I reckon despite GCS demands to draft Jack Martin again, they won’t do it. There is ruthless by asking too much for an uncontracted player in the trade period and then there is foolish to re-draft someone who publically nominated another club.Yeah that's true. If he is confident and can find a way to get him thru the PSD it's not that bad at all. Can't pay overs for Jack Martin in a trade sense. Melbourne won't have the cap space to pick him. It's whether or not gold coast pay him the big money when they know he wants out
As a stop gap for 12 months (even with Jack), I wouldn’t mind that.I know he isn't half the player Papley is but we should be making contact with Sam Gray again. He's still an upgrade on no small forward. Also look at Lowson from Coburg again. Whilst missing Papley who is a gun sucks we've just got to get another small fwd in the door
It's not. The deal just can't get done unless the Danniher one gets done. You guys offered a very good pick package for Danniher but Essendon wanted a player included.So how's that on us?
It was linked. I don't know why we would give up a player, but mind you I never got why we were in for Daniher in the first place.It's not. The deal just can't get done unless the Danniher one gets done. You guys offered a very good pick package for Danniher but Essendon wanted a player included.
Not saying he would have helped get the deal done but I dont get why Sam Reid's name wasn't linked to Essendon. With Danniher, Buddy, Blakey & McCartin I never really saw how Reid would fit into that forward line at all.
Clearly you didn't as it didn't eventuate. The fact you had to rely on other deals going through to make your offer worthwhile says it all.Carlton had the currency to get Tom Papley - Pick 9. Essendon wanted Pick 5 and Pick 9 (from Carlton) from Sydney for Joe Daniher. Sydney, well within their rights, felt that too steep a price to pay for Joe Daniher. We can’t help Dodoro’s demands.
As for “courting” a player. Tom Papley nominated Carlton. No nomination, no courting. The end.
They also wanted our future first to be included.Gold Coast wanted 9 and would have given 15 back.. So Martin for a 6 pick slide. Now you'll have to use 9 on him and don't have 15. No way he gets past GCS in the PSD so national draft it will be. You got schooled by the Suns.
Yeah I don't get the need for Danniher at all for you guys. I'd get it if you were somehow getting an okay pick for Reid. Or you were turning Reid & Papley into Danniher.It was linked. I don't know why we would give up a player, but mind you I never got why we were in for Daniher in the first place.
So? Just come out of a 3 year period with no first rounders. Nothing to be feared.They also wanted our future first to be included.
GC: Pick 9 + Carlton 2020 1st rounder
Carl: Martin + Pick 15 + GC 2020 2nd rounder
That would leave us with 0x 2020 1st round picks & 2x 2020 2nd round picks. In a heavily diluted draft.
How would we have two of the 3?So? Just come out of a 3 year period with no first rounders. Nothing to be feared.
They always replenish themselves each season.
You'd also have at least two of Papley, Martin and Wines.
That improves your list.
“Says it all”? Yes, Sydney wanted Daniher if Papley was leaving. That’s been stated from the very beginning. No Daniher, no Papley. So you’re right, Carlton had to rely on another deal happening for the club to get Papley.Clearly you didn't as it didn't eventuate. The fact you had to rely on other deals going through to make your offer worthwhile says it all.
Let's move on to Martin then. Out of contract so should have been as easy to transact as Kelly was for the Eagles... Yet here we are.
Gold Coast wanted 9 and would have given 15 back.. So Martin for a 6 pick slide. Now you'll have to use 9 on him and don't have 15. No way he gets past GCS in the PSD so national draft it will be. You got schooled by the Suns.
Or how about we move on to Wines. Wanted to come to the Blues, and you turned him down as you had set your sights on Martin and Papley... and got neither.
So in summary you got a broken down Betts. A back up ruckman in Pittonet. Turned down a player wanting to be at your club and couldn't get the two worthwhile deals done.
SOS screwed the pooch big time. I think he may still be concussed.
In the single Martin deal that is great. Still would have loved the Papley though. Perfect little prick of a small forward. Oh well hopefully pick 9 still has one of Serano, Flanders or Ash availableSeems its going to work out great for Carlton with Martin looking like making there in the PSD. Bargain.
Okay, I knew that it had been denied through the media after the story broke but didn’t see that SOS and Dodoro did in fact confirm it. As you said, we didn’t even have the currency for such a trade, especially for another another teams captain.Wines name definitely was discussed by his people to club's, Carlton Richmond and Essendon I think I read. SOS and Dodoro confirmed on radio this morning
All 3 would love him on their list.
Richmond as premiers didn't have much cap room or picks to get it done.
Carlton had one pick set aside for Papley, once that looked impossible it was too late to move onto port to get their captain in.
Essendon who possibly need an inside bull the most at the time had only a 2020 first round pick. Had they have accepted pick 5 and 9 for Danniher that may have got ports attention for Wines. But with the first 7 days of the trade period asking Sydney for players and not picks this never got off the ground.
Jack’s agent said on SEN yesterday that GCS and Melbourne have been informed that he only wants to get to Carlton. The PSD looks like it’s going to be where Jack is selected. ND is tricky, as there are 3 Victorian clubs before Carlton.Seems its going to work out great for Carlton with Martin looking like making there in the PSD. Bargain.
*glances over to Geelong’s 1st round fixture and starts laughing*Tigers again get the bye first up.