"The Left"

[skilts]

He simply built on what had come before just like all the others (namely Nietzsche - classics majoring #Bojo forbearer that he was).

I would have thought that the deconstructionists were more directly influenced by Heidegger than Nietzsche. Admittedly though, Heidegger, in turn, was profoundly affected by Nietzsche's subjectivism. It seems peculiar to me, if as is being posited here, that deconstructionists are of the 'Leftist' persuasion, given they embraced the thought of Heidegger, a paid-up Nazi. Ah philosophy, what heartbreaking conundrums you present.

 

[skilts]

Aaw shucks, thanks Delta.
Like yourself, I just hang off any pearls of wisdom you care to drop.

You'll soon have enough pearls to form a necklace.

 

[deltablues]

You'll soon have enough pearls to form a necklace.

My pearls compared to yours, skilts, are merely grit in the oyster...

 

[Procrastinator35]

I'm not really the judgemental type, but if I was in the business of ranking philosophers I'd surely be doing it against the one, blinding piece of insight they had, rather than all the rest of the guff they've shoehorned in.

The only one true measure of a philosophers greatness, is in whether or not they copped a mention in the Monty Python hit spoof....And quite clearly....Derrida doesn't cut the mustard.

 

[Little Big John]

The only one true measure of a philosophers greatness, is in whether or not they copped a mention in the Monty Python hit spoof....And quite clearly....Derrida doesn't cut the mustard.

To be fair, Derrida was closer to in age to Python than to the most recent philosopher included in their work - Heidegger off the top of my head. Also, neither Greek nor German.

 

[NSWCROW]

Another shoutout to " THE LEFT " from Miranda the Pond Scum today.


Have come to the conclusion she's made a deal with satan whereas everytime she blames the left for something , he erases any signs of her visible ageing.

 

[Contra Mundum]

I would have thought that the deconstructionists were more directly influenced by Heidegger than Nietzsche. Admittedly though, Heidegger, in turn, was profoundly affected by Nietzsche's subjectivism. It seems peculiar to me, if as is being posited here, that deconstructionists are of the 'Leftist' persuasion, given they embraced the thought of Heidegger, a paid-up Nazi. Ah philosophy, what heartbreaking conundrums you present.

At least they didn't shag him - like Hannah Arendt did .. and she was a Marxist Jew!!!! I don't think Heidegger was that much of an Nazi just a head in the clouds egg head who liked uniforms and an idealised country life - Satre was a big wrap for him after the war

 

[coerced]

The greatest success of neoliberalism has been atomising the left to the point where identity politics and intersectionality dominates over universalism. Solidarity no longer matters, its the accumulated grievances you as an individual have suffered, and where this places you in victimhood hierarchy.

Has there been a better divide and conquer political strategy?

 

[Gough]

Yep, neoliberalism is a great success, all those companies going cap in hand to the government for bail outs during the GFC, which they were largely responsible for. I'd hate to think what you see as a failure.

 

[coerced]

Yep, neoliberalism is a great success, all those companies going cap in hand to the government for bail outs during the GFC, which they were largely responsible for. I'd hate to think what you see as a failure.

The top 0.01% are richer than they have ever been and continue getting richer. How is neoliberalism not a success? It delivered exactly the outcome its proponents wanted, while the left descends into winning meaningless petty squabbles, based on issues of individual identity.

The neolibs of the late 70s wanted a deregulated, low taxing environment with a vast police state to protect them. If you were grading the project it would be A+. How do you rate success?

 

[skilts]

At least they didn't shag him - like Hannah Arendt did .. and she was a Marxist Jew!!!! I don't think Heidegger was that much of an Nazi just a head in the clouds egg head who liked uniforms and an idealised country life - Satre was a big wrap for him after the war

Heidegger's treatment of some Jewish academic colleagues during the Nazi era was opportunistic, ambitious and shameful. Particularly egregious was his denunciation of his former mentor, Husserl, which led to Husserl's dismissal from teaching. That he withdrew his dedication to Husserl in Being and Time in later editions speaks ill of the man's treatment of one who had done nothing but good for him. For many, including Arendt, Marty could do no wrong. Such was the cult of hero-worship surrounding him, despite his stated philosophical detestation of same. We can't blame him for the existence of this cult, but its influence was important in his 'rehabilitation' after the war. There exists no record of him rejecting their efforts on his behalf, which I suppose is understandable. Sartre is not worthy of mention in the same paragraph as Arendt as a person, nor as a philosopher with her and Heidegger.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Heidegger's treatment of some Jewish academic colleagues during the Nazi era. was opportunistic, ambitious and shameful. Particularly egregious was his denunciation of his former mentor, Husserl, which led to Husserl's dismissal from teaching. That he withdrew his dedication to Husserl in Being and Time in later editions speaks ill of the man's treatment of one who had done nothing but good for him. For many, including Arendt, Marty could do no wrong. Such was the cult of hero-worship surrounding him, despite his stated philosophical detestation of same. We cant blame him for the existence of this cult, but its influence was important in his 'rehabilitation' after the war. There exists no record of him rejecting their efforts on his behalf, which I suppose is understandable. Sartre is unworthy of mention in the same paragraph as Arendt as a person, nor as a philosopher with her and Heidegger.

I am with you brother - Being and Time is also unreadable

 

[skilts]

I am with you brother - Being and Time is also unreadable

I can see how you would come to this conclusion about the book, but I think of it as a magnificent failure in pursuit of an impossible task. That he never finished the work is a reliable indication of this.

 

[evo]

He would've finished it if he had more time.

 

[blackcat]

Heidegger's treatment of some Jewish academic colleagues during the Nazi era was opportunistic, ambitious and shameful. Particularly egregious was his denunciation of his former mentor, Husserl, which led to Husserl's dismissal from teaching. That he withdrew his dedication to Husserl in Being and Time in later editions speaks ill of the man's treatment of one who had done nothing but good for him. For many, including Arendt, Marty could do no wrong. Such was the cult of hero-worship surrounding him, despite his stated philosophical detestation of same. We cant blame him for the existence of this cult, but its influence was important in his 'rehabilitation' after the war. There exists no record of him rejecting their efforts on his behalf, which I suppose is understandable. Sartre is not worthy of mention in the same paragraph as Arendt as a person, nor as a philosopher with her and Heidegger.

HA was his student and lover no? makes it more indictable

 

[skilts]

HA was his student and lover no? makes it more indictable

The most unlikely scenarios play out when there's rooting involved.

 

[skilts]

The most unlikely scenarios play out when there's rooting involved.

Edit: Or so I've heard.

 

[Pie eyed]

I've often hoped that the term "the Left" meant the arseholes like Tony Abbott and Korman, who returned to the shitholes they emigrated from.

When ya fukin off Tony you reprehensible dog?

 

[Rotayjay]

If anything, hard-core rightists deserve more ridicule than leftists.

Contemporary issue in modern society? 'Look to the past for a solution!' Experts and academics think your policy is garbage? 'Pfft, what do they know?' Global warming? 'It was really cold yesterday, so surely it's all alarmism!' Gay people want to get married? 'How dare they wish for something that makes them happy. That will have a huge effect on straight people!' House prices in Sydney have reached a million dollars and the upcoming generation will be locked out of the market? 'Get a better job.'

The far right is populated by those who are, as Penny Wong once said, comfortable with unfairness. Life is not fair, but some conservatives believe that a large section of society should be continually punished for finishing in the last half of the race.

 

[JackOutback]

If anything, hard-core rightists deserve more ridicule than leftists.

Contemporary issue in modern society? 'Look to the past for a solution!' Experts and academics think your policy is garbage? 'Pfft, what do they know?' Global warming? 'It was really cold yesterday, so surely it's all alarmism!' Gay people want to get married? 'How dare they wish for something that makes them happy. That will have a huge effect on straight people!' House prices in Sydney have reached a million dollars and the upcoming generation will be locked out of the market? 'Get a better job.'

The far right is populated by those who are, as Penny Wong once said, comfortable with unfairness. Life is not fair, but some conservatives believe that a large section of society should be continually punished for finishing in the last half of the race.

The worst you can say about extreme 'lefties' is they are naive and care too much. The worst you can say about the extreme right is they are real campaigners.

 

[deltablues]

If anything, hard-core rightists deserve more ridicule than leftists.

Contemporary issue in modern society? 'Look to the past for a solution!' Experts and academics think your policy is garbage? 'Pfft, what do they know?' Global warming? 'It was really cold yesterday, so surely it's all alarmism!' Gay people want to get married? 'How dare they wish for something that makes them happy. That will have a huge effect on straight people!' House prices in Sydney have reached a million dollars and the upcoming generation will be locked out of the market? 'Get a better job.'

The far right is populated by those who are, as Penny Wong once said, comfortable with unfairness. Life is not fair, but some conservatives believe that a large section of society should be continually punished for finishing in the last half of the race.

Penny Wong would certainly have an objective view about the Right. Oh, wait...

 

[chelseacarlton]

Penny Wong would certainly have an objective view about the Right. Oh, wait...

She's gay?
It's not that scary to say it.
It's not infectious.

 

[deltablues]

She's gay?
It's not that scary to say it.
It's not infectious.

Oh, you have an agenda. Cute. But I was talking about Penny Wong being on the Left - as was obvious from the context of my post. I am not interested in her (or anyone's) sexual preferences.

 

[Subutai]

 

[Maggie5]

Oh, you have an agenda. Cute. But I was talking about Penny Wong being on the Left - as was obvious from the context of my post. I am not interested in her (or anyone's) sexual preferences.

But I think the poster was saying a lot more than just Penny Wong. Shame you missed it and wanted to be cute.