The 2014 Attendance Thread

[gopies1981]

Hawthorn v Geelong will draw 85,000
Essendon v North will draw 70,000
Sydney v Fremantle 40,000
Port v Richmond 53,000

The breakdown will be

Hawthorn will draw 50,000 and Geelong 35,000

Essendon 50,000 and north 20,000

Sydney 38,000 and freo 2,000

Port Adelaide 43,000 and Richmond 10,000

 

[workhorse]

Hawthorn v Geelong will draw 85,000
Essendon v North will draw 70,000
Sydney v Fremantle 40,000
Port v Richmond 53,000

The breakdown will be

Hawthorn will draw 50,000 and Geelong 35,000

Essendon 50,000 and north 20,000

Sydney 38,000 and freo 2,000

Port Adelaide 43,000 and Richmond 10,000

I'd say there'd be quite a lot of neutrals at both MCG games thanks to AFL and MCC Members

 

[Tassieboy]

I don't think the Hawks v Geelong game is tracking for 85k. Probably 75 - 80k is more realistic. I think it looks like low 70s for Essendon v North.

 

[walhawk]

I don't think the Hawks v Geelong game is tracking for 85k. Probably 75 - 80k is more realistic. I think it looks like low 70s for Essendon v North.

10K more tickets sold for Ess v North - which is the series ticket allocation.
More MCC/AFL members will go to a QF so I expect similar crowds in mid 70s.
ANZ crowd will be soft - under 40K. Would do better @ SCG.

 

[bombersfan4000]

10K more tickets sold for Ess v North - which is the series ticket allocation.
More MCC/AFL members will go to a QF so I expect similar crowds in mid 70s.
ANZ crowd will be soft - under 40K. Would do better @ SCG.

the SCG capacity is now 48k and they still have to play at ANZ

 

[walhawk]

the SCG capacity is now 48k and they still have to play at ANZ

Understand ANZ until 2016, Do you disagree they would do better @ SCG?
I am surprised that the AFL wants to keep the Swans in 'Western Sydney'.
Surely they would want GWS to be building up support in that area.

 

[Rob]

Understand ANZ until 2016, Do you disagree they would do better @ SCG?
I am surprised that the AFL wants to keep the Swans in 'Western Sydney'.
Surely they would want GWS to be building up support in that area.

The issue is that they're contracted to play 3 games a year + all finals there. They didn't sit there on Saturday night and make a choice. If the final is in Sydney, it must be at ANZ unless there's a scheduling conflict.

The alternative during the season is to play GWS home games there instead. That's probably something the AFL have in the back of their minds in a few years if they're getting half decent crowds. But at the moment, no.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Apparently SA radio saying 10k of Vic Tiger fans are making the trek over, with more from our SA supporter base

should be a ripper crowd at the game for both sides

 

[finders]

Im starting to also think the Swans game will be lucky to get 40;000 unless its fine weather and there are a lot of walkups.There are still over 40,000 tickets for sale.

 

[Hawkk]

Hawthorn v Geelong will draw 85,000
Essendon v North will draw 70,000
Sydney v Fremantle 40,000
Port v Richmond 53,000

The breakdown will be

Hawthorn will draw 50,000 and Geelong 35,000

Essendon 50,000 and north 20,000

Sydney 38,000 and freo 2,000

Port Adelaide 43,000 and Richmond 10,000

It's a Friday Night match so Geelong fans will show up in half the numbers as they would for Saturday / Sunday Afternoon fixtures.

With respect to crowd split (if you can assess that sort of thing) Id imagine a 50% Haw, 20% Geel and 30% neutrals would be the expected attendance across a crowd in the 70000's

Had the QF been a Saturday Afternoon fixture the crowd would have been enormous (85000 plus)

I'd expect a similar split between Essendon and North at the EF.

 

[Hawkk]

Apparently SA radio saying 10k of Vic Tiger fans are making the trek over, with more from our SA supporter base

should be a ripper crowd at the game for both sides

Got to hand it to Richmond, I can't think of any other support base that would attend an EF in those sort of numbers

 

[Rouel_14]

6000 Richmond Members bought tickets in the members sale,
and if transportation companies were smart and put on more planes, trains, busses i think 10000 members would of got tickets. I have talked to so many members and we don't care about the cost (unless the obscene $2000 QANTAS want for return) we just want to be able to get there. So many in the same boat!
still 6000 members
5000 Supporters form the General public allocation
5000 naturals from a love of Football
16000 won't silence the Portress but we will go along way!

 

[Rouel_14]

RICHMOND members have already snapped up all 7000 of the club's ticket allotment for Sunday's elimination final against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.
Tickets for the four games in week of finals went on sale at 9am on Monday morning (AEST) and the Port-Richmond clash is nearly sold-out.
Only limited public restricted viewing tickets remained available for sale at 5pm AEST.
The Tigers have announced they will screen the elimination final at its Punt Road training base for members and supporters unable to attend the match.
Gates open at 1pm and entry is via a gold coin donation, with a portion of the proceeds to be donated to charity.
Meanwhile, only 18,000 tickets remained for sale to Saturday night's North Melbourne-Essendon clash at the MCG.
About 27,000 tickets were still unsold to the latest chapter in the Hawthorn-Geelong rivalry at the MCG on Friday night.
While 48,000 tickets remain for the other qualifying final between the Sydney Swans and Fremantle at ANZ Stadium on Saturday.

The MCG figures that have been published, are these the figures left on sale to the General public or is this for the entire stadium MCC and AFL reserves included?

 

[Hawkk]

Not including MCC / AFL allocations (so about 64000) When I looked yesterday the PAX for Essendon v North and Hawthorn was 68000 (inc Series) and 61000 (which includes AFL members)

If precedence is any indicator both are looking at 75000 (Essendon v North 80000 if the AFL Series ticket holders rock up in big numbers)

 

[Fletched]

MCG now predicting 80000 for both matches

 

[Kwality]

AFL HOME ATTENDANCES

Adelaide Crows 48,046
Collingwood Magpies 48,007
Essendon Bombers 45,067
Port Adelaide Power 44,521
Richmond Tigers 43,195
Carlton Blues 39,461
Hawthorn Hawks 36,896
Fremantle Dockers 35,658
West Coast Eagles 34,198
Geelong Cats 33,913
Sydney Swans 32,595
Melbourne Demons 25,638
North Melbourne Kangaroos 24,424
St Kilda Saints 23,296
Western Bulldogs 22,266
Brisbane Lions 19,736
Gold Coast Suns 16,092
GWS Giants 9,226
ALL1986,404,56932,346

AFL HOME AND AWAY ATTENDANCES

Collingwood Magpies 47,647
Essendon Bombers 44,448
Hawthorn Hawks 41,234
Carlton Blues 38,544
Richmond Tigers 38,171
Adelaide Crows 37,356
Geelong Cats 35,725
Port Adelaide Power 35,240
Sydney Swans 33,365
West Coast Eagles 31,448
Fremantle Dockers 31,122
Melbourne Demons 29,816
North Melbourne Kangaroos 28,060
St Kilda Saints 27,564
Western Bulldogs 24,191
Brisbane Lions 21,379
Gold Coast Suns 20,841
GWS Giants 16,082
ALL1986,404,56932,346

Makes published membership numbers look shallow ... any transparency, hello hello !!

 

[Kwality]

RICHMOND members have already snapped up all 7000 of the club's ticket allotment for Sunday's elimination final against Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.
Tickets for the four games in week of finals went on sale at 9am on Monday morning (AEST) and the Port-Richmond clash is nearly sold-out.
Only limited public restricted viewing tickets remained available for sale at 5pm AEST.
The Tigers have announced they will screen the elimination final at its Punt Road training base for members and supporters unable to attend the match.
Gates open at 1pm and entry is via a gold coin donation, with a portion of the proceeds to be donated to charity.
Meanwhile, only 18,000 tickets remained for sale to Saturday night's North Melbourne-Essendon clash at the MCG.
About 27,000 tickets were still unsold to the latest chapter in the Hawthorn-Geelong rivalry at the MCG on Friday night.
While 48,000 tickets remain for the other qualifying final between the Sydney Swans and Fremantle at ANZ Stadium on Saturday.

The MCG figures that have been published, are these the figures left on sale to the General public or is this for the entire stadium MCC and AFL reserves included?

Tiger members taking 100% of the club allotmenti.....

 

[Hawkk]

Makes published membership numbers look shallow ... any transparency, hello hello !!

Im not sure how it does.

Unless the AFL provided any figures on how many unique supporters attended matches its very difficult to draw any sort of conclusion based on these numbers

 

[gaelictiogar]

Nothing against the other teams involved but it the Bombers, Tigers and Hawks can get to the PFs it will both cause a massive surge in interest across Victora and help in some way to put a good gloss on what has been a difficult year at he box office for the game in Victoria.

Makes published membership numbers look shallow ... any transparency, hello hello !!

I don't see that that is true.

The Tigers spent he entire season out of the top 8 until right

Makes published membership numbers look shallow ... any transparency, hello hello !!

Not so at all.

Does the fact that the Weagles have often played to several thousand empty seats in a small home stadium render dubious the idea of their figures on membership and waiting list as well?

Fact is that the Bombers are restricted by the Dome and the Tigers trended far outside of the top 8 all year. There are reasons. In a season with any run on good form early on both clubs would comfortably near 50K as a home match average.

Port and Crows have done superbly but undeniably there is novelty factor there and many thousands of those fans were conspicuous by their absence not a million years ago.

The implicit suggestion that The Vic clubs are lying about numbers just holds no water.

 

[Kwality]

Nothing against the other teams involved but it the Bombers, Tigers and Hawks can get to the PFs it will both cause a massive surge in interest across Victora and help in some way to put a good gloss on what has been a difficult year at he box office for the game in Victoria.


I don't see that that is true.

The Tigers spent he entire season out of the top 8 until right


Not so at all.

Does the fact that the Weagles have often played to several thousand empty seats in a small home stadium render dubious the idea of their figures on membership and waiting list as well?

Fact is that the Bombers are restricted by the Dome and the Tigers trended far outside of the top 8 all year. There are reasons. In a season with any run on good form early on both clubs would comfortably near 50K as a home match average.

Port and Crows have done superbly but undeniably there is novelty factor there and many thousands of those fans were conspicuous by their absence not a million years ago.

The implicit suggestion that The Vic clubs are lying about numbers just holds no water.

You read me well. Yes, I do believe the member numbers are pumped up by some clubs in Melbourne.

Has the Magpies sold out the MCG? No I'd suggest. Are they capable based on membership claims? That'd be a yes but even Eddie has not called for it - draw my conclusion. You do understand the clubs have a max attendance at the G of maybe 70k, Etihad say 45k.

Clearly you don't understand WA is not Victoria, reference the GST for a clear example, not footy but black & white. The Eagles sell the stadium out on seasons tickets, empty seats ( I'm a critic too) don't equal any lost money for the club, not just memberships its seating too. No walk ups, cheap seats nil.

That 3 game memberships, 2 game memberships pump up membership numbers & are trumpeted by a cheerleading media - its nonsense & well meaning footy fans are buying it. Then spin doctors leak an optimistic view of the club financials & the cheerleading media print it verbatim.

I'm not a cheerleader fan of our game, not all cheerleaders though !

 

[Hawkk]

Nothing against the other teams involved but it the Bombers, Tigers and Hawks can get to the PFs it will both cause a massive surge in interest across Victora and help in some way to put a good gloss on what has been a difficult year at he box office for the game in Victoria.


I don't see that that is true.

The Tigers spent he entire season out of the top 8 until right


Not so at all.

Does the fact that the Weagles have often played to several thousand empty seats in a small home stadium render dubious the idea of their figures on membership and waiting list as well?

Fact is that the Bombers are restricted by the Dome and the Tigers trended far outside of the top 8 all year. There are reasons. In a season with any run on good form early on both clubs would comfortably near 50K as a home match average.

Port and Crows have done superbly but undeniably there is novelty factor there and many thousands of those fans were conspicuous by their absence not a million years ago.

The implicit suggestion that The Vic clubs are lying about numbers just holds no water.

Could get that long awaiting Richmond v Hawthorn final if the Tiges did the impossible and won in SA and WA/NSW in successive weeks

 

[dave_27]

I don't see how the MCC could predict 80k for either final. I go back to the Ess v Carl final in 2011, every single public and afl members ticket sold out, the MCC was also pretty full despite raining all morning and the attendance over 90k.

Count back from that 90k figure the amount of public tickets still available + the afl members tickets still available + the MCC likely won't be any more busier than what turned up for that 90k final and you get a figure somewhere in the 60's or low 70's for the games this weekend.

 

[Hawkk]

I posted this in the Hawthorn thread last year...

A couple of roughly comparable games....

2011 Qualifying Final v Geelong: 14,500 tickets available from Wednesday (73,400)
2012 Qualifying Final v Collingwood: 9,000 tickets available from Wednesday (85,639)
2012 Preliminary Final v Adelaide: 15,000 tickets available from Wednesday (69,146) - Series
2013 Qualifying Final v Sydney: 22,500 tickets available from Wednesday (59,836) - Series

We should know a lot more about what sort of crowd this game is likely to draw on the back of ticket sales today and tomorrow. At the moment I'd suggest that the ticket sales are marginally ahead of the Collingwood 2012 game (85k to 90k)

FWIW, the PAX as of 1 hour ago was a touch under 70,000.

At time of Wednesday there were 10000 tickets available for last years PF - and that game drew 85,569.

Based on those rough numbers we are probably looking at 70,000 to 75,000 (perhaps more if the majority of Series Ticket holders rock up to the North v Essendon fixture)

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Understand ANZ until 2016, Do you disagree they would do better @ SCG?
I am surprised that the AFL wants to keep the Swans in 'Western Sydney'.
Surely they would want GWS to be building up support in that area.

48,000 will never be reached because 10K of seating is trust only seating (see the MCC) difference being many trust people despise AFL, not just don't like it by storm out a live tv show for mention the letters AFL style despise.
Let alone support Sydney.

38K is the largest capacity we can get without trust members (over 2K of trust members to the port clash was an amazing get)
Yes technically we can get 42K but it relies on trust members releasing seat's.

if the next rights agreement see's the full allocation of 46K released (like it was supposed to be) for blockbusters then maybe well get a final locked in with the SCG, personally i can't see it happening because the only thing the AFL gives a shit about is money, they couldn't care less if it disadvantages us if they have the potential to draw 75K to stadium that charges less than stadium that can only draw 46K they will go with ANZ. Finals are all about the AFL afterall.

But the fact is even if we got finals at the SCG the swans will always play some home games at ANZ because it makes the club more money, by playing both stadiums against each other. Commit to the SCG and the anti AFL crew will push to go in dry.

Those clowns would rather an empty stadium then give the swans a deal.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

On aw they were discussing how the Dons/Kangas game is drawing more sales to date than the hawks/cats, and they didn't get how it could happen.

My speculation just from speaking to some cat fans in previous years is:

1) dons and Kangas fans are motivated to go. Both could be done for the next week (neither side is a Monty to win), so fans have to think like there is no next week.

2) the cats fans I know have started boycotting the qualifier because finals tickets for the family cost so much when you keep appearing in finals year on year (I know, the pain of making finals!! ). I suspect these guys ain't alone, and a number of hawks/cat fans may be holding their cash for the coming weeks.