Unsolved The Beaumont Children

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I have no clue & nor do I want to. The man chooses to remain anonymous & I don't blame him. I do however respect his decision to stay that way as should everyone
Fair enough. Where did you read that this person exists? Just never heard of them in my readings


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Fair enough. Where did you read that this person exists? Just never heard of them in my readings


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He got in contact with Suzie Ratcliffe first because of her "Leave a light on " foundation. He told her his story & together they went to the police. Out of respect only people who need to, know him & his name. This man has lived a life of hell. Suzie is in constant contact with him. If you've never read of it you need to go through the last few pages on here as he is mentioned
 

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I can't recall there being any confusion and the police search commenced fairly much immediately upon them being reported missing. The only confusion I have read of is the Vietnam Vet witness who didn't associate the kids he spoke to with the missing BC children because he thought they went missing on a different day.
One of the confusions I've read about was they were supposed to have gone missing from Collie Reserve or Glenelg Foreshore where they actually went missing from. These two names seem to be interchanged in witness statements.

Glenelg Foreshore was specified on the cold case missing children's poster the Vietnam Vet saw. He also said he spoke to the elderly couple after the children left in the car. Woman 3 was the elderly woman who gave evidence, she often seems to get mixed up with the elderly woman (Woman 1) who gave evidence she saw the children on the grassed foreshore at Glenelg foreshore playing under the sprinkler with the brown haired fit man mid 30's man. She saw them leaving the beach around 11.30 am, they were then seen at the bakery by themselves, returned to their towels with the same man looking for money their mother gave them. This man helped them get dressed then went off to change rooms with trousers, bare chested with towel.

Then woman 3 (the elderly woman in the couple) saw them around 12.15 waiting on a seat close to the change rooms and the young blonde slender man. The woman was able to describe the children’s clothing, right down to the airline-type bag the oldest girl was carrying. This collaborates with the Viet Vet's sighting of the children with Munro.

Visions Jan 26th 2018 has some aerial maps of Glenelg Foreshore and Colley reserve in 1959 which would have been largely the same in 1966, showing the differences in location of
1. Glenelg foreshore
2. Harry Phipps house
3. Wenzels bakery
4. Collie Reserve

and last sighting from woman in elderly couple and Viet vet on seat near Wenzels on Colley Rd near change rooms. Three children and Munro got into flash car and headed north according to Viet Vet.


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Police didn't mention the pound note the children used to buy the bakery items until a year after they went missing. And then what they bought with the money was briefly described as pasties and a pie im most reports I've read. The items which were recorded in an original police report (pictured somewhere on this thread) were itemised as;

6 finger buns
5 pasties
1 pie
2 large bottles of coca cola

Both the pound note they used and what was bought should have been important information at the time in my opinion
 
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I don’t believe a word Ruth says and clearly the police don’t either. Facts are if there was enough evidence to dig this sinkhole they would have done it by now. Police are not just going to go around and dig they want some hard evidence before they do so.
 

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I don’t believe a word Ruth says and clearly the police don’t either. Facts are if there was enough evidence to dig this sinkhole they would have done it by now. Police are not just going to go around and dig they want some hard evidence before they do so.
It's not just Ruth, but Andrew saying it as well. Both saying some of the cops at the time were involved in sexual abuse of children in State care, (as well as another sister giving testimony about her fathers sexual abuse of her and many others). Ruth and Andrew's claims about Max procuring children from State run Institutions for weekend filming of pornography and for sexual playthings of many including cops, could be correct but we don't know as names of perpetrators have been suppressed for 80 years.

Their mother might have known but she died at 34 (natural causes they say!) after being told and possibly going to the cops with information and their elder sister died in strange circumstances only a day after finally going to the cops with information about her father Max McIntyre and where she witnessed him buying the Beaumont children.

Mostly the cops refused to take any information about Andrew McIntyre from Ruth or Andrew and Max McIntyre always said he had immunity for life from the cops.

Macka, I'm curious if your name is McIntrye? Was there is a son from Max's second marriage who inherited all his money and property?
 

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Andrew Mcintyre claims that two weeks after the Beaumonts disappeared, Munro drove him from Adelaide to his father's property in Stansbury on the Yorke Peninsula.

He says he dropped him in the driveway and sped off.

Andrew walked towards the house he noticed something had changed. The sinkhole at the back of the property had been filled in.

"Anthony Munro brought me over to Stansbury to point me in that direction... to see that the well had been filled in,” Andrew said.

Andrew said Munro told him “a flock of sheep had run down it. The sheep that'd lived on the property for years”.

He's convinced the Beaumonts are buried there and believes the authorities have an obligation to dig it up.

"My father liked to have his victims close handy,” Andrew said.

"He was a very cruel man, I've always been terrified of him. I have constant nightmares about my father.”

https://au.news.yahoo.com/max-mcintyre-tony-munro-had-beaumont-children-in-car-boot-36061720.html
 

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One thing BlueE. If I was as adamant as the McIntyre kids that the Beaumonts were buried there I'd have personally hired a backhoe to dig them up, considering the cops wouldn't do it.
 

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One thing BlueE. If I was as adamant as the McIntyre kids that the Beaumonts were buried there I'd have personally hired a backhoe to dig them up, considering the cops wouldn't do it.
I'm sure they would if they could. It seems the son who now owns the property will not give them permission to enter the property.

The children said their father took the oldest daughter (who was 14 or 15) in the car with him when he went to bury the Beaumont children. They went to a location but then he went back two weeks later and told her he dug the children up and reburied them in the sink hole at his Stanbury property

This was when Andrew was taken to the property by Munro.

While I think Phipps was involved in some way I think there is just as much or more evidence than they had for the Phipps factory dig for the cops to dig up the sinkhole at McIntryre's Stanbury property.

I believe this is the property from Google satellite view.

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sprockets Danny & Simone McIntyre will only allow a dig by professionals & with SAPOL's presence. They're the stipulations.
It makes them look like decent people because Ruth & Andrew have the money & the professionals to have it done but SAPOL want nothing to do with it. This is something both Danny & Simone know & itworks in their favour looking like perfect angels doing everything they can. Besides, getting charged with trespassing & more isn't something anyone wants but will face if they dare step foot near the sinkhole without Danny & Simone's permission
There is also another witnbess SAPOL have interviewed as he knew far too much to not be telling the truth but SAPOL have done nothing again other than interview him. He's never met the McIntyre's but take a wild guess at who the new witness's Scout Master was....
 

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I'm sure they would if they could. It seems the son who now owns the property will not give them permission to enter the property.

The children said their father took the oldest daughter (who was 14 or 15) in the car with him when he went to bury the Beaumont children. They went to a location but then he went back two weeks later and told her he dug the children up and reburied them in the sink hole at his Stanbury property

This was when Andrew was taken to the property by Munro.

While I think Phipps was involved in some way I think there is just as much or more evidence than they had for the Phipps factory dig for the cops to dig up the sinkhole at McIntryre's Stanbury property.

I believe this is the property from Google satellite view.

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sprockets Danny & Simone McIntyre will only allow a dig by professionals & with SAPOL's presence. They're the stipulations.
It makes them look like decent people because Ruth & Andrew have the money & the professionals to have it done but SAPOL want nothing to do with it. This is something both Danny & Simone know & itworks in their favour looking like perfect angels doing everything they can. Besides, getting charged with trespassing & more isn't something anyone wants but will face if they dare step foot near the sinkhole without Danny & Simone's permission
There is also another witnbess SAPOL have interviewed as he knew far too much to not be telling the truth but SAPOL have done nothing again other than interview him. He's never met the McIntyre's but take a wild guess at who the new witness's Scout Master was....
That's now. The disappearance happened 54 years ago. When did MM die? How long has the brother owned the property? Did he buy the rest of the kids out of the inherited property? When? Was there a time when it could have been dug up, in between the death and the brother owning the property?

If I knew the Beaumont kids were there the threat of legal action wouldn't stop me and it'll be covered anyway.
 
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That's now. The disappearance happened 54 years ago. When did MM die? How long has the brother owned the property? Did he buy the rest of the kids out of the inherited property? When? Was there a time when it could have been dug up, in between the death and the brother owning the property?

If I knew the Beaumont kids were there the threat of legal action wouldn't stop me and it'll be covered anyway.
2017 & Max wrote the three McIntyre kids out of the will years before because They (mainly Ruth) talking about it on blogs around 2007 and SM. Andrew doesn't have any SM at all but has talked about it well before it became very public in 2007, I could be wrong on the dates but I know it's been years. Max was very well taken care of by police who needed a fix it man. Don't you think that they were scared of their father? Most victims are petrified of those who rape them and Max wasn't biased on the gender he raped or his kids being his victims. You forget, max had two families. Only Andrew, Claire and Ruth were from the same two parents and only they were born before the Beaumonts went missing. When Max has connections to the right people say, lawyers, detectives, judges, you'd be scared too. Why else would Tony Munro skip the country &move to a paedophiles wet dream of a country to abuse more kids & get away with it. If not for Andrew's diary & his and another victim's testimony, Tony'd still be out there doing what he does best, paying people to look the other way while he rapes innocent kids and paying others to keep their mouths shut. Most lt is his morally corrupt sister, her second husband & her kids who are happy to look the other way when a millionaire family member pays for your extravagant lifestyle
 

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2017 & Max wrote the three McIntyre kids out of the will years before because They (mainly Ruth) talking about it on blogs around 2007 and SM. Andrew doesn't have any SM at all but has talked about it well before it became very public in 2007, I could be wrong on the dates but I know it's been years. Max was very well taken care of by police who needed a fix it man. Don't you think that they were scared of their father? Most victims are petrified of those who rape them and Max wasn't biased on the gender he raped or his kids being his victims. You forget, max had two families. Only Andrew, Claire and Ruth were from the same two parents and only they were born before the Beaumonts went missing. When Max has connections to the right people say, lawyers, detectives, judges, you'd be scared too. Why else would Tony Munro skip the country &move to a paedophiles wet dream of a country to abuse more kids & get away with it. If not for Andrew's diary & his and another victim's testimony, Tony'd still be out there doing what he does best, paying people to look the other way while he rapes innocent kids and paying others to keep their mouths shut. Most lt is his morally corrupt sister, her second husband & her kids who are happy to look the other way when a millionaire family member pays for your extravagant lifestyle
That's quite a conspiracy.
 
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That's quite a conspiracy.
it's the very sad & awful fact. I don't see historic child sexual abuse victims making **** up for it & even Max McIntyre himself said on camera that "I walked in on Tony (Munro) & Andrew in bed (aged 14 at the time I think). I didn't make a fuss, he was my son, he was a beautiful boy & he was in love with a scout master" Any father that isn't a paedophile would NEVER & I mean NEVER walk away & let his "friend" continue to rape his very own son. If it were your underage son with your best friend, how would you react? I sure as hell hope you wouldn't think it was ok to let your son get raped & just walk away
 

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That's quite a conspiracy.
I assume you are meaning Conspiracy theory.

However if you look at what Willow has written, except for one point all can be corroborated or are facts. The only point I couldn't find any evidence for was that McIntrye sexually assaulted his male children. Little girls, including his daughters who both have medical evidence of a specific cut he made on them to facilitate sexual abuse when they were very young, seemed to be his preference.
 
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I assume you are meaning Conspiracy theory.

However if you look at what Willow has written, except for one point all can be corroborated or are facts. The only point I couldn't find any evidence for was that McIntrye sexually assaulted his male children. Little girls, including his daughters who both have medical evidence of a specific cut he made on them to facilitate sexual abuse when they were very young, seemed to be his preference.
I've been told Max was bisexual. more so closeted gay though. There are medical reports of Margaret (Andrew, Claire & Ruth's mum) telling a shrink she thought Max was gay.
Something that has never been answered & I can only guess myself is if Max sexually abused Tony Munro. Only Tony can answer that so I doubt we'll ever know. Tony's dad died young, Max was on the scene & Tony's mum was glad because Max was a fair bit old than Tony & she thought he'd be a good fatherly figure for him. Little did she know the exact kind of father Max really was.No proof as in documents but Andrew says he was also raped by his dad. I believe him 100% too. He still has nightmares to this day. I hate every single person who helped facilitate Max's paedophile lifestyle & all that know/knew the truth & have kept their mouths shut. They could have given answers to the Beaumonts many years ago but I don't see that happening before they both pass & that pisses me off even more
 
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