Politics The comparison between Hitler and Donald Trump (It's not about genocide)

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Really? Why is the deep State and assorted neocons rounding on Trump to oust him?

Because he's unpredictable and probably certifiable.

Bush 43 wasn't a war hawk until the opportunity presented itself.

 

[DemonTim]

And you the 000,000s who werent part of the Hussein regime?

Can you please advise of what I'd convey to them? Are you saying they'd be unhappy being told that innocents were impacted by 9/11?

He didnt say that either though.

He said the us ia a bully and when hurt a bully lashs out

He said nothing about the dead being to blame, you projected that

I asked if he would say it to those impacted? Would you tell a US citizen impacted by 9/11 that it was their fault? If you're blaming the US for the attack aren't you blaming their citizens? How do you project blame onto the US and ignore parts of the US?
Is violence able to be blamed on a bully? Is murder able to be blamed on a violent bully?

 

[DemonTim]

I don't think they were to blame, they were innocent victims sadly, but the actions of their government both Republican, and Democrat over the years prior to it left them with a pretty big target on their foreheads. But rather than look inwardly, and ask why someone might want to do this to their country, with god on their side, and American exceptionalism in their heart, they lashed out everywhere, and are a big part of the reason that IS exists to this day.

So their actions prior excused them being angry at the party who conducted the attacks?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Can you please advise of what I'd convey to them? Are you saying they'd be unhappy being told that innocents were impacted by 9/11?

Well the same stuff about innocent civillians being caught in the crossfire of terrorists, whether American or islamist.

 

[igon value]

Because he's unpredictable and probably certifiable.

Yeah we need the predictability of the likes of John Bolton, Victoria Nuland and Elliot Abrams.

Bush 43 wasn't a war hawk until the opportunity presented itself.

Err, yes he was

 

[Gough]

So their actions prior excused them being angry at the party who conducted the attacks?

Not at all, I'd be pissed too if it had happened to me. But the US is not the innocent victim in this that they'd like to see themselves as, and portrayed themselves as.

 

[DemonTim]

Well the same stuff about innocent civillians being caught in the crossfire of terrorists, whether American or islamist.

So he shouldn't say it to Americans? (Or Australian citizens living in America)

Not at all, I'd be pissed too if it had happened to me. But the US is not the innocent victim in this that they'd like to see themselves as, and portrayed themselves as.

So you refer to the "US" as a whole in this, but you really mean those who pushed a terrible foreign policy? Do you also blame 'Australia' for the Lindt siege?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Can you please advise of what I'd convey to them? Are you saying they'd be unhappy being told that innocents were impacted by 9/11?


I asked if he would say it to those impacted? Would you tell a US citizen impacted by 9/11 that it was their fault? If you're blaming the US for the attack aren't you blaming their citizens? How do you project blame onto the US and ignore parts of the US?
Is violence able to be blamed on a bully? Is murder able to be blamed on a violent bully?

The us govt as an entity and an individual us citizen are two separate things.

Saying the govt is a bully isn't saying the individual is or that individual deserves punishment

 

[CM86]

Gough has had the same stance forever. But now he is a moderator they link it to him being part of the admin machine.

Anything to slag this site that you're addicted to...

Gough those of us who aren't hyperventilating definitely understood your post.

 

[Chief]

The joke was completely missed by Maher, Jefferies, and 99% of the studio (his humour is wasted on those incapable of critical thinking), but it’s the funniest and most accurate observation I’ve heard in regard to the current political climate in some time. Well worth a watch.

Whose humour?


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[Gough]

So he shouldn't say it to Americans? (Or Australian citizens living in America)


So you refer to the "US" as a whole in this, but you really mean those who pushed a terrible foreign policy? Do you also blame 'Australia' for the Lindt siege?

Lindt was a psycho with a gun, not a terrorist. Although if you want talk blame, let's start with John Howard, and George Brandis.

 

[igon value]

Lindt was a psycho with a gun, not a terrorist. Although if you want talk blame, let's start with John Howard, and George Brandis.

The defence of Salafists and their fascistic fellow travellers is fascinating. It's always someone elses fault. We should also blame Howard and Brandis for a man who helped murder his ex wife and had been sexually assaulted a number of women before deciding to shoot some people in Lindt Cafe. Those other crimes must be the responsibility of Liberal Party politicians.

 

[Gough]

Howard let him in, Brandis ignored the warnings about him, when it comes to blame it's hardly Dylan goes electric to point the finger their way.

 

[igon value]

Howard let him in, Brandis ignored the warnings about him, when it comes to blame it's hardly Dylan goes electric to point the finger their way.

Yawn.

You're a milquetoast of the first order.

 

[Gough]

You been reading a dictionary again son?

 

[igon value]

You been reading a dictionary again son?

So passive aggressive.

Was the suicide attack on the Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine the other day a result of Western foreign policy?

Or was it because the regressive Salafist strain of Islam now dominates that culture - such that murdering Sufis is justified because they practice shirk.

If you were willing to peer into this world, instead of your self-satisfied received wisdom about what and what not to think, you might learn something


Read through the thread.

 

[skilts]

From the evidence we have seen so far, the Left haven't learnt sfa from what cost them the White House.

Which is to say that they have learned quite a lot.

 

[skilts]

What, like reincarnated from Hitler's eternally damned soul?

Nah, it's the same crew which keeps exhuming Jesus.

 

[skilts]

September 11 2001 was a classic case of the bully getting the bloodied nose, and like all bullies they blindly lashed out, and blamed everyone but themselves.

This is why I laughed like a drain as the events of 11/9 unfolded. It was inevitable they would do exactly this. Hey, they're that stupid. Look who just got elected. It has come to this.

They will regain a smidgen of credibility when they 'car park' Saudi Arabia.

 

[Chief]

So passive aggressive.

Was the suicide attack on the Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine the other day a result of Western foreign policy?

Or was it because the regressive Salafist strain of Islam now dominates that culture - such that murdering Sufis is justified because they practice shirk.

If you were willing to peer into this world, instead of your self-satisfied received wisdom about what and what not to think, you might learn something


Read through the thread.

Did you also read the messages of anger, shock and shame and commiseration? There is hope in that people are speaking out against this violence.

 

[igon value]

Did you also read the messages of anger, shock and shame and commiseration? There is hope in that people are speaking out against this violence.

Sufis are practically wiped out everywhere except Central Asia. These are the liberal Muslims that people talk about, driven into submission by mainstream Islam that sees them as heretics, cheerled by Salafist sympathisers in the West.

 

[Chief]

Sufis are practically wiped out everywhere except Central Asia. These are the liberal Muslims that people talk about, driven into submission by mainstream Islam that sees them as heretics, cheerled by Salafist sympathisers in the West.

Ok - not really disputed far as I know.

 

[igon value]

Ok - not really disputed far as I know.

The mainstream "moderate" Islam people talk about has the same worldview as mainstream Catholicism of the 13th century. No one in their right mind would defend Catholicism of that era (or even now) so why Islam?

 

[Seeds]

September 11 2001 was a classic case of the bully getting the bloodied nose, and like all bullies they blindly lashed out, and blamed everyone but themselves.

This post is just as dumb as all the crap Trump fans spout. There is no right or wrong side in the Middle East debacle. All sides have been victims and instigators at different points of time. Only forgiveness and agreement on a common value system will ever heal things. The first may be possible if strong leaders are found but the second looks impossible whilst ideologies of all sides significantly differ.

 

[Maggie5]

Or whilst oil and weapons manufacturers are involved.
Too much money at stake.