Summer 2016 Transfer Rumour Thread

[Zidane98]

According to Paul Joyce Gotze wants LFC move. Bayern want £20m for him.

I guess at that price Gotze's wage demands will be pretty high.

 

[RossFC]

According to Paul Joyce Gotze wants LFC move. Bayern want £20m for him.

I guess at that price Gltze's wage demands will be pretty high.

Apparently he's on 110k which is fine I reckon.

 

[Gosha]

Seems like Liverpool are a red hot chance to sign Gotze. Would be a massive signing for them.

 

[Greendogg5]

Could be some fantastic players coming in to the Premier League this summer.

Xhaka to Arsenal, Gundogan to City, Gotze to Liverpool all looking possible, Pogba attracting a lot of interest from Chelsea, Mourinho to renew Fellaini's contract with United for another 10 years.

Exciting times.

There is a lot of legitimate noise coming from dortmund about götze returning in the summer

 

[jod23]

Think she'll be happy living in Liverpool?

She will follow the gravy train im sure.

 

[jod23]

The question is; which of those sides are likely to join Liverpool in competing for his services, and how will Klopp go in his first major test of selling the club and his project to a high profile target?

Well that's why we have an advantage im guessing. Klopp doesnt need to sell the project. Gotze has worked under Klopp and knows all about it and what to expect and how Klopp will want to achieve it. Liverpool are a bigger club than Dortmund but are in a tougher league. I dont think selling the club will be too difficult.

I dont believe any of the click bait though. We wont be signing Gotze in the summer.

 

[ADL9798]

Tony Barrett (The Times):
"Mario Götze is ready to sever his ties with Bayern Munich at the end of this season, having set his heart on a summer move to Liverpool where he would be reunited with Jurgen Klopp, who managed him at Borussia Dortmund.

In what would be a significant statement of intent by Klopp as he looks to re-establish Liverpool among European football's elite, the Merseyside club are hopeful of signing the German World Cup winner. Götze is expected to cost around £20 million as he is due to enter the final year of his contract in June.

Götze has been open in his attempts to attract Liverpool's interest and privately the attacking midfielder has gone still further, indicating that working under Klopp once more would be his ideal scenario following a difficult spell at Bayern."

There is a lot of legitimate noise coming from dortmund about götze returning in the summer

I read that too. I'd have thought Dortmund and Liverpool will be the main suitors for him come the summer. The wages won't be a problem for either club, I guess it comes down to whether a) Bayern will willingly sell such a good player to their only legitimate rivals in the Bundesliga given the presence of an alternative and b) whether he's comfortable going back to his old club given the circumstances he left in - it's a tricky scenario.

 

[Cooldude]

If both Liverpool and Dortmund come in then Bayern would much prefer to sell him to us, that is if Gotze's willing to come and by all sounds of it he does

 

[moomba]

How many AM types would Liverpool ideally play? Probably their strongest area already I would have thought.

 

[RossFC]

How many AM types would Liverpool ideally play? Probably their strongest area already I would have thought.

Coutinho LW, Gotze CAM, Firmino either ST or RW depending on if Sturridge is fit. Lallana becomes a backup.

 

[Zidane98]

Coutinho LW, Gotze CAM, Firmino either ST or RW depending on if Sturridge is fit. Lallana becomes a backup.

Lallana is on low wages so ideal as a backup. Having said that he's been excellent second half of this season.

 

[ADL9798]

How many AM types would Liverpool ideally play? Probably their strongest area already I would have thought.

He would probably take Lallana's place in the starting XI with everyone fit, and like Firmino can play as a false 9 in the event that Sturridge is injured. There's a few different systems we could use to get our best talent on the park if we did sign him. Bottom line is that if a player like Gotze is available and wants to move to your club, you make it happen and worry about the rest later don't you? I'm sure City weren't too worried that they already had Silva, Nasri, Navas and Milner when Sterling and De Bruyne became available!

 

[Magma]

yeah but we're guaranteed to have most of them injured for the season.

 

[Cooldude]

We don't really have that many geniune no.10s at a closer look, Coutinho's now a left side forward, Firmino's better as a striker and doesn't actually play too well at no.10 so there's only really Lallana but he plays mostly wide for us

Gotze plays wide loads anyway, particularly under Klopp, so I see no problem. Can't pass up a player of his quality

 

[Zidane98]

There's always the possibility that Ancelotti may come on board and tell Gotze that he wants him going forward.

 

[moomba]

He would probably take Lallana's place in the starting XI with everyone fit, and like Firmino can play as a false 9 in the event that Sturridge is injured. There's a few different systems we could use to get our best talent on the park if we did sign him. Bottom line is that if a player like Gotze is available and wants to move to your club, you make it happen and worry about the rest later don't you? I'm sure City weren't too worried that they already had Silva, Nasri, Navas and Milner when Sterling and De Bruyne became available!

No, we werent, although Milner was already gone, we tried to offload Nasri and I think both Kdb and sterling were bought with a view to when Silva and Navas were no longer with us.

Nor have I suggested Liverpool shouldnt buy Gotze if they have a chance.

Just wondering how he would fit in, and who would be sacrificed. For me Sturridge, Firminho, Coutinho and Gotze in the same side is too lightweight unless you have monster DM/CM's. But thats just me, as you'll no doubt bring City into it, I've consistently said the same about our lineup.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Liverpool need to focus on defensive players more than attacking ones. They are going to end up with an unbalanced squad at this rate.

 

[jod23]

No, we werent, although Milner was already gone, we tried to offload Nasri and I think both Kdb and sterling were bought with a view to when Silva and Navas were no longer with us.

Nor have I suggested Liverpool shouldnt buy Gotze if they have a chance.

Just wondering how he would fit in, and who would be sacrificed. For me Sturridge, Firminho, Coutinho and Gotze in the same side is too lightweight unless you have monster DM/CM's. But thats just me, as you'll no doubt bring City into it, I've consistently said the same about our lineup.

How does Gotze for Lallana make us any more or less lightweight? Who exactly is a an AM who isnt lightweight? Most AM's are smaller, more nimble, quicker. You dont get big hulking No.10's.

I dont think that's a problem at all.

 

[jod23]

Liverpool need to focus on defensive players more than attacking ones. They are going to end up with an unbalanced squad at this rate.

At what rate exactly? We havent even bought Gotze yet and the two players we actually have brought in and will arrive in the summer are a box to box CM and a CB. So not sure what you're getting at.

We have been linked to more defenders, mids and of course attacking players. Nothing is unbalanced.

 

[moomba]

How does Gotze for Lallana make us any more or less lightweight? Who exactly is a an AM who isnt lightweight? Most AM's are smaller, more nimble, quicker. You dont get big hulking No.10's.

I dont think that's a problem at all.

It doesnt make you less lightweight.

If your happy with 4 attacking players it isnt a problem.

 

[jod23]

It doesnt make you less lightweight.

If your happy with 4 attacking players it isnt a problem.

We usually roll with four attacking players. Three in behind Sturridge. Can and Hendo behind those four. Could do with a destroyer perhaps next to Can maybe.

In any case when a player as good as Gotze is available, you sign him and worry about it later.

Again though, I dont think we will get him. Cos, being Liverpool.

 

[ADL9798]

No, we werent, although Milner was already gone, we tried to offload Nasri and I think both Kdb and sterling were bought with a view to when Silva and Navas were no longer with us.

Nor have I suggested Liverpool shouldnt buy Gotze if they have a chance.

Ah. I thought you were suggesting we should sign players in another position instead because we were already fairly well stocked for attacking midfielders.

Just wondering how he would fit in, and who would be sacrificed. For me Sturridge, Firminho, Coutinho and Gotze in the same side is too lightweight unless you have monster DM/CM's. But thats just me, as you'll no doubt bring City into it, I've consistently said the same about our lineup.

...what's wrong with talking about City? It was a relevant example wasn't it?

I agree that in this league you can't have an entire side of mosquitoes and Klopp may also want to add a bit more steel to join Henderson, Can, Grujic (all 6 foot, fairly robust players) and Lucas in the centre.

However, looking back to the way Klopp set up that 2011-2013 Dortmund side for clues as to what sort of players he might look to add to this Liverpool side going forward: he typically went with 1 of Kehl or Bender (both were around 6 foot but hardly what I'd call monster DMs - more high energy shuttlers who were adept at hassling their opponent into releasing the ball) to partner Gundogan, the rest of the midfield/attack was on paper fairly lightweight but I can't remember ever seeing them pushed around or knocked off the ball.

When out of possession it was more about having a quick, mobile and aggressive unit of players all moving as one to effectively close down, dispossess and counter their opponents than having a couple of big brutes bashing players off the ball. When we'll start to look flimsy and lightweight as a side will be when we have 1 or 2 players in that unit not performing their role in the press and/or not working hard enough in both directions, and that's not necessarily correlated with the physical stature of the players. In fact, some of the laziest players in the game are powerful, 6 foot plus 'monster' midfielders and forwards.

 

[moomba]

Ah. I thought you were suggesting we should sign players in another position instead because we were already fairly well stocked for attacking midfielders.

Nah, you can buy him and theres no rule against buying players in other positions. Or indeed selling one of your existing players.

Was more interested where he fits in to your best XI and who misses.

 

[chef]

Would be a cracking signing for Pool.

Would also give them great depth which is needed with the amount of games teams play these days.

 

[ADL9798]

Liverpool need to focus on defensive players more than attacking ones. They are going to end up with an unbalanced squad at this rate.

We've already signed Joel Matip (23yo CB, Schalke) and Marko Grujic (19yo Box to Box midfielder, Red Star Belgrade), we're being linked with about half a dozen goalkeepers and it sounds as though we'll look at a defensive midfielder too. Not overly concerned about the balance of the squad going forward - I'm sure Klopp will have a good idea of what he needs now. He'll be given the resources to bring in a couple of quality players in the summer, and they won't all be in the final third.