Mega Thread The 2017 'Buckley's Chances' Thread

[TradeDraft]

We are 2-6.

Nice to Know You Bucks but you are Gone

 

[GreekLunatic]

Bucks should be remembered as the great player he was his coaching record shouldn't diminish what he done on the field

 

[Aucklander]

Pay a pretty blatant push in the back by Cameron leading up to the last goal and this thread may gets a weeks reprieve. Then of course there's that idiotic sliding in on the legs by Blair which gives GWS the ball too.

 

[biggiemediums]

Pay a pretty blatant push in the back by Cameron leading up to the last goal and this thread may gets a weeks reprieve. Then of course there's that idiotic sliding in on the legs by Blair which gives GWS the ball too.

It shouldn't. Win or lose we were horrible. We played with double the rotations. Any other club beats that GWS by 4+ goals.

 

[TradeDraft]

It shouldn't. Win or lose we were horrible. We played with double the rotations. Any other club beats that GWS by 4+ goals.

Shows we are a Bottom 4 Side

 

[nahnah]

Did he have a press conference or was he tapped on the shoulder after the siren?

 

[biggiemediums]

Shows we are a Bottom 4 Side

Absolutely. Our only decent win in Geelong are getting belted by Essendon who beat us. Sydney are deplorable yet we scraped by, by a point.

Bottom 4.

 

[Adz]

Did he have a press conference or was he tapped on the shoulder after the siren?

"We did a lot of hard work across the four quarters, and in particular in that last quarter, to be able to put ourselves in that position," Buckley said.

"We had chances and we should have iced it in the last five minutes, but we weren’t able to. Then there’s just little things, little blues that we made, that gave the opposition the opportunity to steal it basically in the end.

"That’s the way it goes. It was a flip of a coin in the last two or three minutes, whether we were going to be able to hold on, whether we would have the composure to possess the ball and shift it out of our back half and chew the clock up. But we just weren’t able to get a clear enough opportunity to do so.

"In the end, it’s not (GWS being) lucky - they forced it inside 50 four or five times in that last three minutes and eventually they scored."

WATCH: The last two minutes

Collingwood won the first term six goals to two and lost the second term by the same margin to hold a one-point advantage at half-time, 54-53. The rest of the match was tight and fluctuating and Collingwood seemed on track as the minutes counted down, only to be overrun with 30 seconds remaining.

"The game itself, we executed most of our plans," Buckley said.

"In any win you never get it perfect and in any loss you never get it all wrong. It’s somewhere in between. As it stands, GWS got a little bit more right than we did for the best part. That’s why they were able to get the result.

"The criticism can come. But I’m pretty the Collingwood supporters, when they see that sort of effort from their team, they’d be pretty proud."

 

[The Dawes]

Not Buckley's fault the players can't kill a game when you have control of it in the dying minutes but the win/loss ratio says it all.
Hope he goes out with dignity and I'm sure so does Eddie as it will allow him to save some face

 

[nahnah]

"We did a lot of hard work across the four quarters, and in particular in that last quarter, to be able to put ourselves in that position," Buckley said.

"We had chances and we should have iced it in the last five minutes, but we weren’t able to. Then there’s just little things, little blues that we made, that gave the opposition the opportunity to steal it basically in the end.

"That’s the way it goes. It was a flip of a coin in the last two or three minutes, whether we were going to be able to hold on, whether we would have the composure to possess the ball and shift it out of our back half and chew the clock up. But we just weren’t able to get a clear enough opportunity to do so.

"In the end, it’s not (GWS being) lucky - they forced it inside 50 four or five times in that last three minutes and eventually they scored."

WATCH: The last two minutes

Collingwood won the first term six goals to two and lost the second term by the same margin to hold a one-point advantage at half-time, 54-53. The rest of the match was tight and fluctuating and Collingwood seemed on track as the minutes counted down, only to be overrun with 30 seconds remaining.

"The game itself, we executed most of our plans," Buckley said.

"In any win you never get it perfect and in any loss you never get it all wrong. It’s somewhere in between. As it stands, GWS got a little bit more right than we did for the best part. That’s why they were able to get the result.

"The criticism can come. But I’m pretty the Collingwood supporters, when they see that sort of effort from their team, they’d be pretty proud."

Well I'm not proud, I'm the most disgusted with the club that I've ever been

 

[TradeDraft]

Absolutely. Our only decent win in Geelong are getting belted by Essendon who beat us. Sydney are deplorable yet we scraped by, by a point.

Bottom 4.

and we are not looking like a Team on the Way Up Either

 

[GreekLunatic]

Stuff being proud since when are we proud of losing

 

[HFF]

Stuff being proud since when are we proud of losing

Since he is trying to save his job.

 

[Adz]

Proud by proud we stick together.

 

[anshell]

We're not as bad as people think,and the teams above us aren't as good as we think.The competition is closer than it's ever been.You only have to see the results from the last couple of weeks to realize that.If we get a couple of key position players and a couple of rebounding defenders at the end of the year,we could rebound up the ladder very quickly,with a new coach of course.

 

[Run n Spread]

We're not as bad as people think,and the teams above us aren't as good as we think.The competition is closer than it's ever been.You only have to see the results from the last couple of weeks to realize that.If we get a couple of key position players and a couple of rebounding defenders at the end of the year,we could rebound up the ladder very quickly,with a new coach of course.

True very even. Apart from Brisbane. Hence why it is so bad getting behind the 8 ball early.

Not Buckley's fault the players can't kill a game when you have control of it in the dying minutes but the win/loss ratio says it all.
Hope he goes out with dignity and I'm sure so does Eddie as it will allow him to save some face

They did kill it till Blair's slide.

Thou credit where it's due that crumb was f ing unbelievable. Not many others who could pull that off.

Also thought that HTB at the end could've been play on.

 

[THATSGOLD]

We are meant to be proud. Buckley.

 

[jamieb1983]

Well i think we can all agree that finals are off the table for this year.

Now if buckley is to coach out the season, as i think he will and the club will not move on him til then, then i think he needs to do the right thing for the club.

Play the kids. We need to see what they are capable of. By all reports shaz has earned a call up. Just play him.

Dont bring them all in at once but they need some exposure to the elite level soon. As much as it hurts saying this we need to look to 2018 and beyond.

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Proud of an 'honourable defeat'.

Genuine loser talk, be bitter about the defeat - then get better.

 

[September Action]

We're not as bad as people think,and the teams above us aren't as good as we think.The competition is closer than it's ever been.You only have to see the results from the last couple of weeks to realize that.If we get a couple of key position players and a couple of rebounding defenders at the end of the year,we could rebound up the ladder very quickly,with a new coach of course.

Like, say, Nathan Brown, Jack Frost, Marley Williams and someone else?? Why are our players going backwards? So little improvement...

 

[biggiemediums]

We're not as bad as people think,and the teams above us aren't as good as we think.The competition is closer than it's ever been.You only have to see the results from the last couple of weeks to realize that.If we get a couple of key position players and a couple of rebounding defenders at the end of the year,we could rebound up the ladder very quickly,with a new coach of course.

I agree. The team isn't that bad. But the team performance is. And that's squarely on Buckley.

Like you say, a couple KPPs and a logical gameplan from a decent coaching staff and we make finals with relative ease.

Even our "terrible" kickers aren't even bad. When I played I knew some guys who were amazing kicks up until we had a shitty coach and gameplan and decision making gets in the way of disposal.

 

[gutsroy]

Am a long way away from it over here: Is the feeling that Buckley would walk of his own volition before the season is out?

 

[biggiemediums]

Am a long way away from it over here: Is the feeling that Buckley would walk of his own volition before the season is out?

I don't think so. I actually think he's a bit delusional. I really think he's that 36 year old boxer with a record of 30-32 that still thinks he can win a title.

 

[swoop42]

You can't fault the effort of the performance but given the injury situation GWS had and the fact they went through the motions in the first quarter it's highly disappointing to lose.

Still I remain largely ambivalent to the result when once I would have been gutted.

This side just does my head in and I couldn't help but ponder in the hours following whether a different coach would have got us a 4 goal victory under those circumstances or Buckley did a great job getting that performance out of them.

My gut tells me it's most likely the former and we would be getting more out of our talent with another coach but still it's sad we have shot ourselves in the foot so many times this season.

One thing I do wonder is why Buckley just doesn't seem to appreciate enough that waiting, looking for and hitting up targets inside 50 with short passes is a better plan A than just bombing it in quick and long and hoping weight of inside 50 numbers sees you win the day.

While the pressure of GWS was substandard in that first quarter I'll admit our method of going forward was far better than what we've seen for many games under the coach over the years.

To me this is probably the biggest weakness of Buckley's methodology of how he wants our side to play and a significant contributing factor to not only why we lose games of football but why ultimately it'll cost him his job.

 

[F_therest]

I agree. The team isn't that bad. But the team performance is. And that's squarely on Buckley.

Like you say, a couple KPPs and a logical gameplan from a decent coaching staff and we make finals with relative ease.

Even our "terrible" kickers aren't even bad. When I played I knew some guys who were amazing kicks up until we had a shitty coach and gameplan and decision making gets in the way of disposal.

Yeah people focus too much on thinking 'Player A can't kick'.
Most of the time it's more the game plan that's the issue.

If players up the ground led into space better and all the players basically already know where they're going to kick the ball before they even take possession due to the game plan, it makes a players kicking look better. Think Hawthorn in their premiership years where their ball movement worked like clockwork...players would mark the ball and immediately turn and kick already knowing where a teammate was going to be up the field.

If you're unorganised and making things up as you go along and have to spear a pinpoint pass to a player then obviously some will miss and your kicking will look bad.