.62|Swan, Dane|Co|2011|34|21|1st
\1.60|Gleeson, Brian|St|1957|24|15|1st
\1.59|Collis, Gordon|Ca|1964|27|17|1st
\1.58|Judd, Chris|Ca|2010|30|19|1st
\1.58|Ablett junior, Gary|Ge|2009|30|19|1st
\1.56|Johnson, Steve|Ge|2013|25|16|4th
\1.56|Fyfe, Nathan|Fr|2012|14|9|eq 15th
\1.56|Lord, Alistair|Ge|1962|28|18|1st
\1.53|Matthews, J. Herbie|Sy|1937|23|15|2nd
\1.53|Hutchison, Bill|Es|1953|26|17|1st
\1.50|Mitchell, Sam|Ha|2011|30|20|2nd
\1.50|Williams, Greg|Ca|1994|30|20|1st
\1.50|Torney, Hugh|Es|1940|24|16|3rd
\1.50|Harris, Darren|NM|1989|3|2|eq 95th
\1.50|O'Brien, Paul J.|Me|1983|3|2|eq 75th
\1.50|Crosswell, Brent|Ca|1971|3|2|eq 68th
\1.50|Hayden, Ian|Ri|1964|3|2|eq 50th
\1.50|O'Mahony, John|Ha|1957|3|2|eq 54th
\1.50|Carr, Reg|Fi|1954|3|2|eq 58th
\1.50|Boniface, Alf|WB|1940|3|2|eq 54th
\1.50*|Knights, Peter|Ha|1976|45|15|2nd

 

[The Passenger]

good stuff rtb, didn't think i'd seen higher in my life time but didn't pick up that swan missed a game when i was looking. didn't even bother looking at judd and ablett, just assumed they must would have played 20+

 

[Ron The Bear]

Roughead and Franklin are the latest pair of Coleman Medallists to play on the same team at the same time. Trying to think of others:

Fevola and Brown
Matthews and Dunstall
Matthews and Hudson
Matthews and Ablett
Gehrig and Cummings
Taylor and Roach
Blight and Wade

But more than a few of those were teammates before both had won their Coleman Medals.

So - are Franklin/Roughy and Fevola/Brown the only two pairs of teammates to each have won a Coleman Medal and play in the same side at the same time?

Someone PM'd me with this question a little while ago. Technically the two pairs you've named is the correct answer, since the Coleman wasn't instituted until 1981 and was later made retrospective to 1955.

Club|Player 1|Player 2|Seasons|Gms
\Co|Teddy Lockwood|Archie Smith|1902|4
\Es|Fred Hiskins|Albert Thurgood|1902-1906|20
\Me|Vin Coutie|Jack Leith|1905-11|26
\Me|Harry Brereton|Jack Leith|1912|1
\Me|Harry Brereton|Roy Park|1915|13
\Ge|Lloyd Hagger|Cliff Rankin|1926-27|38
\Ri|Dick Harris|Jack Titus|1941-43|47
\Ha|Peter Hudson|Leigh Matthews|1977|24
\Br|Jonathan Brown|Brendan Fevola|2010|14
\Ha|Lance Franklin|Jarryd Roughead|2014?|-

Notes:

Lockwood won his award at Geelong. Lockwood/Smith's 4 games in 1902 were their only 4 together
Hiskins/Thurgood 4 games 1900 (Thurgood won), 10 games 1901 (Hiskins won), 20 games 1902-06, 34 total
Leith won in 1897. Coutie/Leith 20 games 1901-1903, 26 games 1905-11, 46 total (Coutie won in 1904, when Leith didn't play)
Brereton/Leith 4 games 1911 (Brereton won), 1 game 1912, 5 total
Brereton/Park 13 games all in 1915 (Brereton won 1911 & 12, Park 1913 at University)
Hagger/Rankin 38 games 1919-21 (Rankin won), 57 games 1922-25 (Hagger won), 38 games 1926-27, 133 total
Harris/Titus 73 games 1934-37 (Harris won), 53 games 1938-40 (Titus won), 47 games 1941-43, 173 total
Hudson first won in 1968. Hudson/Matthews 47 games 1969-74, (Matthews won 1976), 24 games 1977, 71 total
Fevola first won in 2006 at Carlton, Brown in 2007. 14 games 2010, as mentioned
Franklin/Roughead 71 games 2005-08 (Franklin won), 84 games 2009-13 (Roughead won), 155 total