Certified Legendary Thread Sympathy for *essendon III - with 2023 finals on the line, GWS win by +100 / Nov4 = 7000 days since last final win / RIP D2D and T_S

[DesertRoo]

I can think of two people who have made - and are still making - a bigger contribution to indigenous football than racist Nanna Sheedy.

Their names are Phillip and Jim Krakouer.

Mate, according to bombres fans the savages were tamed when Sheeds arrived with a footy, he taught them about this great game called ‘Aussie rules’ and changed the relations between indigenous folk and the poor western farmers forever.
Anyone who says otherwise is a dirty rotten racist.

 

[The Warlord]

Geez lucky this was posted in the Australian with a readership of 100k or so with the most important being Robert Thomson.

How long before the hit jobs on Phil and Jim appear?

 

[DesertRoo]

How long before the hit jobs on Phil and Jim appear?

I wonder if the murdochs put two and two together, that infatuation between the innocent * football club and trust in the Herald Sun go hand in hand.

 

[The Warlord]

Mate, according to bombres fans the savages were tamed when Sheeds arrived with a footy, he taught them about this great game called ‘Aussie rules’ and changed the relations between indigenous folk and the poor western farmers forever.
Anyone who says otherwise is a dirty rotten racist.

Yes, history starts when Sheeds drafted Michael Long lolololololol.

 

[Boozeroo]

From Wikipedia-
"Derek Peardon (born 24 September 1950) is a former Australian rules football player who played in the VFL between 1968 and 1971 for the Richmond Football Club.
During his time at Richmond one of his teammates was Kevin Sheedy. Sheedy credits Peardon with initiating his interest in indigenous Australia.

Peardon was the second indigenous player to play at Essendon, the first being Norm McDonald in 1949.

So Sheedy has an interest in indigenous culture, but the first Indigenous player on his Essendon list is Michael Long in 1989? That is 8 seasons into his coaching career....

I've never understood the fawning over Sheedy's' relationship with the indigenous culture, and I feel like it became a marketing tool over time rather than a passion project.

 

[The Warlord]

From Wikipedia-
"Derek Peardon (born 24 September 1950) is a former Australian rules football player who played in the VFL between 1968 and 1971 for the Richmond Football Club.
During his time at Richmond one of his teammates was Kevin Sheedy. Sheedy credits Peardon with initiating his interest in indigenous Australia.

Peardon was the second indigenous player to play at Essendon, the first being Norm McDonald in 1949.

So Sheedy has an interest in indigenous culture, but the first Indigenous player on his Essendon list is Michael Long in 1989? That is 8 seasons into his coaching career....

I've never understood the fawning over Sheedy's' relationship with the indigenous culture, and I feel like it became a marketing tool over time rather than a passion project.

Sheedy retconning the myth

 

[The Warlord]

The whole kit and caboodle drops tomorrow no?

Meaning the entire filing should be public, if not tomorrow very soon

LuvtheKangas ... I'm no big city law talkin' dude, is that how it works?

Be hilarious if the Margolits strategy was a few selective details dropped to generate a response/denials that are then blown out of the water by the filing in its entirety.

 

[Epictetus]

Sheedy is one of the biggest myths in footy. Everything he has done to that club in the last quarter of a century should be celebrated by every North Melbourne person. He's still ruining the joint!

It'll be shame for all of us when they finally throw his drunken arse out of that soulless shithole near the airport.

 

[Cyber_punk]

Sheedy is one of the biggest myths in footy. Everything he has done to that club in the last quarter of a century should be celebrated by every North Melbourne person. He's still ruining the joint!

It'll be shame for all of us when they finally throw his drunken arse out of that soulless shithole near the airport.

The media will still fellate him, but yes, as long as he is there they will remain crippled.

Also I take it Footy Classified didn't touch on the issue at all last night? Strange, Caroline Wilson likes to paint herself as a warrior for social justice. It's almost as if that's not true.

#BIGCLUBPRIVELIGE

 

[Harris 10]

From Wikipedia-
"Derek Peardon (born 24 September 1950) is a former Australian rules football player who played in the VFL between 1968 and 1971 for the Richmond Football Club.
During his time at Richmond one of his teammates was Kevin Sheedy. Sheedy credits Peardon with initiating his interest in indigenous Australia.

Peardon was the second indigenous player to play at Essendon, the first being Norm McDonald in 1949.

So Sheedy has an interest in indigenous culture, but the first Indigenous player on his Essendon list is Michael Long in 1989? That is 8 seasons into his coaching career....

I've never understood the fawning over Sheedy's' relationship with the indigenous culture, and I feel like it became a marketing tool over time rather than a passion project.

I know Derek and his life story is one of the most interesting ones you'll read about.

 

[DesertRoo]

The media will still fellate him, but yes, as long as he is there they will remain crippled.

Also I take it Footy Classified didn't touch on the issue at all last night? Strange, Caroline Wilson likes to paint herself as a warrior for social justice. It's almost as if that's not true.

It’s the whole afl, once you remove the facade, the empire has no clothes, it’s a bunch of good ole boys with intergenerational money slapping other good ole boys on the back.

 

[The Warlord]

Sheedy is one of the biggest myths in footy. Everything he has done to that club in the last quarter of a century should be celebrated by every North Melbourne person. He's still ruining the joint!

It'll be shame for all of us when they finally throw his drunken arse out of that soulless shithole near the airport.

They look like they're going to go fully #standbysheeds which is hilarious if stomach churning

 

[DesertRoo]

They look like they're going to go fully #standbysheeds which is hilarious if stomach churning

A quick check of the bummers board and hardly any of them are buying it.

Even their commentators are ostracising the audience..

How the mighty have fallen.

 

[tricknologist]

lmao at Watson's take that Sheedy has done more for indigenous athletes than anyone in Australian sport. He didn't even temper his take by specifying that he was comparing Sheedy to other white Australians. Nope, he just went full white saviour complex and outright claimed Sheedy has done more than anyone, even other indigenous people.

 

[Cyber_punk]

They look like they're going to go fully #standbysheeds which is hilarious if stomach churning

I mean most of them wanted Hird back to coach and still stand by him to this day. There is no bottom to that barrel.

You really have to be a certain type of sociopath to follow that lot.

#whateverittakes

 

[The Warlord]

A quick check of the bummers board and hardly any of them are buying it.

Even their commentators are ostracising the audience..

How the mighty have fallen.

There's plenty at the club who would love him off the board once ands for all.

 

[The Warlord]

Its interesting how the generation of indigenous players either side of Long/Sheedy have called out racism in the game recently.

There was the idea - heavily pushed by the old soak Sheedy, and with Long who made a post footy brand out of it - that they had "solved" racism against indigenous people in footy.

They did have some success - they certainly ended onfield sledging of players as acceptable and by extension crowd abuse, albeit that's not 100 per cent fixed.

But the key issue out of shockingly handed, horrifically reported Hawthorn stuff was that it hadn't been fixed and modern AFL clubs weren't/aren't culturally safe places.

I expect Clarkson will acknowledge as much after the HRC mediation, that simply preventing direct racist abuse isn't enough.

And now Phil and Jim are saying nah hang on, what happened to us isn't just erased because you've done the basics, the was real.

What Sheedy and Long did was implement the absolute basic in terms of stopping direct abuse.

But they didn't seek to heal the past, or think about the future.

Sheedy just saw an opportunity to make Essendon money and increase its prestige afyed that.

And now he's been called out he's reverting to type as the racist he is.

 

[DesertRoo]

Its interesting how the generation of indigenous players either side of Long/Sheedy have called out racism in the game recently.

There was the idea - heavily pushed by the old soak Sheedy, and with Long who made a post footy brand out of it - that they had "solved" racism against indigenous people in footy.

They did have some success - they certainly ended onfield sledging of players as acceptable and by extension crowd abuse, albeit that's not 100 per cent fixed.

But the key issue out of shockingly handed, horrifically reported Hawthorn stuff was that it hadn't been fixed and modern AFL clubs weren't/aren't culturally safe places.

I expect Clarkson will acknowledge as much after the HRC mediation, that simply preventing direct racist abuse isn't enough.

And now Phil and Jim are saying nah hang on, what happened to us isn't just erased because you've done the basics, the was real.

What Sheedy and Long did was implement the absolute basic in terms of stopping direct abuse.

But they didn't seek to heal the past, or think about the future.

Sheedy just saw an opportunity to make Essendon money and increase its prestige afyed that.

And now he's been called out he's reverting to type as the racist he is.

Have you taken notice of the ironing of the opening round yet?
The bumbers play the dawks both with a nice big cloud hanging over them.

 

[LB2Snake]

Slobbo stinking up for his mate, like all these accusations should remain neutral. Not this drunken turd






AFL: CEO Andrew Dillon won't commit to Opening Round concept despite initial success.
When Kevin Sheedy was told that he had been accused of racial abuse, it felt like a stake through his heart and through everything he had accomplished for Indigenous people for the past 50 years.

Stunned doesn’t go close to describing his reaction.

He was angry and most of all was saddened. He spoke briefly on Sunday and asked not to be quoted. But as his grandchildren splashed around in the pool at home in front of him, you could tell.

His voice lacked the enthusiasm and playfulness that almost always accompanies a Sheedy conversation. This hurt him. Perhaps more than losing a Grand Final.

Sheedy has created more front pages for football than probably anyone who has served the game, and this time he was in the crosshairs.

The headline might as well have been that Sheedy is a racist.

All this from a comment, allegedly made at a sportsmen’s night in 2017, that Sheedy encouraged his players to abuse Jim and Phil Krakouer in the 1980s to gain a tactical advantage.

It’s flimsy.

But mud sticks because the internet never forgets.

And that’s jarring because his good outweighs his bad 100,000-1.


Michael Long and Kevin Sheedy. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Andrew Henshaw
Undoubtedly, the brothers were dealt with appallingly through that time. The world was a naive and nasty place then. The words attributed to a bunch of Essendon players in the class action were commonplace, and not only on the footy field.

Thankfully, as education became paramount, vilification became real and punishable in football.

The AFL was the first sporting organisation in the world to introduce an anti-vilification code. That was in 1995. The AFL couldn’t right the wrongs of the past, but it sure as hell wanted to shape the future.

Sheedy was part of that.

As coach of Essendon, he took the club around Australia. From Port Lincoln to Geraldton. From Mildura to the Tiwi Islands.

He’s been to more remote communities in Western Australia and Northern Territory than every Prime Minister combined.

He engaged Indigenous Australians. He offered hope. If Michael Long from the Tiwis could make it to Melbourne, so could they.

He helped create traineeships and school scholarships and, with then Essendon official Simon Matthews, pioneered the Dreamtime blockbuster between the Bombers and Richmond at the MCG.

His contribution to and celebration of Indigenous culture in football is unmatched.

And now he’s accused of racial abuse.


Sheedy has taken the game around Australia. Picture: Alex Coppel.
The class action against the AFL might well lead to pay outs for the Krakouer brothers and the Supreme Court might not be the place to determine that. Mediation has to be the first play.

It will be complex because the 1980s were a free-for-all for racism compared to today’s standards.

Can the AFL – the semi-professional VFL in those days – be held responsible for the community, government, business and school attitudes back then?

Maybe Sheedy said those things. He says he didn’t.

And people close to Phil Krakouer say he wouldn’t make it up.

Still, it must be traumatic for him and certainly it has devastated Sheedy.

It came a week after he agreed to another venture in his Iconic football book series. There’s been the best-selling list of the greatest coaches and players, the icons of footy, and the greatest sportsmen of Australia.

What a ********** is Robbo. Gezuz mate. Transparent much. ffS.

 

[The Warlord]

Have you taken notice of the ironing of the opening round yet?
The bumbers play the dawks both with a nice big cloud hanging over them.

Oh I have noted that.

Never thought I'd say this but I'm keen to hear Jeff Kennett's take on it all

 

[Engimal v3]

Doing a big sloppy s**t at the moment and it made me think of the mighty Dons

 

[The Warlord]

I cbf linking or copy pastaing it, but what a pile of s**t by Matthew Stokes.

 

[Sillygit]

Why Bombers’ polarising eight-year plan after ‘20 years of pain’ is complex amid ‘massive disconnect’

‘Cop out’: How Dons’ eight-yr plan after ‘20 years of pain’ created ‘massive disconnect’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Sillygit]

just a nice quick 8 years turn around, no worries

 

[the big lebowski]

just a nice quick 8 years turn around, no worries

I read it as * saying

“Once we get rid of Heppell, Merrett, parish, stringer, wright, Ridley, Langford, Draper, McKay, Gresham, hind, guelfi we will be set to challenge for the 8”