Society/Culture The Abortion Thread

[GreyWind]

This thread and the same sex marriage thread shouldn't even be debated about any more.

But in saying that there needs to be limitations on when an abortion can be performed, health reasons to the mother and foetus notwithstanding.

 

[Procrastinator35]

This thread and the same sex marriage thread shouldn't even be debated about any more.

But in saying that there needs to be limitations on when an abortion can be performed, health reasons to the mother and foetus notwithstanding.

Except one's legal & one aint....Go figure.

Agree with you on all points though. (for the hard of hearing & decipher Nazi's).

 

[GreyWind]

Except one's legal & one aint....Go figure.

Agree with you on all points though. (for the hard of hearing & decipher Nazi's).

Depends which state you're in though in regards to legality.

Can add euthanasia to that list as well.

 

[Scotland]

This thread and the same sex marriage thread shouldn't even be debated about any more.

But in saying that there needs to be limitations on when an abortion can be performed, health reasons to the mother and foetus notwithstanding.

It's usually the same people who are the most invested in each issue.

They have a book.

 

[ep2018]

Not a fan but 1) the idea of a child being brought into the world when it isn't wanted horrifies me and 2) I'm a guy so my opinion isn't worth jack.

 

[cartwright]

Everyone knows you're a button-mashing bell-end, too quick to jump to hasty conclusions, by putting words in people's mouths, in a desperate attempt at point-scoring, one-up-man-ship, to try to look educated & intelligent as a result.

That is the sum of your every-post..

You bring absolutely nothing of your own to the table....We all know you're a phony, so give up this transparent BS act of yours....It's fooling no-one.

Explain the alternatives, then.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Explain the alternatives, then.

Sure: Carry to term or abort, if carried to term; keep or adopt....Pretty simple, I'd of thought.

 

[cartwright]

Sure: Carry to term or abort, if carried to term; keep or adopt....Pretty simple, I'd of thought.

Right. I was just giving you the chance to retract the abhorrent suggestion of a 13 year old girl going through with a pregnancy.

A child should not have a child. Its pretty simple.

 

[armpit]

You don't want to see abortion as contraception, but I agree, with the idea that the very last thing the world needs is another unwanted child.

 

[armpit]

Actually what about voluntary vasectomies. Much cleaner and before the fact.

 

[Procrastinator35]

Right. I was just giving you the chance to retract the abhorrent suggestion of a 13 year old girl going through with a pregnancy.

A child should not have a child. Its pretty simple.

Always depends on the context....What if she was already past the safe stage?.....There's a risk she may never be able to have kids again; Or worse, die.

My suggestion for the adoption alternative, was prefaced upon the horrific nature & history surrounding the conception....Adoption, in this instance, wipes that slate clean, so to speak.... Assuming that was either the family choice or the only viable, safe alternative available.

It is you who is presuming that abortion is the only 'morally proper' alternative here.... Reality dictates otherwise....Lets not allow emotions to dictate our choices nor govern our reason.

Never presume the context of a post, when it's open-ended.....If that poster took the time to read the feminist thread, then they'd know my stance on abortion.....Anyone who consistently advocates individual rights, could never champion a lack of individual choice.

Finally. Any poster stereotyping another poster who is spiritual, by lumping a bunch of random beliefs upon them & brandishing them a 'kook'; Asks for what's coming to them.

 

[cartwright]

Always depends on the context....What if she was already past the safe stage?.....There's a risk she may never be able to have kids again; Or worse, die.

My suggestion for the adoption alternative, was prefaced upon the horrific nature & history surrounding the conception....Adoption, in this instance, wipes that slate clean, so to speak.... Assuming that was either the family choice or the only viable, safe alternative available.

It is you who is presuming that abortion is the only 'morally proper' alternative here.... Reality dictates otherwise....Lets not allow emotions to dictate our choices nor govern our reason.

Never presume the context of a post, when it's open-ended.....If that poster took the time to read the feminist thread, then they'd know my stance on abortion.....Anyone who consistently advocates individual rights, could never champion a lack of individual choice.

Finally. Any poster stereotyping another poster who is spiritual, by lumping a bunch of random beliefs upon them & brandishing them a 'kook'; Asks for what's coming to them.

The context was a 13 year old r*ped.

Every other person reading this thread understood the context.

Adoption wipes the slate clean does it? Just like that, eh?

 

[Sydney Bloods]

The context was a 13 year old r*ped.

Every other person reading this thread understood the context.

Adoption wipes the slate clean does it? Just like that, eh?

even most rapists would take issue with that.

 

[Procrastinator35]

The context was a 13 year old r*ped.

Every other person reading this thread understood the context.

Adoption wipes the slate clean does it? Just like that, eh?

You seem to be another poster who plies in the trade of emotive rhetoric.

The example given was a hypothetical.

The adoptive parents (assuming the scenario took that course) would hopefully know nothing of the circumstances surrounding the context of the child''s conception.....That being so, the child could then have a chance at growing up without any stigma attached.

Most who read my suggested alternative (without a vested agenda), would have understood that.

Enough with the hysterical, hyperbolic nonsense already.

 

[cartwright]

You seem to be another poster who plies in the trade of emotive rhetoric.

The example given was a hypothetical.

The adoptive parents (assuming the scenario took that course) would hopefully know nothing of the circumstances surrounding the context of the child''s conception.....That being so, the child could then have a chance at growing up without any stigma attached.

Most who read my suggested alternative (without a vested agenda), would have understood that.

Enough with the hysterical, hyperbolic nonsense already.

Its really not my issue that you cannot communicate clearly.
All these after thoughts and clarifications, and adding your own details, in your own mind, to the hypothetical comment of "13 year old girl r*ped"

Maybe you need to reassess how you communicate your assertions.

 

[Procrastinator35]

even most rapists would take issue with that.

Care to

Its really not my issue that you cannot communicate clearly.
All these after thoughts and clarifications, and adding your own details, in your own mind, to the hypothetical comment of "13 year old girl r*ped"

Maybe you need to reassess how you communicate your assertions.

Well, it could well be that....Or, it could be posters 'reading things' into my comments.

There is no ambiguity on this issue in my mind....If you so desire to believe the worst in a poster, then that is your prerogative. Just don't expect my acquiescence.

 

[skilts]

Care to


Well, it could well be that....Or, it could be posters 'reading things' into my comments.

If anyone can make any sense of what you post, they are miracle workers. WTF does, "Care to" mean? You madam, are a congenital, gibbering idiot.

 

[Procrastinator35]

If anyone can make any sense of what you post, they are miracle workers. WTF does, "Care to" mean? You madam, are a congenital, gibbering idiot.

Yet another band-wagoner.....Another inane 'gotcha' rant by Skilts

If posters want to indulge in subterfuge, then they'll get the same treatment in return.

It's really sweet of you all to stick up for your mate.......Even when they were dead wrong....As usual.

And as for this ridiculous circle-jerk, personality politics of a social metaphysics....Take it back to primary school you numb-skulls.

 

[cartwright]

Yet another band-wagoner.....Another inane 'gotcha' rant by Skilts

If posters want to indulge in subterfuge, then they'll get the same treatment in return.

It's really sweet of you all to stick up for your mate.......Even when they were dead wrong....As usual.

And as for this ridiculous circle-jerk, personality politics of a social metaphysics....Take it back to primary school you numb-skulls.

you didn't answer the question.

WTF does "care to" mean?

 

[Procrastinator35]

you didn't answer the question.

WTF does "care to" mean?

Oh, I answered it alright....2nd sentence....Not so good on the inter-textual stuff eh?

Regardless....This thread is about abortion. Lets get it Back on-track.

 

[CM86]

It's amazing how many people are wrong, and Promasturbater is right.

I wonder if it's just possible, that it isn't everyone else with the problem...

 

[Procrastinator35]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...s/news-story/4a5b5c9b39946dabd6a44ef6e43e8a5c

 

[skilts]

As a manufacturer of coat hangers, I am totally supportive of any move to make abortion once again illegal.

 

[Procrastinator35]

The article was about the merits or otherwise, of making abortion illegal beyond the 24 week (5 and a half months) mark (The current Victorian legal limit; after which the permission of 2 doctors must be attained)....The female pro-life Democratic labor MP, Rachel Carling-Jenkins; tried to get her bill passed in the Vic govt, but it was defeated 27 votes to 11.

 

[cartwright]

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The article was about the merits or otherwise, of making abortion illegal beyond the 24 week (5 and a half months) mark (The current Victorian legal limit; after which the permission of 2 doctors must be attained)....The female pro-life Democratic labor MP, Rachel Carling-Jenkins; tried to get her bill passed in the Vic govt, but it was defeated 27 votes to 11.

I'd say the issue is more about some religious kook trying to enforce her opinion, over that of medically trained doctors.