Swan V Buckley

[BluesKreuz]

I saw this discusion in another board but wanted to make it as a poll and in discusion over Wayne Carey's view, which he believes Swan is better than Buckley.

Swan has improved immensely and has now asserterd himself amongst the top players in the league although still how he is even compared to Buckley just yet is bemusing to myself. Who knows he may turn out to be better than Buckley but at the moment he most certainly isn't. Buckley had that elite skill and obvious leadership qualities which compared to swan, he is streaks ahead at.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...kley-wayne-carey/story-e6frf9jf-1225903654100

 

[robertg22]

Buckley's the best Pies player I've seen and Swan is not yet in the top 5, but he's very close. Bucks by a long margin for a while yet.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Buckley by a mile.

 

[DO IT TO IT]

buckley

both are overrated though

 

[gibbanator]

Buckley easily as he can kick and also had a hard tag every week, Swan can not kick and therefore not tagged.

 

[robertg22]

Buckley easily as he can kick and also had a hard tag every week, Swan can not kick and therefore not tagged.

It's quite ironic that when he got played against Carlton, he got tagged by a guy that truly can't kick.
Of course it's very difficult to put a 'hard' tag on him due to his aerobic capacity, in fact it's almost impossible.
I think Wayne Carey could be a slightly better judge of football talent than you, squibbinator.

 

[gibbanator]

It's quite ironic that when he got played against Carlton, he got tagged by a guy that truly can't kick.
Of course it's very difficult to put a 'hard' tag on him due to his aerobic capacity, in fact it's almost impossible.
I think Wayne Carey could be a slightly better judge of football talent than you, squibbinator.

15.20 in front of the sticks indicates he is a poor kick as does his KE%.

Look at Ablett to see how effective a magnet can be with a good kick.

I rate Ablett higher than Buckley. Not even close with Swan.

 

[robertg22]

Judd kicked 12.19 last year..
Swan smashed Ablett all over the ground the other night too.

 

[smiddaz123]

Buckley is untouched by Swan, let alone another current day midfielder.

 

[DO IT TO IT]

Buckley is untouched by Swan, let alone another current day midfielder.

ablett and judd>buckley

 

[gibbanator]

Judd kicked 12.19 last year..
Swan smashed Ablett all over the ground the other night too.

One swallow does not make a summer.

Swan normally goes missing in the big games, 2009 finals series is testament to this. Needs to show some consistency in big games before he can compared to greats.

 

[robertg22]

lol
38 touches and 2 goals in the semi vs West Coast in 2007, 25 touches with Ling following him around the following week (definitely beat Ling)
27 touches and 2 goals in the EF vs Adelaide in 2008
24 & 28 touches in finals last year against the Saints & Crows.. quiet the following week. He had internal bleeding for the finals series, but let's not take that into account
That's just finals... you said 'big games' - we play in big games every single week and he's clearly our best, most consistent player. Swan might even be the most consistent player in the AFL.

 

[smiddaz123]

ablett and judd>buckley

Buckley had better skills than both, especially Judd. He was also a better leader than both, although I guess you could debate Judd there, but I'd have Buckley ahead in that aspect.

Buckley was more versatile, and could play at either end more effectively than either Ablett or Judd. Buckley was good enough to play a key position.

 

[Big Nasty]

Judd kicked 12.19 last year..
Swan smashed Ablett all over the ground the other night too.

I would wait and see how Swan would go against Ablett in a final before getting too carried away.

 

[Sin City]

Buckley's one of the best players I've seen. Terrible article.

 

[robertg22]

I would wait and see how Swan would go against Ablett in a final before getting too carried away.

Was just responding to the Carlton troll who said that Swan isn't even close to Ablett. Ablett has done more career to date, obviously.

 

[Dundalis]

ablett and judd>buckley

Buckley took a very average team to two Grand Finals, and almost beat one of the greatest sides of all time in one of them, winning a Norm Smith. Leadership wise IMO Buckley was actually underrated.

Judd, with a similarly average side, though IMO possibly more talent skill wise, can barely even make the Finals. Ablett has won two with one of the greatest sides of all time.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Just no....

Carey is just a bitter fool who can't stomach the fact that Buckley shunned North both as a player and a coach. The role Buckley turned down is the one Carey would have killed to be respected enough to fill. Swan is a star but Nathan is a legend of the game.

 

[Hodgepodge]

I thought Carey was off the drugs now.

Buckleys' record stands up against that of any other midfielder of the last 25 years, let alone Dane Swan's.

 

[poulsman]

ablett and judd>buckley

nope