Society & Culture The Jessie Wilson case

[Jessica8898]

What i think is absolutely unfair is people assuming as soon as they hear she was known to police that she is a prostitute or into drugs, do people who write these things stop and think about the fact that this is an open thread which does appear in google, which is how i found it
Imagine if this was a story about your son/daughter/sister/brother/friend/relative and you were reading this, spare a thought for her family and her children and have some respect for someone who has lost their life in the most disgusting manner. It does not matter what someones background is or what they have done they don't deserve this or some of the comments being posted

 

[Daytripper]

What i think is absolutely unfair is people assuming as soon as they hear she was known to police that she is a prostitute or into drugs, do people who write these things stop and think about the fact that this is an open thread which does appear in google, which is how i found it
Imagine if this was a story about your son/daughter/sister/brother/friend/relative and you were reading this, spare a thought for her family and her children and have some respect for someone who has lost their life in the most disgusting manner. It does not matter what someones background is or what they have done they don't deserve this or some of the comments being posted

Agreed - and perhaps that is another reason why the media/police/family did not want to run with this case too heavily publicly.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

So how would you suggest they highlight the case when they are not allowed to name the person or publish a photo ?

People need to feel a connection with stories. No name or photo makes it hard to get a connection.

Do you really hear what you're saying?
The media is an intrusive beast.
Since when and why does it censor itself in regards to not naming and not showing pics of people?
The media will name and publish pictures if it has the will to do so.

Jessica8898, I highlighted that point to illustrate the situation.
I have much sympathy for Jessie and her family who must be beside themselves right now.

 

[Daytripper]

Do you really hear what you're saying?
The media is an intrusive beast.
Since when and why does it censor itself in regards to not naming and not showing pics of people?
The media will name and publish pictures if it has the will to do so.

The media censors itself all the time and they will not name and publish pictures if it impacts Aboriginal cultural beliefs. They would get hammered if they did.

You seem to have a strange idea of how the media works - they are not some over-arching evil organisation. They follow compliance guidelines like just about every business in the country

 

[Daytripper]

Jessica8898, I highlighted that point to illustrate the situation.
I have much sympathy for Jessie and her family who must be beside themselves right now.

Really - you sound like you're just using her case to make some ridiculous point.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

Really - you sound like you're just using her case to make some ridiculous point.

Seriously? I can't help you if you think that.

 

[Daytripper]

Seriously? I can't help you if you think that.

Huh - I'm sorry champ. I don't really need your help.

I've tried to explain to you why this case was given much publicity. How about stop being so stubborn and try and learn something.

 

[Jessica8898]

I guess in a way the media is working otherwise none of us would be having this conversation.
The fact is, these crimes are happening every single day to all sorts of different people, it shouldn't matter who they and and why it happens we should be focussing on a way to stop them from happening and creating an awarness.
There used to be a time when walking alone was safe, but it's not anymore.
I won't even walk my dog at night time alone anymore.
I feel sick knowing my children are growing up with this sort of thing happening, and you never ever think it will happen to someone you know, well it does. I went to high school with Jessie.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

Huh - I'm sorry champ. I don't really need your help.

I've tried to explain to you why this case was given much publicity. How about stop being so stubborn and try and learn something.

I'm so open to learning all the time, from everyone and everything.
One can never know everything.

I just hope they catch whoever did this.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Jessica, sorry to hear you had a connection with her. I don't really think society is getting more violent though. In fact, I think I remember seeing that violent crime has consistently decreased since the 60s or so. I may be wrong. But yes, my wife is pregnant and hearing these stories does make you scared of how things will be. That being said, I think it is just that we hear of these things more nowadays due to the speed of the media.

 

[Username_lost]

I can guarantee Jessie's unfortunate death will NOT:
Flood mainstream media;
Engender mass concern and sympathies;
Trend on Twitter;
Receive an emotional on-air eulogy;
Result in about "30,000 people marching through the streets";
Result in a 1,400-post thread.

We all know what I'm referring to.
In now way do I want to trivialise anyone's life/death.
And the reality is that Jill's sad end is off the air: She was found, a man's been charged, she was buried. Her "news cycle" has ended. Question is: Will Jessie's even come close?

You try to make it sound like you care but your motives are base and transparent. Your posts display a lack of discrimination that is common to all the posters who have belittled the community reaction to the Jill Meagher case by comparing it to other cases. If you were really concerned about generating social media that could help in finding Jessie Wilson's killer your OP wouldn't be focusing on the "way out of proportion" reaction to the Jill Meagher case.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

You can think what you want but I'm making an observation on society's double standards.
Not sure how you can't see this.

 

[Username_lost]

You can think what you want but I'm making an observation on society's double standards.
Not sure how you can't see this.

You are being obtuse.

 

[Daytripper]

You can think what you want but I'm making an observation on society's double standards.
Not sure how you can't see this.

It has been explained to you now a number of times why this case could not have gotten much media.

Not sure what you're proposing here - that we should stampede all over long standing Aboriginal cultural beliefs.

 

[campbell]

IMO this should not be spoken about using her name or image on this board.

Please try to respect our mobs beliefs and culture.

The poster who said that applies to only in NT is incorrect.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

It has been explained to you now a number of times why this case could not have gotten much media.

Not sure what you're proposing here - that we should stampede all over long standing Aboriginal cultural beliefs.

Seems to have worked out OK for Australia.

 

[checkraiseulite]

Where is sandrine? Similar point being made to OP

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/where-is-sandrine-20121010-27dbz.html

 

[Daytripper]

Where is sandrine? Similar point being made to OP

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/where-is-sandrine-20121010-27dbz.html

Article explained it well I thought. If the police are non-committal about a disappearance then its likely that the media will treat it a similar way.

Besides which, a simple google search will show that this case has been covered in the local papers from the get-go. Its not the media's fault that the story hasn't resonated with the public. If it had, they would have rune with it.

 

[checkraiseulite]

So getting publicity for someone that goes missing is essentially a marketing exercise.

Got it.

 

[Daytripper]

So getting publicity for someone that goes missing is essentially a marketing exercise.

Got it.

Not sure how you arrived at that.

What are you proposing?
That we force people to become interested in cases that you deem they should be interested in - how do you do that?

 

[JockStewart]

Lets not pretend and say that it has nothing to do with the way she looks. And that photo of Jill..the one that was sued makes her as some attractive and hip female who lives in Brunswick, regrettably one of melbournes hippiest suburbs.

This is the photo which captured our shallow societies imagination:

Had they used this one:

I doubt people would not have reacted the way they have.Even before the CCTV footage came out people were carrying on like she has been the only person ever to vanish of the street.

Also the previous photo and the more recent ones of her..she looks like that zoey chick in a way..she looks like c eleb..OMG OMG!

Heck today there was an article about a missing woman who has been ignored and the family making a mention about one TV station reportly saying "whats special about her" and asking if there were any pics where she looks attractive.

We are a shallow society and the death of Jill Meaher confirmed this.

 

[Sebastian Balboa]

Not sure how you arrived at that.

What are you proposing?
That we force people to become interested in cases that you deem they should be interested in - how do you do that?

He's not asking people to be forced into caring.
It's about equal treatment given to people who go missing. What that journo said to Sandrine's family is shocking. "What's so special about her?" For starters, she's a human, you areshole!
The reaction to Jill was disproportionate, as Jock pointed out, from a shallow society.

*Wasn't calling you an arseh*le, mate, but the journo...

 

[Username_lost]

He's not asking people to be forced into caring.
It's about equal treatment given to people who go missing. What that journo said to Sandrine's family is shocking. "What so special about her?" For starters, she's a human, you areshole!
The reaction to Jill was disproportionate, as Jock pointed out, from a shallow society.

Equal treatment for all missing persons? Get real. People go missing all the time, and mostly it is because they have decided to.

 

[checkraiseulite]

Not sure how you arrived at that.

From the 'expert' in the Sandrine article

It also helps if there are attractive photos and a narrative is built around the missing person, which the public can relate to.

....

He cited Mrs Baden-Clay as an example of a relatable narrative, saying when she went missing the public very quickly knew she studied five languages and ballet and was a "wonderful mother".

....

And they identify with qualities portrayed as someone they would like to know

....

t's [the coverage] a little bit to do with the way people come to view that person as 'someone I would like, identify with or someone I could admire'

Sounds awfully similar to marketing a product. & you'd have to be crazy to think that a how a product is marketed at its inception doesn't affect how much the public care about that product.

 

[JockStewart]

Grief pr0n is big business these days, especially to a struggling print media.