Opinion The I Was Wrong thread- Where Tom Atkins posts go to die

[CatRiot]

I was happily wrong. I wanted Devon Robertson over SDK.

 

[cats_09]

He's ahead of smith and holmes this season and menegolas been injured.

averaging same disposals per game as smith (and only 2 less then duncan) but double the tackles and 1 percenters per game then both of them. His 1 percenters is at the same rate as tom atkins.

you cant fault clark defensively compared to his peers this season And his offsensive side has improved further.

its just plain denial to assume he wouldnt be going well at geelong this year. We would be discussing him as a revelation this season alongside dekonning and stengle.

Are you suggesting that Clark would be playing as a member of our midfield group?

 

[Seeds]

Are you suggesting that Clark would be playing as a member of our midfield group?

You can read exactly what i wrote in the post you are quoting. Clark is performing better then smith and holmes.

 

[feelinfeline]

its just plain denial to assume he wouldnt be going well at geelong this year. We would be discussing him as a revelation this season alongside dekonning and stengle.

Would Clark be going well at Geelong? Pure speculation. We have no idea.

He had lost confidence at Geelong. Whose fault was that? His, the MC's or someone else's? We don't know. I'm sure being in and out of the team constantly didn't help, but his form didn't warrant continued selection. There is talk Scarlo didn't rate him and didn't want him in his backline.

He has clearly benefited from a fresh start at Freo. Good on him. We got Conway as a result of the trade, who is looking very promising.

 

[Lana]

You can read exactly what i wrote in the post you are quoting. Clark is performing better then smith and holmes.

If you're only focused on super coach

 

[cats_09]

If you're only focused on super coach

You mean that Supercoach isn't the best means when discussing as players value...

 

[Pure_Ownage]

You can read exactly what i wrote in the post you are quoting. Clark is performing better then smith and holmes.

Clark is not a midfielders backside especially in our system. Lacks the accountability for it.

He is a very good running defender but we are well stocked there hence he would still be in the vfl if he was here.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

Clark is best 22 playing in a team equal first on the ladder and has conceded less points than us. He can't be that bad or he wouldn't be playing for a more defensive team in Freo.

He's 21 and has plenty of years development in him and has had a good year this year.

 

[Seeds]

Clark is not a midfielders backside especially in our system. Lacks the accountability for it.

He is a very good running defender but we are well stocked there hence he would still be in the vfl if he was here.

Well he is doing pretty well then as a defender to be racking up midfielder numbers then isnt he? and doing better defensively then the likes of duncan who is also playing off half back.

freo is equal with us on the ladder and he is in their top 10 players. He would be clearly in our our top 22 now and easily too.

this is the i am wrong thread. Maybe its time to admit we are wrong about clark.

 

[iameviljez]

He is a very good running defender but we are well stocked there hence he would still be in the vfl if he was here.

Our small defenders tonight are Tuohy, O’Connor, Bews, Zuthrie and Kolo. To argue that Clark would be somehow sixth picked out of that lot would be insanity.

He’s a good footballer, Geelong screwed up. We still win more than we lose but we screwed up.

 

[catempire]

Our small defenders tonight are Tuohy, O’Connor, Bews, Zuthrie and Kolo. To argue that Clark would be somehow sixth picked out of that lot would be insanity.

He’s a good footballer, Geelong screwed up. We still win more than we lose but we screwed up.

Complete nonsense. He’s playing as a loose defender and ours is Stewart.

He was never going to displace the players you mention because he can’t defend (and they all can) which is why that’s the only role he has found form in is loose man.

 

[iameviljez]

Complete nonsense. He’s playing as a loose defender and ours is Stewart.

He was never going to displace the players you mention because he can’t defend (and they all can) which is why that’s the only role he has found form in is loose man.

He can defend, this “Clark can’t defend” stuff has arisen as a justification for bad decisions by the club.

 

[catempire]

He can defend, this “Clark can’t defend” stuff has arisen as a justification for bad decisions by the club.

Lol.

 

[JohnZ]

I thought the MCG was a wide ground, yet it appears we can cheat quite a bit here too? I'm confused, need a richmond nuffie to explain it to me.

 

[cats_09]

He can defend, this “Clark can’t defend” stuff has arisen as a justification for bad decisions by the club.

If we're looking at our options to play on the opposition's top small forwards, I'm going Bews, O'Connor or Tuohy long before I'd look at Clark

We got the best out of Clark after he moved up the ground to play wing and through the midfield - there was a spot there for the taking if he wanted it, but apart from season 1, I'm not sure his form across season 2 or 3 was warranting of more games than he played

 

[dazbroncos]

Our small defenders tonight are Tuohy, O’Connor, Bews, Zuthrie and Kolo. To argue that Clark would be somehow sixth picked out of that lot would be insanity.

He’s a good footballer, Geelong screwed up. We still win more than we lose but we screwed up.

ahhh no.

Respect your opinion as yours choice..... but no thanks.

That unit you listed just took down another top 8 team.

I'll take whats on our list.

GO CAtters

 

[Pivo]

I thought the MCG was a wide ground, yet it appears we can cheat quite a bit here too? I'm confused, need a richmond nuffie to explain it to me.

After today's result there are no Richmond supporters around willing to show their faces so you'll need an alternative.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Our small defenders tonight are Tuohy, O’Connor, Bews, Zuthrie and Kolo. To argue that Clark would be somehow sixth picked out of that lot would be insanity.

He’s a good footballer, Geelong screwed up. We still win more than we lose but we screwed up.

Strong disagree. Not a single one of those I'd want Clark in over.
You're right, Geelong did screw up... By drafting a player we didn't need. Made amends getting a good pick back and getting hopefully a 10 year ruck.

 

[PhatBoy]

You can read exactly what i wrote in the post you are quoting. Clark is performing better then smith and holmes.

I’m sure there’s a draftee somewhere in the league that was taken after some of ours who is getting 0.1 more contested possessions per game or something than someone we chose who you can start moaning about when you get tired of doing it over Clark

 

[PhatBoy]

He can defend, this “Clark can’t defend” stuff has arisen as a justification for bad decisions by the club.

Why is every decision that sees someone build a career elsewhere a bad one?

 

[crocsta]

I was wrong about team 2022. Respect to all the players this year. Very balanced team with consistent results. I thought we would slide down the ladder with ageing stars but so many have stepped up


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[Pure_Ownage]

Our small defenders tonight are Tuohy, O’Connor, Bews, Zuthrie and Kolo. To argue that Clark would be somehow sixth picked out of that lot would be insanity.

He’s a good footballer, Geelong screwed up. We still win more than we lose but we screwed up.

The only one he might be picked ahead of is zuthrie the rest he was regularly not picked ahead of and wouldnt have been this year. We sold high before his value was lower out of contract. It wasnt a screw up it was a win win.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Well he is doing pretty well then as a defender to be racking up midfielder numbers then isnt he? and doing better defensively then the likes of duncan who is also playing off half back.

freo is equal with us on the ladder and he is in their top 10 players. He would be clearly in our our top 22 now and easily too.

this is the i am wrong thread. Maybe its time to admit we are wrong about clark.

Clark still has defensive moments that leak goals although is having a good season overall. But hes putting up those numbers as freo play a different system (particularly from defense) and it suits what he can and cant do better than our system did. He would not be putting up those numbers in our system as while hes a good player he didnt suit our system-square peg in round hole. Thats not a criticism i do rate him and he will overcome his deficiencies long term but im not unhappy with the trade.

 

[iameviljez]

The only one he might be picked ahead of is zuthrie the rest he was regularly not picked ahead of and wouldnt have been this year. We sold high before his value was lower out of contract. It wasnt a screw up it was a win win.

The screw up was twice - once in not backing him in, once in trading him for a pick in the 20s.

 

[iameviljez]

I will throw in one of my own: I thought Selwood had gone well beyond the point of retirement. Last night showed I was wrong.