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time to return the traditional Richmond yellow
At least Essendon supporters will finally know their players names
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News The AFL want names on jumpers
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meh, I'm indifferent atm. I'll wait to see how it actually looks before I start crying about it.
Mero
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I believe that sledge is traditionally reserved for Melbourne supporters.
"Well played number 9." "Go and get the ball 7"
Essendon supporters are better known for bagging their own players.
"You're weak Prior, I don't know why we wasted a draft pick on you".
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spot on ... its either advertising or names not both .... way too busy
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Mero
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I'd like to address the comparisons of American or British sporting teams as support for this concept.
You would be better (and more accurate) to compare Australian football to Kabaddi, the sport played in Southern Asia to any of the North American sports or Soccer, the sport with the largest following in the world.
To go on and suggest teams such as the NY Yankees have ANY comparison to Australian sport is ludicrous.
When Matsui was playing for them, the Yankees sold more licensed jerseys in Japan than we sell jumpers for any one team in Australia.
As for Manchester United, we have nothing like them either. Nor Manchester City for that matter.
In fact, if we're going on Mancunian theme, WIgan Athletic is probably a closer fit to any of the Australian teams in terms of domestic and international reach.
But they're hardly and sexy and interesting as Man U, Arsenal or Liverpool who could just about draw 50,000 to a game anywhere in the world.
If Collingwood and Essendon played each other in any other city in the world apart from Melbourne, they wouldn't get 5,000, not counting the supporters from Melbourne who would travel to the game to watch it.
As far as the practical side of things, the names will not be seen by spectators, as they will be too small or the game will be moving too fast. They will be seen on TV only when the game has stopped, because the game is faster than any sport except ice hockey. (Who use names on jerseys, and you can never read them)
This is purely a marketing exercise to make sure people buy new jumpers every time a player leaves. And like most AFL initiatives based on short term grabs for cash, the expected million dollar pay day never comes.
Yes, there will be more money in this than not doing it, there will be thousands of dollars.
But there won't be millions of dollars, and is it worth changing the unique aspects of our game to try and replicate something we're better than, simply because they make so much out of it because of the reach of the British Empire in the 1800s, or the American TV culture since the 1960-70s?
Personally, I don't see the benefits (small change) being worth adding unnecessary clutter to the backs of jumpers that already have numbers to identify players, and sponsorship to keep the money coming into the clubs.
So; Jumper sales.
The AFL get 12.5% of the whole sale value of a jumper.
So a jumper that sells for $100 at Rebel is about $50 wholesale.
The AFL makes $6.25. Of that 66% goes to the club whose merchandise is sold.
So each club makes $4.12, and the AFL keeps $2.12
Thousands of jumpers per year get sold, and will be sold anyway.
Names on jumpers means that the Taylor Adams and Stuart Crameri ones gets put in a cupboard and the people with them buy new ones.
Woop de doo. We're possibly talking about an extra couple of grand a year, and for teams like Melbourne and the Bulldogs, who sell 1.4 & 2 % of the AFL merchandise respectively, it will make virtually no difference at all.
Dumb idea for virtually no financial benefit.
You would be better (and more accurate) to compare Australian football to Kabaddi, the sport played in Southern Asia to any of the North American sports or Soccer, the sport with the largest following in the world.
To go on and suggest teams such as the NY Yankees have ANY comparison to Australian sport is ludicrous.
When Matsui was playing for them, the Yankees sold more licensed jerseys in Japan than we sell jumpers for any one team in Australia.
As for Manchester United, we have nothing like them either. Nor Manchester City for that matter.
In fact, if we're going on Mancunian theme, WIgan Athletic is probably a closer fit to any of the Australian teams in terms of domestic and international reach.
But they're hardly and sexy and interesting as Man U, Arsenal or Liverpool who could just about draw 50,000 to a game anywhere in the world.
If Collingwood and Essendon played each other in any other city in the world apart from Melbourne, they wouldn't get 5,000, not counting the supporters from Melbourne who would travel to the game to watch it.
As far as the practical side of things, the names will not be seen by spectators, as they will be too small or the game will be moving too fast. They will be seen on TV only when the game has stopped, because the game is faster than any sport except ice hockey. (Who use names on jerseys, and you can never read them)
This is purely a marketing exercise to make sure people buy new jumpers every time a player leaves. And like most AFL initiatives based on short term grabs for cash, the expected million dollar pay day never comes.
Yes, there will be more money in this than not doing it, there will be thousands of dollars.
But there won't be millions of dollars, and is it worth changing the unique aspects of our game to try and replicate something we're better than, simply because they make so much out of it because of the reach of the British Empire in the 1800s, or the American TV culture since the 1960-70s?
Personally, I don't see the benefits (small change) being worth adding unnecessary clutter to the backs of jumpers that already have numbers to identify players, and sponsorship to keep the money coming into the clubs.
So; Jumper sales.
The AFL get 12.5% of the whole sale value of a jumper.
So a jumper that sells for $100 at Rebel is about $50 wholesale.
The AFL makes $6.25. Of that 66% goes to the club whose merchandise is sold.
So each club makes $4.12, and the AFL keeps $2.12
Thousands of jumpers per year get sold, and will be sold anyway.
Names on jumpers means that the Taylor Adams and Stuart Crameri ones gets put in a cupboard and the people with them buy new ones.
Woop de doo. We're possibly talking about an extra couple of grand a year, and for teams like Melbourne and the Bulldogs, who sell 1.4 & 2 % of the AFL merchandise respectively, it will make virtually no difference at all.
Dumb idea for virtually no financial benefit.
Hank93
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From an aesthetic look, they'll either have to get rid of the collar wording completely, or make the numbers smaller.
If none of these occur, it's going to look really cluttered.
If none of these occur, it's going to look really cluttered.
Shit idea...
Hank93
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Trial will only occur in Round 5.
Things like SMFC and FFC on back collar won't be removed. The numbers are going to have to be mighty small to fit the name in properly then.
Things like SMFC and FFC on back collar won't be removed. The numbers are going to have to be mighty small to fit the name in properly then.
Hank93
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Was in oporto today in haymarket and overheard a group discussing this change, not sure how they felt (was with my missus) but the news is starting to spread
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lmach
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Useful piece of info.
I'd suspect it would spread quickly though if it's on the front page of the AFL site and doing the rounds on Facebook.
Wasn't paying much attention until I heard "the afl want names on guernseys", was tempted to ask if he was from this board but I decided not to make a fool of myself
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Oh look, the sky isn't falling.
This looks great!
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Nah, looks shit.
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Shit
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Oh look, the sky isn't falling.
This looks great!
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Looks OK, but not great. I personally don't see the point. The game moves too fast for it to be useful anyway.
Oh look, the sky isn't falling.
This looks great!
Besides, people who care who has the ball and whatnot already recognise players by numbers, looks etc. Those who don't generally don't care very much.
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time to return the traditional Richmond yellow
Those Riewoldt pics are from last year
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I dont mind them, but they really nee the black outline for the letters as well as the numbers
Not quite. I care who has the ball, but I cant always tell who it is by face. Doesnt mean Im any less of a supporter by not knoing a layers face off by heart. But yes, the game is too fast paced for the names in a full season
Riccardo11
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Oh look, the sky isn't falling.
This looks great!
I don't love it and I don't hate it. If it happens, it happens.
I remember feeling the jumper was ruined after they put sponsors on the back below the numbers back in the day, now they look weird without them. We will adapt.
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I wasn't suggesting that, I meant that a number does the trick just as well as a name and is a lot less cluttering (if that's a word).
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